Is the mainstream leery of gravitational wave claims?

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Is the mainstream leery of gravitational wave claims?

Post by Michael Mozina » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:37 am

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It seems rather odd to me that the supposed 'discovery" of gravitational waves wasn't awarded the Nobel Prize this year. In terms of physics, an actual "discovery" of gravity waves seems far more important than some theoretical predictions about topological phase transitions and topological phases of matter. What gives? Could the mainstream be having a confidence crisis as it relates to gravitational wave discovery claims?

Considering the fact that neither the supposed "discovery" paper, or the follow up paper enjoyed the benefit of having any visual confirmation, it's definitely an "iffy" sort of claim. However, the hundreds of authors involved in those papers claimed to have 5+ sigma confidence in their claims, putting it solidly into the "discovery" category.
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Re: Is the mainstream leary of gravitational wave claims?

Post by Zyxzevn » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:16 pm

I saw on reddit that the "discovery" was presented after the deadline for competing for the Nobel prize.
Maybe next year?
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Re: Is the mainstream leary of gravitational wave claims?

Post by Michael Mozina » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:01 pm

Zyxzevn wrote:I saw on reddit that the "discovery" was presented after the deadline for competing for the Nobel prize.
Maybe next year?
https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/physics/
February – Deadline for submission.The completed nomination forms must reach the Nobel Committee no later than 31 January of the following year. The Committee screens the nominations and selects the preliminary candidates. About 250–350 names are nominated as several nominators often submit the same name.
https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211
Gravitational Waves Detected 100 Years After Einstein's Prediction

News Release • February 11, 2016
Emphasis mine. It looks like you're right on the money. It seems as though the announcement came after the Jan 31st deadline.

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Re: Is the mainstream leary of gravitational wave claims?

Post by Keith Ness » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:12 am

Zyxzevn wrote:I saw on reddit that the "discovery" was presented after the deadline for competing for the Nobel prize.
Maybe next year?
Good catch. There're articles making it into my Google newsfeed saying it's a mystery.

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Re: Is the mainstream leary of gravitational wave claims?

Post by lamare » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:18 am

Michael Mozina wrote:
Zyxzevn wrote:I
https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211
Gravitational Waves Detected 100 Years After Einstein's Prediction

News Release • February 11, 2016
The gravitational waves were detected on September 14, 2015 at 5:51 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time (09:51 UTC) by both of the twin Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO) detectors, located in Livingston, Louisiana, and Hanford, Washington, USA. The LIGO Observatories are funded by the National Science Foundation (NSF), and were conceived, built, and are operated by Caltech and MIT. The discovery, accepted for publication in the journal Physical Review Letters, was made by the LIGO Scientific Collaboration (which includes the GEO Collaboration and the Australian Consortium for Interferometric Gravitational Astronomy) and the Virgo Collaboration using data from the two LIGO detectors.
It's rather strange that, considering Maxwell supposedly started out at the aether hypothesis, that main stream science has evolved from realism into a diverging theory, whereby there still is no connection between the EM fields and the gravitational, even though we know since the discovery of the wave-particle duality principle that particles ARE some kind of electromagnetic phenomena and therefore there can be no other fundamental forces of nature BUT the electromagnetic.

Interestingly, re-deriving Maxwell's equations from a basic fluid dynamics aether model shows that Maxwell's equations are inconsistent in their definition of the electric potential.

Correcting this flaw, yields a simple and elegant "theory of everything" wherein gravity G = grad E.

http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/ ... Everything

And since the electric field is found to be rotation free, if gravity waves exist as a second-order effect of the electric field, they must be longitudinal in nature...

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