Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Sparky » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:26 am

airman, thank you. Yes, I am on a steep learning curve and feel lost most of the time.
QM doesn't make sense, but it is said to work. I would prefer a physical cause, but what I want will only bias my ability and distract if QM has something to offer.

I feel the same way about MM's theories. He seems to have maths abilities,but some of his conclusions and theories are as mysterious and difficult for me to accept as QM.

I consider the MM cult as benign and rationalize it as just another silly belief of humans.
If I had a strong belief in QM, that would qualify, also... ;)
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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:30 pm

Sparky said
airman, thank you. Yes, I am on a steep learning curve and feel lost most of the time.
I answer another set of Sparky comments here.
Was the Great Pyramid an electric generator?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =60#p97230

And Sparky's reply.
Was the Great Pyramid an electric generator?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =75#p97263
http://milesmathis.com/pyramid.html

Why do I assume you are sincere? Miles' physics is an expansion of our classical physics, breaking open the mass variable. It makes perfectly good sense. Oh, and he does a wonderful job explaining just about all aspects of phyics too.

I'm not a cult member, (your favorite attack line). I decided to be a Miles proponent having witnessed many Mathis troll attacks, too many and too dishonest to be normal reactions.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Chromium6 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:10 pm

Sparky, please don't comment on this thread. We created the "Why Miles Mathis is wrong?" thread to let you post your feelings and suspicions about Mathis' work (and "followers") there . --Cr6
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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Postby LongtimeAirman » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:49 pm
Chr6,

You are shooting way too high! How can you make head or tail of that?

Superconductivity, explained mechanically by the charge field. 3pp.
http://milesmathis.com/conduct.html

I imagine that if the plumbing were built from neutrons, we'd see the minimum resistance to charge flow.

Or if the motion (thermal) is reduced enough, a greater throughput results, especially when aligned with the earth's emission field.

When we talk about superconductivity, we are thinking of electric flow without resistance. Ion and electron flow never stopping or slowing.

Btw, LTAM... interesting you mention neutrons and resistance in the charge field. The recent Cambridge superconductor breakthrough used Gadolinium. This makes me wonder what would happen if they used "funnel" shaped magnets, would they get more "charge" through at even a lower temp?

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 10&t=15131
Gadolinium

Gadolinium is a chemical element with symbol Gd and atomic number 64. It is a silvery-white, malleable and ductile rare-earth metal. It is found in nature only in combined (salt) form.
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Physical properties

Gadolinium is a silvery-white malleable and ductile rare-earth metal. It crystallizes in hexagonal, close-packed α- form at room temperature, but, when heated to temperatures above 1235 °C, it transforms into its β- form, which has a body-centered cubic structure.[1]

Gadolinium-157 has the highest thermal neutron capture cross-section among any stable nuclides: 259,000 barns. Only xenon-135 has a higher cross section, 2 million barns, but that isotope is unstable.[2]

Gadolinium is ferromagnetic at temperatures below 20 °C (68 °F)[3] and is strongly paramagnetic above this temperature. Gadolinium demonstrates a magnetocaloric effect whereby its temperature increases when it enters a magnetic field and decreases when it leaves the magnetic field. The temperature is lowered to (5 °C (41 °F)) for the gadolinium alloy Gd85Er15, and the effect is considerably stronger for the alloy Gd5(Si2Ge2), but at a much lower temperature (<85 K (−188.2 °C; −306.7 °F)).[4] A significant magnetocaloric effect is observed at higher temperatures, up to 300 K, in the Gd5(SixGe1-x)4 compounds.[5]

Individual gadolinium atoms have been isolated by encapsulating them into fullerene molecules and visualized with transmission electron microscope.[6] Individual Gd atoms and small Gd clusters have also been incorporated into carbon nanotubes.[7]

Gadolinium has the highest neutron cross-section among any stable nuclides: 61,000 barns for 155Gd and 259,000 barns for 157Gd. 157Gd has been used to target tumors in neutron therapy. This element is very effective for use with neutron radiography and in shielding of nuclear reactors. It is used as a secondary, emergency shut-down measure in some nuclear reactors, particularly of the CANDU type.[1] Gadolinium is also used in nuclear marine propulsion systems as a burnable poison.

Gadolinium also possesses unusual metallurgic properties, with as little as 1% of gadolinium improving the workability and resistance of iron, chromium, and related alloys to high temperatures and oxidation.

Gadolinium is paramagnetic at room temperature, with a ferromagnetic Curie point of 20 °C.[3] Paramagnetic ions, such as gadolinium, move differently within a magnetic field.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadolinium
This might be a hack but the slot layout may be like this?
(XE is 6 at the core-carousel)
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[Gd]
1 6
2 6
3 6
4 6
5 6
6 6
7 6
8 6
9 6
10 2
11 2
12 2
13 2
14 1
15 1
16 0
17 0
18 0
19 0
On the Windhexe: ''An engineer could not have invented this,'' Winsness says. ''As an engineer, you don't try anything that's theoretically impossible.''

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:35 pm

Chr6,
I made this Gadolinium ? starting from Europium, taken from, "Period Six of the Periodic Table".
http://milesmathis.com/haf.pdf
Changed from Europium, Atomic Number 63, From Period 6 Paper
Changed from Europium, Atomic Number 63, From Period 6 Paper
How would you number that?

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Chromium6 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:12 pm

LongtimeAirman wrote:Chr6,
I made this Gadolinium ? starting from Europium, taken from, "Period Six of the Periodic Table".
http://milesmathis.com/haf.pdf
Gadolinium2.gif
How would you number that?

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Thanks for that paper. That's a recent but important one that I forgot about.
I'm currently using this numbering system for my own mapping. Yep, that prior mapping for [Gd] will definitely need updating. I was trying to follow the rule of 9 for Xenon which doesn't work in the same way. I didn't apply the 5-stack for Lanthanides.

http://imgur.com/83wyqh1
Until now. We have seen that my theory of charge recycling allows us to explain everything
mechanically, and we will continue to see it here with Lanthanide contraction. The huge jump in radius
between Barium and Lanthanum and between Lutetium and Hafnium tells us something extraordinary
is happening. I have shown that it is explained by the different cores. The Lanthanides have the green
5-stack core, while the other elements of Period 6 are built from the cyan 6-stack core of Xenon. You
can immediately see why this would have a huge effect on charge recycling, but be careful—it may not
be the effect you think. Although Barium has 54 protons in the core and Lanthanum has only 45,
Barium has only two protons pulling in charge. Lanthanum has 12 protons pulling charge through,
including three at the poles and three on the inner axis. This latter fact is more important than the core
difference. The biggest core in the world isn't much use in channeling charge without 4th level protons
pulling charge in—as we see with the Noble Gasses. Xenon has a huge core, for all the good it does.
On the Windhexe: ''An engineer could not have invented this,'' Winsness says. ''As an engineer, you don't try anything that's theoretically impossible.''

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Chromium6 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:05 pm

I have a recent update to the Mathis Periodic Table at:
(there is a captcha to go through to get the file)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/nbprihugd ... _v004.xlsx

This is what I have for [Gd]:

SlotNumber AlphaType
1 5
2 5
3 5
4 5
5 5
6 5
7 5
8 5
9 5
10 2
11 3
12 2
13 3
14 2
15 3
16 2
17 0
18 2
19 0
On the Windhexe: ''An engineer could not have invented this,'' Winsness says. ''As an engineer, you don't try anything that's theoretically impossible.''

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by nick c » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:11 pm

Sparky,
Your last post on this thread has been removed.
There were no issues addressed, the post contained nothing but personal attacks.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:34 am

Oops, correction
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Gadolinium2.gif

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:20 pm

MM-Miles,
S-Sparky
A-Airman

Sparky wrote
MM: Until now. We have seen that my theory of charge recycling allows us to explain everything
S: Incompletely...

Me
A: Completely.

Sparky,
You've got it backwards. Miles explains everything in terms of real photons. That includes beta decays, parity violations, and charge bosons.
It is the Quantum Physics` Weak Force that relies on “necessary energy input in virtual state from the active vacuum”. A mysterious and unexplained vacuum energy source.

1.S. http://www.cheniere.org/references/brokensymmetry.htm
That is not this author's work; that is particle physics as justified by the award of two Nobel Prizes. It isn't even in the electrical engineering model, so no objection based on standard classical EM and electrical engineering concepts has any validity at all.
1.A. “so no objection based on standard classical EM and electrical engineering concepts has any validity at all”. Wow, nice so-called Nobel Prize winning “science” you got there. Since the theory borrows from the vacuum, it shouldn`t have been accepted in the first place. How could we think that if we don`t understand something we can simply attribute it to the vacuum?

2.S. That’s why a dipolar permanent magnet, with opposite magnetic charges on its ends locked in there by the material itself, continuously exhibits magnetic field in the space surrounding it (out to the ends of the universe, if the magnet has been around long enough). There is a continuous and steady stream of EM energy, extracted directly from the vacuum and integrated into observable magnetic field energy, pouring forth from the dipolarity of that magnet. At any external point in that stream, the steady flow will give a steady or "static" reading for the magnetic field and thus for the intensity of the flow at that point.
2.A. Through most all his physics papers, Miles explains how matter is comprised of real photons with mass (and radius), traveling and spinning at light speed, to deliver electric and magnetic fields. Photons with increased energy and number develop stacked spins that enable spinning ensembles of photons to become the various bosons. Bosons continually absorb and emit photons (recycle photons) from a photon rich space, the charge field. An electron is a photon with 2 stacked spins and a neutron has 4. Real photons with stacked spins can collide and sometimes reverse their outer spins to appear as bosons which “spontaneously decay”. A neutron with a small emission field can become a proton with a much larger emission field through a simple collision.

3.S. Every EM field and its energy, and every EM potential and its energy, are thus continuous outflows of real photons and real EM energy from the source charges. Every observable joule of EM energy in the universe is and has been extracted directly from the seething virtual state vacuum by its associated source charges.
3.A. I almost thought we were saying the same thing there at first. Miles has simply replaced “extracted directly from the seething virtual state vacuum by its associated source charges” with “due to the recycling charge field”.

http://milesmathis.com/weak2.html
The Infinite Weakness of the Theory of Weak Interaction. A broad dismissal of weak and electroweak theory, and a simpler explanation of parity loss in beta decay. 33pp.
Abstract: I will begin by critiquing the Wikipedia pages on weak interaction, then move to some textbooks. I will show that the entire theory is a castle in the air. I will then replace the theory with my own theory: a strictly mechanical theory with no virtual particles or fields, no unassigned fields or terms, no borrowing of energy from the vacuum, and no mystifying math.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Lloyd » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:34 pm

As I’m getting ready to move out west, I have a little time to comment a bit.
_S1: Sparky (Jun30?): I have begun to reevaluate quantum mechanics. What does MM say about that area of study?
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/the-new-quantum-reality/
_L1: He explains that QM is based on the erroneous assumption that a mathematical point is equivalent to a physical point, when in reality a physical point is nothing. Photons and electrons are erroneously treated as points, whereas points don't exist. Photons and electrons must have radius and mass in order to exist in physical reality.
_S2: To some researchers, the experiments suggest that quantum objects are as definite as droplets,
_S3: and that they too are guided by pilot waves — in this case, fluid-like undulations in space and time.
_S4: physicists [] misinterpret [John Stewart Bell] as rendering hidden variables impossible. But Bell supported pilot-wave theory.
_S5: Couder and his colleagues placed a magnet at the center of their oil bath and observed a magnetic ferrofluid droplet. Like an electron occupying fixed energy levels around a nucleus, the bouncing droplet adopted a discrete set of stable orbits around the magnet, each characterized by a set energy level and angular momentum.
_S6: The “quantization” of these properties into discrete packets is usually understood as a defining feature of the quantum realm.
_L2: Photons are quantum objects and have definite radius and mass.
_L3: Waves require objects to do the waving. Streams of photons emitted outward from an object serve as guides for incoming photons which funnel down between emitted photons.
_L4: I don’t know if variables can be hidden or not and how it would apply to pilot wave theory.
_L5: Does the experiment prove that a magnetic field behaves the same as an electric field or vice versa?
_L6: Quantization refers to specific quantities. That’s true of photons; they exist with specific radii and masses.
_S7: Could we be deceiving ourselves by insisting that all phenomenon be physical as we understand it? :?
_S8: Sparky (Jul10): [] http://www.cheniere.org/references/brokensymmetry.htm
_S9: That's why a dipolar permanent magnet, with opposite magnetic charges on its ends locked in there by the material itself, continuously exhibits magnetic field in the space surrounding it (out to the ends of the universe, if the magnet has been around long enough).
_S10: There is a continuous and steady stream of EM energy, extracted directly from the vacuum and integrated into observable magnetic field energy, pouring forth from the dipolarity of that magnet.
_S11: At any external point in that stream, the steady flow will give a steady or "static" reading for the magnetic field and thus for the intensity of the flow at that point.
_L7: Anything that doesn’t have radius or mass is space (vacuum) or time. The physical seems to consist of matter, space and time.
_L8: I haven’t checked out the site.
_L9: A field is a field of matter objects, like a wave is a wave of matter objects. Since electric and magnetic fields don’t consist of normal matter, the only remaining candidates are photons.
_L10: Energy is a property of matter, not space or time. Energy requires matter for transmission, i.e. photons.
_L11: The flow is a flow of photons.
_S12: Every EM field and its energy, and every EM potential and its energy, are thus continuous outflows of real photons and real EM energy from the source charges.
_S13: Every observable joule of EM energy in the universe is and has been extracted directly from the seething virtual state vacuum by its associated source charges.
_L12: And photons are real objects, having radius and mass.
_L13: Energy is extracted from photons (or subphotons) within the “vacuum” (vacuum: a space entirely devoid of matter). Photons may consist of subphotons in an infinite series of decreasing radius and mass.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:36 am

Hi Lloyd, I hope the move isn`t too stressful.

_L3: Waves require objects to do the waving. Streams of photons emitted outward from an object serve as guides for incoming photons which funnel down between emitted photons.

“Waves require objects to do the waving”, Yes. It should be noted that you use that statement to refer to the physical basis of waves, as opposed to a QM wave function, which collapses to reality the moment we test it. But this is also in the context of the “pilot wave”, and I thought the pilot wave theory was a mechanism to reintroduce “particles” (as opposed to points) back into the QM fold, to force QM into a more deterministic direction. I would also add that Miles created (as far as I know) a new definition of wave generation, the spinning photon.

“Streams of photons emitted outward from an object serve as guides for incoming photons which funnel down between emitted photons”. Lloyd, I must disagree. I imagine that as the emission field of photons from a given object expands outward, initially there is bumping and interaction, and perhaps clumps of photons may form while pushing bosons and small aggregates of higher matter along. Further away from the source there is diminishing emission self-interference and the main objects “in the way” of our emission photons are photons within nearby matter or photons from other emission fields.

How can photons funnel down between emitted photons? There is no funnel there, just as there is no funnel between raindrops. It is just the function of inter-penetrability of emission fields. There is interaction, but I cannot see how one emission field can turn another.

How do photons aggregate around matter when it seems to me that all matter is subject to photon "evaporation" at the speed of light? Gravity holds even photons together. And the matter present within our galaxy is the manifest of a general equilibrium of the total amount of photons present.

Forgive me. This just happens to segue into the subject of Miles` latest paper. http://milesmathis.com/updates.html, http://milesmathis.com/80.pdf, 7/10/2014. 80% of Light Missing? No, just more proof of my charge field.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Sparky » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:43 am

MM: No, just more proof of my charge field.
Proof of a charge field or his charge field?

With all of the strange, if not absurd, explanations of his charge field, the critical mind should become suspicious of everything MM comes up with. But, do all minds? Obviously not. It is surprising to see otherwise intelligent people getting caught up in the power of "knowing for sure", being taught by one who "knows."
And there is no way of ‎Delicately addressing this with the truth. So, soak yourselves in something soothing, and repeat MM's mantra, "I understand and know, and can prove it". :D

You will be partially correct.... ;)
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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Lloyd » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:55 pm

Sparky, quit misrepresenting us. We don't agree with everything MM says. You keep repeating such claims as though you're an expert on what we say. It's highly tiresome to hear your false claims etc.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by LongtimeAirman » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:33 pm

Sparky wrote:
MM: No, just more proof of my charge field.
Proof of a charge field or his charge field?

With all of the strange, if not absurd, explanations of his charge field, the critical mind should become suspicious of everything MM comes up with. But, do all minds? Obviously not. It is surprising to see otherwise intelligent people getting caught up in the power of "knowing for sure", being taught by one who "knows."
And there is no way of ‎Delicately addressing this with the truth. So, soak yourselves in something soothing, and repeat MM's mantra, "I understand and know, and can prove it". :D

You will be partially correct.... ;)
Sparky,

”Proof of a charge field or his charge field?” How many charge field theories are you aware of? This question is more about you than “his charge field”. Why does his work evoke such irrationality from you? You constantly accuse us of being deluded, know-it-all cult members who refuse to listen to reason, but it is you who latch onto unexplained free energy sensationalism. Your own critical-mind is clearly superior to ours.

We are studying a paradigm changing theory that appears to make more sense than the competition. If you do not wish to discuss it, then don’t.

Thank you Lloyd, spoken with grace.

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Re: Miles Mathis and his Charge Field

Post by Lloyd » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:03 pm

Sparky, in this post http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/v ... 688#p97592 I made relevant comments on July 12 on some of your previous comments. Had you responded directly to those comments, some useful discussion might have occurred. But, instead, you went off-topic with irrelevant complaints about our supposed irrationality etc. If you're really interested in this thread, why don't you comment on my above post? Like doesn't it make more sense to attribute properties like energy to matter, which has radius and mass, instead of to vacuum or space, which has no dimensions, except between matter objects? If energy were a property of vacuum, it would have no specific location, because vacuum/space has no specific location except relative to matter. And, since all of space contains photons, but not all of space contains larger units of matter, doesn't it make sense to attribute energy to photons, rather than to vacuum?

Some of my disagreements with MM are regarding gravity, photon motion and the cold poles of Mercury, which I discussed a few months ago on a thread called Lloyd Blog or something like that. I don't think universal expansion of matter and space makes sense at all as the explanation of gravity, which MM originally proposed. I don't think it makes sense that photons would travel in a single wave motion as MM says, such as where a photon would spin around a point on its surface. But I think it would be simple to fix that problem with a double wave motion by paired photons spinning around each other like a two-bladed propeller as they travel through space in a straight line. And it doesn't make sense that photons would cool Mercury's poles, but it makes sense that ions from cold space would cool them.

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