Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
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Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
"The image also contains several mysterious X-ray filaments, some of which may be huge magnetic structures interacting with streams of energetic electrons..."
Breakthrough!
"...produced by rapidly spinning neutron stars."
Aww
http://www.physorg.com/news181933944.html
Breakthrough!
"...produced by rapidly spinning neutron stars."
Aww
http://www.physorg.com/news181933944.html
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
Whats even more mysterious is how that "black hole" is so freaking bright.....

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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
Yeah, damned inconsiderate those black holes. Don't they read the peer reviewed literature!Whats even more mysterious is how that "black hole" is so freaking bright
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
Yeah, damned inconsiderate those black holes. Don't they read the peer reviewed literature!
Not dumb, just very rebellious.Again and again Alfvén reiterated the point: the underlying assumptions of cosmologists today “are developed with the most sophisticated mathematical methods and it is only the plasma itself which does not ‘understand’ how beautiful the theories are and absolutely refuses to obey them”.
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
Wow, the number of contradictions in that article were staggering. I just couldn't read that and not comment on how incongruous that 'description' was.
Almost reminds me of reading medieval treatises on medical conditions. Why, that poor old black hole has caught the Vapors and has lost it's appetite! It needs a good purge, some blood-letting or leeches, and a good poultice to put it back into sorts!
Mike H.
Almost reminds me of reading medieval treatises on medical conditions. Why, that poor old black hole has caught the Vapors and has lost it's appetite! It needs a good purge, some blood-letting or leeches, and a good poultice to put it back into sorts!
Mike H.
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
So right, All of the Above. Why is it that Black Holes always seem to need a "fuel source" in order to operate the way it is claimed? Don't they have enough stuff inside already? Do they starve if there isn't enough local fuel?
On a serious note, anyone want to take a stab at demystifying the black hole phenomena that lead to the inferences that we believe are not correct? What do we have to work with? Stars which seem to orbit very closely around a massive object (but which apparently do not undergo tidal forces strong enough to rip them apart, despite what must be an extremely steep gravitational gradient of the supposed mass is correct); radiation alleged to be coming from some sort of an unseen disk feeding matter into the unseen event horizon; evidence in many galaxies of highly collimated polar jets of matter being eject at extremely high velocities, seen in many radio images, often slowing into plumes of an erratic (or filamentary) nature; many descriptions of the signatures of "hot gas" and strong outward pressure from the conditions near, but outside the black hole; and so on. It should not be difficult to explain these things from other events that would be related to an extremely large current pinch around the center of the galaxy. Questions which might be posed include, why doesn't the black hole suck in the dark matter surrounding it just as it is alleged to do with the normal matter, especially since it is claimed that there is a lot more dark matter than regular matter and that most of it, for another unsubstantiated reason, is all bunched up around the center of a galaxy? You'd think that by now the ol' dark matter fuel tank would be hovering around empty. Why are the observed huge magnetic fields not linked or never discussed with the always-accompanying electric currents which generate them? [Schaum's Outline on Electromagnetics, p.135," A static magnetic field can originate from either a constant current or a permanent magnet." "In static fields the curl of H was found to be pointwise equal to the current density Jc...the subscript c has been added to emphasize that moving charges - electrons, photons, or ions -compose the current." This is basic and explains the intrinsic relationship between the presence of a magnetic field and its cause, although I was not aware that photons are considered charge carriers. If you think about light, though, a light wave is composed of nothing but an electric field and an orthogonal magnetic field, so maybe whatever a photon is, which no one satisfactorily has yet explained in detail, maybe it is a charge carrier in order to generate the magnetic field. It is certainly moving!
What else - chime in here and see if we can articulate the alternate view in some more detail. We just need a clean physical interpretation using well known existing physical and electrodynamic laws to explain why these events are unfolding around the center of our and other galaxies. Not the hard math; that's not our job in coming up with good conceptual explanations in counterpoint to what we feel are inadequate and inappropriate explanations from the standard model. Channel our anger/amusement at the lame prose from those who should be more curious, into a better description of what the more likely reality is.
Jim
On a serious note, anyone want to take a stab at demystifying the black hole phenomena that lead to the inferences that we believe are not correct? What do we have to work with? Stars which seem to orbit very closely around a massive object (but which apparently do not undergo tidal forces strong enough to rip them apart, despite what must be an extremely steep gravitational gradient of the supposed mass is correct); radiation alleged to be coming from some sort of an unseen disk feeding matter into the unseen event horizon; evidence in many galaxies of highly collimated polar jets of matter being eject at extremely high velocities, seen in many radio images, often slowing into plumes of an erratic (or filamentary) nature; many descriptions of the signatures of "hot gas" and strong outward pressure from the conditions near, but outside the black hole; and so on. It should not be difficult to explain these things from other events that would be related to an extremely large current pinch around the center of the galaxy. Questions which might be posed include, why doesn't the black hole suck in the dark matter surrounding it just as it is alleged to do with the normal matter, especially since it is claimed that there is a lot more dark matter than regular matter and that most of it, for another unsubstantiated reason, is all bunched up around the center of a galaxy? You'd think that by now the ol' dark matter fuel tank would be hovering around empty. Why are the observed huge magnetic fields not linked or never discussed with the always-accompanying electric currents which generate them? [Schaum's Outline on Electromagnetics, p.135," A static magnetic field can originate from either a constant current or a permanent magnet." "In static fields the curl of H was found to be pointwise equal to the current density Jc...the subscript c has been added to emphasize that moving charges - electrons, photons, or ions -compose the current." This is basic and explains the intrinsic relationship between the presence of a magnetic field and its cause, although I was not aware that photons are considered charge carriers. If you think about light, though, a light wave is composed of nothing but an electric field and an orthogonal magnetic field, so maybe whatever a photon is, which no one satisfactorily has yet explained in detail, maybe it is a charge carrier in order to generate the magnetic field. It is certainly moving!
What else - chime in here and see if we can articulate the alternate view in some more detail. We just need a clean physical interpretation using well known existing physical and electrodynamic laws to explain why these events are unfolding around the center of our and other galaxies. Not the hard math; that's not our job in coming up with good conceptual explanations in counterpoint to what we feel are inadequate and inappropriate explanations from the standard model. Channel our anger/amusement at the lame prose from those who should be more curious, into a better description of what the more likely reality is.
Jim
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
For reference, some EU literature relating to black holes:
Wal Thornhill:
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=tyybhrr8]Black Holes Tear Logic Apart[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q]The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=qwk0u6cc]The Madness of Black Holes[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news/chandra_vs.htm]Chandra vs Chandra[/url2]
S. J. Crothers:
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news/img/DPS%20talk.pdf]The Schwarzschild solution and its implications for gravitational waves[/url2]
Forum threads:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... p?f=3&t=35]Black Holes[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... a44a854e99]Black Hole Caught Zapping Galaxy Into Existence[/url2]
TPODs:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... ckhole.htm]A Flickering Black Hole[/url2]?
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... lkyway.htm]Electric Motor of the Milky Way[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... asmoid.htm]Milky Way Plasma focus Plasmoid[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... galaxy.htm]Plasma Galaxies[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... kholes.htm]Two Black Holes[/url2]?
Wal Thornhill:
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=tyybhrr8]Black Holes Tear Logic Apart[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q]The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=qwk0u6cc]The Madness of Black Holes[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news/chandra_vs.htm]Chandra vs Chandra[/url2]
S. J. Crothers:
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news/img/DPS%20talk.pdf]The Schwarzschild solution and its implications for gravitational waves[/url2]
Forum threads:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... p?f=3&t=35]Black Holes[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... a44a854e99]Black Hole Caught Zapping Galaxy Into Existence[/url2]
TPODs:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... ckhole.htm]A Flickering Black Hole[/url2]?
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... lkyway.htm]Electric Motor of the Milky Way[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... asmoid.htm]Milky Way Plasma focus Plasmoid[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... galaxy.htm]Plasma Galaxies[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... kholes.htm]Two Black Holes[/url2]?
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Re: Mysterious X-ray filaments, huge magnetic structures
To be added to the above list, a superb essay by Thomas Wilson in two TPOD installments:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... 7tape1.htm]Lightning, Sticky Tape, and Black Hole Observations - Part 1[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... htning.htm] Lightning, Sticky Tape, and Black Hole Observations - Part 2[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... 7tape1.htm]Lightning, Sticky Tape, and Black Hole Observations - Part 1[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... htning.htm] Lightning, Sticky Tape, and Black Hole Observations - Part 2[/url2]
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