ALMA finds turtles on the sun. :)

[Michael Mozina]

The ALMA microwave images of sunspots are impressive in terms of their resolution of the sun in microwave. They clearly show a sunspot on the surface of the photosphere and the whole chromosphere of the sun. They even show the weird angular shape of the sunspot. That's really cool.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/giant-turtle-s ... ion-712709

I'm sure they'll assert that these new high resolution microwave images of our sun will help them discover the heat source of the chromosphere.

It's astounding and discouraging that more than 100 years after Birkeland and his team experimented with various charged terellas in their laboratory experiments that astrophysicists are still "mystified' by the heat source of the upper solar atmosphere in the 21st century.

I am at least hopeful that higher resolution and faster cadence solar images will eventually wake them up as to the need for electrical current to explain the images, but at the moment they remain mystified by very *simple* processes in current carrying plasma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m58-CfVrsN4

[JouniJokela]

Yes,
And this Video is a really interesting and demonstrates perfectly that this really is the case; electricity.

Now, everything is fine, but one thing. There is no cable in the sun connected to planets which would maintain this current. And with this statement, I don't mean that this experiment is wrong. I mean that we should start to look for this "cable".

What are our options?

[Michael Mozina]

Yes,
And this Video is a really interesting and demonstrates perfectly that this really is the case; electricity.

Now, everything is fine, but one thing. There is no cable in the sun connected to planets which would maintain this current. And with this statement, I don't mean that this experiment is wrong. I mean that we should start to look for this "cable".

What are our options?

It's already been observed and verified.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/s ... dec_themis

The discoveries include giant magnetic ropes that connect Earth's upper atmosphere to the Sun and explosions in the outskirts of Earth's magnetic field.

What is a magnetic rope according to Hannes Alfven? From Cosmic Plasma:

"However, in cosmic plasmas the perhaps most important constriction mechanism is the electromagnetic attraction between parallel currents . A manifestation of this mechanism is the pinch effect, which was studied by Bennett long ago (1934), and has received much attention in connection with thermonuclear research . As we shall see, phenomena of this general type also exist on a cosmic scale, and lead to a bunching of currents and magnetic fields to filaments or `magnetic ropes' . This bunching is usually accompanied by an accumulation of matter, and it may explain the observational fact that cosmic matter exhibits an abundance of filamentary structures (II .4 .1) . This same mechanism may also evacuate the regions near the rope and produce regions of exceptionally low densities."

In other words, a "magnetic rope" is a "Bennett Pinch" in current carrying plasma. There is already documented evidence that the sun and the Earth are electrically connected through a current carrying plasma "cable".

FYI, that same magnetic rope feature is observed to connect the sun to other planets as well:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/mathematical-phys ... netic-rope

[JouniJokela]

Well, I agree with these "cables", but aren't they exactly the same cable's which are NOT visible in the youtube-link experiment of first post.

At least the Saturn-sun-Magnetic-rope (your last link.) is positioned exactly to the place where the sphere glows.

What is the direction of the electron flow? According to this;
http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

There is 400 000 Volt difference in just 50 km height. The Earth is Negative, and The sky is positive.
So (if I understand correct) these Electrons are coming with these cables.

But where are they going?
I don't see any cable, and where would it even lead?
-That's the question!
Back to sun? -surely not!
Yet, there must be something in planets, which absorbs Electrons.

[Michael Mozina]

Well, I agree with these "cables", but aren't they exactly the same cable's which are NOT visible in the youtube-link experiment of first post.

If you look closely, you'll see the wire the coming up through the stand. In the case of a magnetic rope, you have current flowing in both both directions, with ions moving one way, and electrons moving the other. The sun ends up being the ultimate power source for all natural planetary electrical activity.

At least the Saturn-sun-Magnetic-rope (your last link.) is positioned exactly to the place where the sphere glows.

The position of the connection isn't really all that important, since the rest of the circuitry will guide the particles to the poles.

What is the direction of the electron flow?

It depends on which electric solar model you're talking about, and which specific discharge processes that you're referring to.

Yet, there must be something in planets, which absorbs Electrons.

I'd say that the circuit can close in a variety of ways, but the Earth ends up being a resistor of sorts.

[JouniJokela]

Well. I have also this kind of observations about the "circuit"
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Ontario

This combined with the Feynman-lecture info makes me to think, that there actually isn't any closed circuit, as we have learned from Kirchoff's current law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff ... _.28KCL.29

Rather I believe, that the Matter is generally created in the sun, (H, He) But it's truly condensed only in planets.
The most of the matter in Space is Hydrogen-ions; H+ and Helium-Ions; He++
So i think their Electrons have flown to Earth, and have here created new matter. This way this matter-creation would be the end-stop of the Negative Electrons, and the excess Positive Ions are just left flying in the space.

But I must admit, I am a bit confused right now. I can't see that this kind of fusion could happen inside the Earth. I only see it possible to happen in true plasma; so Thermosphere at ~120 km height in space would be the place. But this can't explain the 400 000 Volt / 50 km difference on the Ground and atmosphere. As there is enough electrons, and thus the Matter should become neutral already there. -> No traces of currents in ground. But there is traces, forest rings, electric craters!

Or can it be explained? If heavier isotopes are created, and they start to fall to the ground with higher velocity than the electrons, this would cause a time differentation for the Charge, and thus also such an constant electron flow.

Anyhow, I am not quite satisfied with this answer;

I'd say that the circuit can close in a variety of ways

But I am not able to provide a completely solid answer, which would have convinced myself.

[seasmith]

Jouni wrote:

Rather I believe, that the Matter is generally created in the sun, (H, He) But it's truly condensed only in planets.
The most of the matter in Space is Hydrogen-ions; H+ and Helium-Ions; He++
...

I also believe that is a fairly accurate model, as most recently addressed here:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 24#p117224

But I must admit, I am a bit confused right now. I can't see that this kind of fusion could happen inside the Earth. I only see it possible to happen in true plasma; so Thermosphere at ~120 km height in space would be the place. But this can't explain the 400 000 Volt / 50 km difference on the Ground and atmosphere./i] As there is enough electrons, and thus the Matter should become neutral already there. -> No traces of currents in ground. But there is traces, forest rings, electric craters!

Yes, as MMozina indicates, there probably is a complete circuit between Earth and Sol, which in transistor terms would be "Source and Drain".
Earth however, as pointed out by Thornhill and many others is more than simply a "resister".
It is also, among other things, a Capacitor; and the charge from the sun is charging the capacitive layers of the atomo/iono/magneto etc spheres.

Here the gated 'current flow' becomes a version of Maxwell's displacement current, and we know that sometimes capacitor elements spark and sometimes they just leak back in to the electro-aetheric matrix.
[electrical engineers call it the environment].

[seasmith]

completing ∞circuits∞

“According to my thesis the thunderstorm is the consequence, and not the
cause, of the electric field. The electric field is the consequence of
another cause: thermionic emission.
All these phenomena, together
with many others, are in a chain of causes and effects between ...

[charge transform and diffusion]

M Csuzdi “Breakthrough in Energy”
http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... gyBook.pdf


That paragraph describes the previous post's Sun-induced charge flow even more completely, through and outward from the solenoidal core of the geosphere.
Csuzdi, a pioneer in the field, properly alludes to that function of transistor-Earth as a “thermionic emission”,
and draws an apt and easily understandable analogy with classic thermionic ‘tubes’.

(thankyou jimmcginn for the link to the link)

[seasmith]

~
Visual evidence for through-earth electric currents



Terrella Cubica
Birkeland-like auroral simulator at Aalto University, Finland

...Tests are under way at Aalto University. The experiment will be used to demonstrate basic phenomena encountered in planetary space plasmas such as the Lorentz force, the Debye length, the formation of ring currents or of upper atmosphere VIS-UV emissions.

http://space.aalto.fi/education_outreach.html

[seasmith]

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Michael Csuzdi's final work was:

Geopower Plant 1995

http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... ebPage.pdf

http://breakthroughinenergy.com/index.php?&pageid=5

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