Z Pinch Examined in Detail

[flyingcloud]

the twist causes the z-pinch

it's in the coil

rotation

unfortunately I have no evidence
sorry to interupt

[kell1990]

This may sound silly to you but why not query Don Scott himself? Would he not be able to explain in greater detail and understanding then the rest of us. I have emailed him several times over the years and he has graciously responded to every query. To me, that is very impressive because it seems like he would be very busy; yet he replied. Give it a shot. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Regards Everyone

Z-axis

This sounds like a very logical approach to me.

I have my own ideas about "Z-pinches" and "Bennett Pinches" but before I proceed further, I'd like to hear Dr. Scott's view on this. Who knows? We may be on the same page here;.

[Trickster]

This may sound silly to you but why not query Don Scott himself? Would he not be able to explain in greater detail and understanding then the rest of us. I have emailed him several times over the years and he has graciously responded to every query. To me, that is very impressive because it seems like he would be very busy; yet he replied. Give it a shot. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Regards Everyone

Z-axis

Thanks Z-axis. I appreciate your interest. I did contact Wal and requested Don as well thru thunderbolts. The email thing. Problem is they get tons of emails and stuff from lots of places. I do not know if they got it and or if it was of interest to them. I have changed my view on some of the stuff I sent them. I do not hold that the planetary solar system attracts anything. Mathis makes it clear that only repelling can be mechanical (non charge) so the Earth and Moon are repelling each other. Repelling is the inverse of attraction so the math mirrors the same end results. Jupiter fails to attract Mars and the whole inner planets as a unit ignore Jupiter. If attraction was the action, all the inner planets would be satellites of Jupiter as its strength is 3 earth masses at half the distance the earth is to the sun.

Jupiter is repelling and its distance from the sun is due to its charge, which can be deduced by the square of its ratio to the sun unit at 3 earth masses at the distance of 75 million km. Jupiter at 778.6 million km divided by 75 million km equals 10.3813. When squared (107.72) is the ratio and multiplied by 3 gives the number of earth masses for Jupiter (323.3). You can then know all the formative masses of all of the planets by the 1/18 principle.

I have also sent them previously my chronology solutions that uses cycle T=181/6 year orbits and cycle V=1001/34 as given in my web site. They do not understand chronology so my efforts at communication are seemingly in vain. If I had and hour with them, I am sure I could convince them of the solutions presented. Lots of great individuals are unaware of what is out there and they need reviewers to help them pick out the good stuff from all the rest. See http://chronologyone.blogspot.com if you think you can review if for them.

Presently I have written 4 articles. I would have sent them to Science, but I lack an institutional sponsor. The most important one right now is the one on Science using known false principles. At 4 pages it is short. However, it presents the reasons why false principles are used and organizational resistance in changing paradigms. If you want to help and be a reviewer that someone at Thunderbolts would listen to, I would be grateful. My previous contact was Amy who has left this world. Email me at conwayjames3@hotmail.com and I will send you the draft.

[jacmac]

QAfReb5wr3zafawu said:

* Must a Z pinch persist for the life of a star ?

I would say NO.

I do not see evidence of an ongoing Z Pinch (something in an hourglass shape perhaps) whereby current arrives from one direction, is pinched down, does work(powers the sun) then continues off in the opposite direction. AT LEAST NOT WITHIN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. I would defer to Celeste about the activity outside the solar system.

Also, I do not see the sun as one electrode IN A CIRCUIT, with the heliosphere as the other electrode. That would put one electrode(sun) totally within the other electrode(heliosphere); begging the question, how does the circuit get the current in to the sun in the first place without it coming from the second electrode, the heliosphere ?

Jack

[comingfrom]

I see stars as being focal points.
They draw in currents from their surroundings which is, in effect, a pinch.

And currents have flow both ways.
Either that, or there are incoming as well as outgoing currents, in all celestial bodies.
I don't think we can think of a solar system as a simple cathode and anode setup.

A picture showing both kinds of Z-Pinch.
Filamentry and Stellar.



The Sun's environment



Images from Wal Thornhill's website

[jacmac]

Comingfrom:

I see stars as being focal points.
They draw in currents from their surroundings which is, in effect, a pinch

I see it as the "drift current" Dr. Scott describes in THE ELECTRIC SKY, which results in a great concentration (focal point) of the plasma. But a "pinch" implies a continuation of current into and out of the pinch as shown in your first photo.
Jack

[willendure]

Has the polar double layer ever been detected for our sun? I know we have put satellites over the poles, did they pick up an accelerated jet of electrons or ions coming in at the poles?

[D_Archer]

Has the polar double layer ever been detected for our sun? I know we have put satellites over the poles, did they pick up an accelerated jet of electrons or ions coming in at the poles?

Not yet (as far as i know), it still too far away, a probe needs to actually fly through with a Langmuir probe.

Regards,
Daniel

[jacmac]

AS far as I know, Ulysses has been the only probe that had a high orbit angle to the suns equatorial plane. About 80 degrees. At the times it passed closest to the solar poles it was still quite far away from being directly over the poles(as best I can determine). And there is not much information about the "polar" passes I could find that is free.
Jack

[upriver]

From actually examining the local environment of the Heliosphere and our position in the galaxy, this is the plasma flow through the heliosphere from the local fluff cloud.

https://app.box.com/s/lf0ttitirc9p5mpedp6vhu0egw1achgt

https://app.box.com/s/vvdmk9deuui81t1vq80tl9043ow46gvs

[jacmac]

I have followed the EU story for almost seven years.
It makes sense to me.
The sun is electric.
There is a lot of evidence for the Z Pinch in space.
The plasma filaments hold their form for tremendous distances.
A major filament pinch, utilizing serious electromagnetic energy, might create a new star.(or other things)

However:
Within our solar system there is no pinch of a continuous Birkeland current. IMO.
Also, there is no continuous direct current that is the "discharge" we call the photosphere. IMO

Just as the Double layer and the Z Pinch are recognized as unique structures in plasma rich space, the PHOTOSPHERE/CHROMOSPHERE/CORONA/HELIOSPHERE is also a unique structure.

It is a self organizing electrical event, using the largest body around as an anchor in space, and condensing the plasma entering the heliosphere from the interstellar medium.
The 40 fold greater density of plasma outside the solar system than within supports this idea. IMO.

Jack

Ps. It is an electric version of SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION.

[comingfrom]

Here is a paper about the discovery of the pinch effect.

First discovered in a lightning rod,
so there are pinches in our solar system, even here on Earth.

THE DISCOVERY OF THE PINCH EFFECT

[jacmac]

Thanks Comingfrom. I have seen that pinched lightning rod photo.
My comment above was regarding a possible ongoing pinch that powers the sun.
Jack