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Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by bboyer » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:14 pm

http://www.wbabin.net/science/ - scroll down to the pdf's prefixed with "tombe" (tombexx.pdf).

This is probably a good one to start with: http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe.pdf

Frederick David Tombe,
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom,
Formerly a Physics Teacher at
College of Technology Belfast, and
Royal Belfast Academical Institution

LOTS of references, links, and analysis to original work such as Maxwell's.
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by bboyer » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:39 pm

The London, Edinburgh and Dublin
Philosphical Magazine
and
Journal of Science

[Fourth Series]

March 1861

XXV. On Physical Lines of Force. By J.C. Maxwell, Professor of Natural Philosophy in King's College, London.
Part I. The Theory of Molecular Vortices applied to Magnetic Phenomena.
Part II. The Theory of Molecular Vortices applied to Electrical Currents.
Part III. The Theory of Molecular Vortices applied to Statical Electricity.
Part IV. The Theory of Molecular Vortices applied to the Action of Magnetism on Polarized LIght.

http://vacuum-physics.com/Maxwell/maxwell_oplf.pdf
J.C. Maxwell wrote:Thus if we strew iron filings on paper near a magnet, each filing will be magnetized by induction, and the consecutive filings will unite by their opposite poles, so as to form fibres, and these fibres will indicate the direction of the lines of force. The beautiful illustration of the presence of magnetic force afforded by this experiment, naturally tends to make us think of the lines of force as something real, and as indicating something more than the mere resultant of two forces, whose seat of action is at a distance, and which do not exist there at all until a magnet is placed in that part of the field. We are dissatisfied with the explanation founded on the hypothesis of attractive and repellent forces directed towards the magnetic poles, even though we may have satisfied ourselves that the phenomenon is in strict accordance with that hypothesis, and we cannot help thinking that in every place where we find these lines of force, some physical state or action must exist in sufficient energy to produce the actual phenomena.

My object in this paper is to clear the way for speculation in this direction, by investigating the mechanical results of certain states of tension and motion in a medium, and comparing these with the observed phenomena of magnetism and electricity. By pointing out the mechanical consequences of such hypotheses, I hope to be of some use to those who consider the phenomena as due to the action of a medium, but are in doubt as to the relation of this hypothesis to the experimental laws already established, which have generally been expressed in the language of other hypotheses.
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by bboyer » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:01 pm

Would, or could, this be comparable to Wal's postulated sea of neutrinos?

The Double Helix Theory of the Magnetic Field
(An Interpretation of Maxwell’s 1861 Paper ‘On Physical Lines of Force’)
Frederick David Tombe,
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom,
Formerly a Physics Teacher at
College of Technology Belfast, and
Royal Belfast Academical Institution

Abstract. Maxwell’s 1861 paper ‘On Physical Lines of Force’ is interpreted. An
improvement is proposed that involves replacing his molecular vortices with
rotating electron-positron dipoles. These dipoles will each comprise of an electron
and a positron undergoing a mutual orbit. Electromagnetism is then explained in
terms of an electric sea in which magnetic lines of force are physically comprised of
helical springs created out of rotating electron-positron dipoles. The electronpositron
dipoles are bonded together in a double helix pattern and the resulting
helical springs form elliptical or circular solenoidal hoops around an electric
current circuit or a bar magnet.

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe.pdf
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by Solar » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:09 am

Well; well now. In the second .pdf you provided The Double Helix Theory of the Magnetic Field is an interesting link that I had some problems getting to come up. Eventually some of it came up via the Wayback machine:
More recently Dr. Menahem Simhony has proved beyond any doubt that a physical
medium of electrons and positrons pervades what we customarily accept to be the
vacuum, and his theory comes from within the discipline of solid state physics, and is
totally independent of the discipline of electromagnetism. You can read more about Dr.
Simhony’s theory in this web link,

Dr. Simhony has essentially shown that the equation E = mc² is an equation from
classical wave mechanics (see Appendix B) and that it applies to ion pair production in a
salt crystal, with E representing ion binding energy and c being equal to bulk wave
velocity. Simhony applies this equation to the 1932 Carl Anderson electron pair
production experiment and shows that the Gamma rays are merely liberating electrons
and positrons from their bonds and that as such, a background electron-positron medium
is a very real physical thing.
Long story short, and after some effort, it led to something called Epola Theory by Prof Menahem Simhony. I found a UK version of his website after awhile here:

The Electron-Positron Lattice Space

Prof. M. Simhony via his UK website has downloadable .pdf's of two of his books/pamphlets wherein he, like Harold Aspden, posits a Crystal Lattice structure electron-positron as an aspect of "vacuum space" (aether).
The 'vacuum medium', otherwise known as the 'aether', is a cold neutral ionized plasma that has such a perfect crystalline form that it cannot be 'seen' or 'felt' as a medium resisting force. In fact it responds so easily in its reaction to invasion by matter that it dissolves its structure and reforms that structure in the wake of matter that does move through it.
...
I will build my case by reference to the second of those articles in SCIENCE, namely that by Itano et al at p. 686 of Vol. 279, 30 January 1998.

That article begins by saying:
"Plasmas, the ionized states of matter, are usually hot and gaseous. However, a sufficiently cold or dense plasma can be liquid or solid. A one-component plasma (OCP) consists of a single charged species embedded in a uniform, neutralizing background charge. Aside from its intrinsic interest as a simple model of matter, the OCP may be a good model for some dense astrophysical plasmas, such as the crusts of neutron stars or the interiors of white dwarfs, where nuclei are embedded in a degenerate electron gas."
...
My model was an 'OCP', a one-component plasma...

... the aether, had a cubic structure owing to there being within it a crystal-like array of electric charges uniformly distributed in a background continuum of opposite charge, precisely that (OCP), one-component plasma, system mentioned in the article in SCIENCE, I was interested in how spherical sectors of that medium could spin, as with body Earth. How would the rotation affect its cubic structure? Keep in mind that, besides there being that cubic distribution of charge, each such element of charge describes a small orbit to ensure that it stays displaced from the position of minimal, but negative, energy potential and holds itself at a positive level of potential.- THE CRYSTALLINE VACUUM
In fact via "An Introduction to the EPOLA model" list Aspden in the reference section. Apparently the good Prof agrees.

Thank you Arc-us
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by junglelord » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:23 am

Well APM clearly states that light is a electron/positron pair.
:D

Maxwell stated the field is "mechanical".
It is a gyroscope effect.
This effect which is caused by the presence of an actual mechanical movement.
The field is the aether.
Aether is a RMF.
This RMF has a quantum spin of 2.
Hence the gyroscope effect.
In truth the field is all vorticies.
Iron filings are a bunch of tiny magnets, not the shape of the mechanical field.
The mechanical field is a gyroscope vortex of RMF.

Consider how this relates to this information.
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by bboyer » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:31 pm

Solar wrote: Thank you Arc-us
Welcome, Ty.

I, too, saw that reference to the Simhony material. Wish my intellect was up to rapid-assimilation of all the literature and references scattered amongst our fora (forums) here. Anyways, wonder if any of this would be of value to Wal ... of course, for that matter, he may already be well aware of it for the most part.
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Unread post by bboyer » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:36 pm

junglelord wrote: Consider how this relates to this information.
:D
QFT (Quoted For Truth). In looking at how all the multitude of theories differ and diverge from one another I think the primary focus should be on integration and any common ground that unifies and tends to bring them all together. Easier said than done, of course. :twisted: :ugeek:
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Unread post by seasmith » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:00 pm

If, as it appears, the course of this thread is to comprehend space, the dialogue is looking sort of Chicken-or-Eggish here.

In one box we have an electron-positron [transparent] crystalline matrix (space) serving as the medium for the transport of wave-like vibrations;
and in the other corner, an even more sublime aethereal matrix from which the [mass] charge carriers emerge AS electron/positron pairs or ions.
Those manifold transient observables: photons, phonons, neutrinos, magnets, etc.;
and their various observing modes: dipoles, spins, vorticies, fields, etc.
combine and evolve with and from each other so readily as to suggest that those observed moments and movements are indeed ‘transients’.
The geometry (cubic or whichever) of Space seems so natural as to be intrinsic; and the number (quanta) of its dimensions are expressable as near perfect mathematic ratios.
The wave and particle, as concepts, continue to be useful as scientific implements of discovery.

R. A. Schwaller [T.O.M.] suggests that ” Space is volume, in principle without form”, … “and does not appear without the determination into volume.”
Also that number and forms (geometry) are mental figurations, or Symbols [an arrested state] of a “Function” .
Less helpfully, he regards “Phi as the numerical symbol of the creative Function and of procreation, not as quantity.”

So, guess i fell off point again, but it’s fun trying to describe the “sea” we’re swimming in.
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Re: Electric Vortex Sea (Æther)

Unread post by Solar » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:31 pm

arc-us wrote: Anyways, wonder if any of this would be of value to Wal ... of course, for that matter, he may already be well aware of it for the most part.
Funny you should mention that. Holoscience quotes Aspden:
The resulting internal electric forces counterbalance compression due to gravity more or less uniformly throughout the star. As the gadfly British physicist, Dr. Harold Aspden, had the temerity to remark, knowing the volume of a hydrogen atom and the mass of the Sun 19th century physicists could have calculated this. He wrote, “..the mass density within a star is not concentrated into a non-uniform distribution by the force of gravitation. The importance of this to cosmological science cannot be overestimated. It bears upon that question of how a nuclear fusion reaction can be initiated to feed the star's energy output. It obliges one to consider the prospect of a cold fusion process or to look for other explanations for the stellar energy source.” Precisely! – the simplest of observations about the Sun supports the electric star model. By the way, the problem of short-lived radioactive isotopes is solved by the fact that stellar electric discharges manufacture all of the heavy elements seen in their spectra. A supernova is not required. - SETI – The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
Aspden affirms Don Scott
The Sun's Energy Source

Firstly, though the sun is almost wholly composed of hydrogen atoms which no doubt have the relevant equilibrium mix of protons and deuterons, I do not see ‘cold fusion' as a process that heats the sun. My book makes it clear that hot fusion requiring a core temperature of a hundred million degrees is out of the question. It is impossible because the sun is ionized which means that its gravitation, almost wholly that between protons which account for most of the sun's mass, must set up a positive electric charge in the sun that precludes its compaction. I was pleased, after my book was published, to be informed by the U.S. publishers of a book by Donald E. Scott entitled The Electric Sky bearing the caption A Challenge to the Myths of Modern Astronomy that I was not alone in having recognized this fact. - PHYSICS WITH ASPDEN
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