Spotless Sun

[seasmith]

Each of the spot's dark cores is about twice as wide as Earth. The active region is crackling with C-class solar flares and appears to pose a threat for even stronger M-flares.

http://spaceweather.com/glossary/flareclasses.html

[junglelord]

I go to NASA Space Weather everyday now for about 20 years.
Now that I am wiser, I sometimes laugh, sometimes, chuckle, at their "stories" but sometimes, I feel like pulling my hair out as todays "story" is about Magnificent magnetism....whichly is a plainly retarded title....unless you like bedtime stories....then hey its your fantasy.

MAGNIFICENT MAGNETISM: NASA spacecraft and amateur astronomers alike are monitoring a staggeringly-long filament of magnetism on the sun. It stretches more than a million kilometers around the sun's southeastern limb:

http://spaceweather.com/images2010/21fe ... t_anim.gif
Image credit: Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO)

As this movie shows, the filament has remained mostly stable for at least two days. However, similar filaments in the past have been known to collapse, and when they hit the surface of the sun--bang! A tremendous explosion called a "Hyder flare" results, sometimes rivaling the strongest flares produced by sunspots. Solar physicists have not yet learned to predict Hyder flares, so we cannot estimate the odds of one now. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

The REALITY would read as follows.

MAGNIFICENT BIRKLAND CURRENT: NASA spacecraft and amateur astronomers alike are monitoring a staggeringly-long filament of PLASMA on the sun. It stretches more than a million kilometers around the sun's southeastern limb:
http://spaceweather.com/images2010/21fe ... t_anim.gif

As this movie shows, the filament has remained mostly stable for at least two days. However, DOUBLE LAYER PLASMA filaments ARE known to Z PINCH when they hit the surface of the sun! A tremendous explosion called a "Hyder flare" results, sometimes rivaling the strongest flares produced by sunspots. Solar physicists have not yet learned to predict Hyder flares, BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT PLASMA PHYSICS RULE THE UNIVERSE, so we cannot estimate the odds of one now. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

[tolenio]

Hello,

Can anybody tell me where I can find a listing of known Hyder-flares of the sun by date and hopefully a listing of which of those ejected charged particles that were measured?

Thanks,
Tom


Thread "Hyder Solar Flares" from Electric Universe - Planetary Science merged here--- Moderator

[tolenio]

Hello,

I just found your post but had already asked the question in Planetary Science... I will ask here too if it is OK;

Does anybody know of a listing of Hyder flares of our sun by date, and hopefully data as to which of these ejected known charged particles?

I am not sure where to look for such compiled data, or if it is already all pulled together somewhere.

Thanks.

Tom

[jjohnson]

Tom: try asking your question of Joseph Gurman of NASA's Solar Data Analysis Center. If he can't help, ask if he knows of someone who might have these data available for download.

joseph.b.gunmore@nasa.gov

Tel 301 286 4767

[tolenio]

Hi,

Tried that email address but it has a permenent fatal error.

permanent fatal errors ----- <joseph.b.gunmore@nasa.gov>
(reason: 550 <joseph.b.gunmore@nasa.gov>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown)

Thanks. I will keep looking.

Later,
Tom

[junglelord]

The story about this huge Birkeland Current Tube continues at NASA Space Weather

GREAT FILAMENT, CONTINUED: For the seventh day in a row, an enormous magnetic filament is hanging suspended above the surface of the sun's southern hemisphere.

The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) has a great view.
http://spaceweather.com/images2010/23fe ... 5nbm1hjbk7

How long can it last?

Solar filaments are unpredictable. If this one collapses and hits the stellar surface, the impact could produce a powerful Hyder flare.
http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/4/1

Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

[keeha]

An update on the no longer spotless sun:
http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?vie ... &year=2010

GREAT FILAMENT: The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is tracking an enormous magnetic filament on the sun. It stretches more than one million kilometers from end to end,

From today (Feb 25, 2010): http://spaceweather.com/

OH, SNAP! The 'Great Magnetic Filament' on the sun that we've been tracking for the past week finally erupted yesterday.

[junglelord]

The massive Birkeland magnetic tube finally let go at the far end, with about an 1/8 falling into the sun.
This produced CMEs as usual, but no Massive Flare, as they were suspecting.

OH, SNAP! The 'Great Magnetic Filament' on the sun that we've been tracking for the past week finally erupted yesterday.



Click link for movie
http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/25feb ... ipol82mng0

Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) images bracket the eruption between 0719 UT and 1919 UT on Feb. 24th. The event did not produce a bright solar flare, as sometimes happens when filaments erupt, but there was a coronal mass ejection (CME). SOHO coronagraphs observed at least one and possibly as many as three clouds billowing away from the sun: movie.
http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/25feb ... ipol82mng0

If any of this material is heading for Earth--a big unknown!--it would arrive on Feb. 27th or 28th. Arctic sky watchers should be alert for auroras on those dates.
http://spaceweather.com/

Its a beautiful view of the effects that currents have on the sun as they organize the plasma into distinct structures.

The size of this particular tube was majestic to say the least, but imagine the size of the Birkeland tubes that extend from the sun to the earth....WOW! We live in a electrically connected way to the sun, there is no charge nullifacation, as they so erroneously teach. The idea that two plasma sphere's in a vacuum do not interact with each other electrically is retarded to say the least.

Plasma double layers, current tubes, plasma filiments, plasma in three characteristic modes and possiblly autogenous Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges as well, extreme and constant flow of charged ions of high speed, high energy photons, which are all indicitive of massive charge and potential differences throughout the cosmos.

Big Bright lights at the center of glaxies are not black holes....

[webolife]

I notice the plasmic stream is arcing into, and causing, that bright spot at the right end of the loop of material.

[webolife]

Can this topic be merged with the Spotless Sun thread?

Topic "Magnificent Magnetism!" merged with "Spotless Sun" - moderator

[Harry Costas]

G'day

Thank you for the information.

[keeha]

An illuminating older image of the sun at x-ray wavelength.
http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_in_X-Ray.png

This image shows the Sun as viewed by the Soft X-Ray Telescope (SXT) onboard the orbiting Yohkoh satellite. The bright, loop-like structures are hot (millions of degrees) plasma (electrically charged gas) confined by magnetic fields... An image of the sun in visible light would show sunspots at the feet of many of these loops. The halo of gas extending well beyond the sun is called the corona. The darker regions at the North and South poles of the Sun are coronal holes, where the magnetic field lines are open to space and allow particles to escape.

From the original post on this thread: "Among other sources, it is circulating today that the Sun has gone an entire calendar month without any sunspots."

An update: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/02/26/11362/?nc=1

[The K7RA Solar Update] If sunspots continue through Sunday (they will!), February will be the first calendar month since January 2007 with sunspots every day. Sunspot numbers for February 18-24 were 17, 23, 19, 17, 14, 31 and 40, with a mean of 23.

[junglelord]

Brand new Birkeland Current is visible on the sun.

The largest filament, which is curling over the sun's northeastern limb, stretches at least 50,000 km from end to end. SOHO has been monitoring the plasma-filled behemoth for more than three days: movie
http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/07mar ... muvh4j89j4

Pictures
http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/07mar ... 1nve68uip6

How long can this filament hold itself up?

If it collapses and hits the stellar surface, the impact could produce a powerful Hyder flare.
http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/4/1

We must have bugged them enough, they rarely call it "gas" anymore.
Congradulations NASA, welcome to the 21 century.


They also admit they have no idea what is the real mechanism, just guesses.
Admitting it is the first step in recovery.

Of late, the Hyder mechanism has come into question. Some people (notably Zirin) have questioned whether infall occurs, stating that the magnetic reconfiguration must always produce ejection. The respective roles of flares and CME's in solar active processes has also been hotly debated, and this has implications for the exact mechanism of Hyder flares. We certainly have enough observational evidence to show that Hyder flares can be associated with both CME's and energetic particle production. For the moment, the question of Hyder flare production mechanism appears unresolved, and will probably be sidelined until the more significant (and undoubtedly related) issue of CME - flare production mechanism is sorted out.

The bottom line is that at this stage in solar physics we do not really know what produces a flare nor what produces a CME. There are competing theories, but all tend to have deficiencies with respect to matching the observational evidence. We certainly believe that they all depend on the reconfiguration of magnetic fields as their primary energy source, but in the final analysis, we really only believe this because we can conceive of no other solar energy source of sufficient magnitude.
http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/4/1

[junglelord]

New Movie of the birkeland current tube.

For the 4th day in a row, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is tracking a dark magnetic filament curling over the sun's northeastern limb. Click on the image to launch a movie recorded by the observatory's extreme ultraviolet telescope:

http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/09mar ... 5ic32gkuv1

The massive, plasma-filled filament has been remarkably stable since SOHO first spotted it on March 5th. However, filaments like this have been known to collapse. If this one does and hits the stellar surface, the impact could produce a powerful Hyder flare. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

I find Birkeland Currents to be implicit behaviour for a EU Z Pinch star, they on the other hand find it remarkable.