Evidence that there is no hope, Jan 4th's APOD

[seanoz]

My ohh my, can there ever be hope?

Of all the work EU theorists are doing, comets are one of the most basic and simplified ways that an EU persepective can be integrated and drawn upon to modify current erroneous theories.

But then Jan 4th's APOD shows that there is always a regressive and poor explanation that flys in the face of evidence that refutes the current theories - provided by EU theorists, clearly and regularly - like Don Scott's talk at the Goddard Space Center 16th March 2009.

I won't attempt to outline the errors in the post, but if you feel a bit masochistic take a look here:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100104.html

Sean.

[jjohnson]

Yes this is a fun one, isn't it? Let's see, it loses (they use those long snow-poking meter sticks for accuracy, you know, every 76-year fly-by) 6m off the surface each encounter, and it's 15,000m across, so let's see, it would take 15,000 / (2x 6m) or 1250 passes to lose its entire diameter, and at 76 years between passes that's a useful life from now of 95,000 years. Kiss that beggar a long goodbye! And less than 100,000 years ago it was twice as big, wouldn't you guess. They make this seem so easy.

I wonder why the Shoemaker-Levy comet was not described as "calving" as it broke apart under the influence of gravity and Jupiter's early spring that year?

To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, "for every astronomy problem with a good EU solution, there's a mainstream physics solution that is neat, plausible and wrong."

[davesmith_au]

For those interested in Electric Comets, keep your eye on the Thunderblogs. The EC is one of the best stacks of evidence in support of the EU...

Cheers, Dave.

[earls]

Hope lives!

http://www.physorg.com/news181983028.html

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRR

[mharratsc]

Wait for the paper they release that explains the magnetic properties of black holes...

I really wanna see how they show the positive and negative poles (with gratuitous 'magnetic field lines') of their 'collapsed matter'.


Mike H.

[jjohnson]

Follow the magnetic fields, map the electric current activity and understand what's lighting up things except astronomer's minds.

Exercise: If a Black Hole is a singularity (thinking inside the math box here) and electromagnetic radiation cannot escape Its Powerful Clutches, then it seems logical, Spock, that electromagnetic fields and gravity fields also cannot escape. Nothing can then spiral in around (imaginary helper) field lines or geodesics, be they magnetic field lines, gravity field lines or electric field lines. A black Hole should therefore exhibit no attractions, no charge, no lightning, no Hawking radiation, nothing, and be so mathematically small that even if it could emit anything, it would not be detectable. Since it is not detectable, then astronomers will not be able to detect a Black Hole at the center of our galaxy nor anywhere else in the universe, is my prediction.

There. That wasn't so hard.

[earls]

Just one small clarification: The blackhole is a singularity of the parent (universal) gravitational field ("spacetime), so it's gravity field = black hole not black hole = gravity field. Gravity doesn't have to "escape" the black hole, because it's causing it.

I'm just using their contorted (circular) logic. But yes, I absolutely agree with your sentiments. There are no "black holes" as defined.

[seanoz]

For those interested in Electric Comets, keep your eye on the Thunderblogs. The EC is one of the best stacks of evidence in support of the EU...

Cheers, Dave.

Sure thing Dave, I read EVERY TPOD and I especially love the EC editions, they really are the first step to revealing the EU perspective, the answer lies there.

Sean.

[jjohnson]

Here is Jeremy Dunning-Davies' latest exposition on science and scientists' overlooking interactions in what is a plasma universe governed primarily by electrodynamic interactions.

http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.4187

Jim

[seanoz]

Ok, I have had enough, this is not an error of judgment, a lack of insight a misguided ignorance, this is an outright SCAM, this is a real conspiracy of collusion to hide and ignore facts to perpetuate a mystery, making them complicit in a LIE.

If you can perpetuate a lie and say it takes money to solve the problems that the mystery presents you have a complete monopoly on public money!

Anyway, rant over, take a look at today's http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100107.html APOD, and note this statement:

....the tail extends to the right of the more familiar bar and wing. Likely stripped from the galaxy by gravitational tides, the tail contains mostly gas, dust, and newly formed stars.

What the f%*k is a gravitational tide? has anyone ever measured one? A tide might be an effect of gravity, but gravity as a tide??? And newly formed stars are obviously the consequence of a massive birkland current of such vast size yes?

Sean.

[junglelord]

Ok, I have had enough, this is not an error of judgment, a lack of insight a misguided ignorance, this is an outright SCAM, this is a real conspiracy of collusion to hide and ignore facts to perpetuate a mystery, making them complicit in a LIE.

If you can perpetuate a lie and say it takes money to solve the problems that the mystery presents you have a complete monopoly on public money!

Anyway, rant over, take a look at today's http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100107.html APOD, and note this statement:

....the tail extends to the right of the more familiar bar and wing. Likely stripped from the galaxy by gravitational tides, the tail contains mostly gas, dust, and newly formed stars.

What the f%*k is a gravitational tide? has anyone ever measured one? A tide might be an effect of gravity, but gravity as a tide??? And newly formed stars are obviously the consequence of a massive birkland current of such vast size yes?

Sean.

Way to go Sean.


Public "Scientist" are funded, which is a political process, which causes Religion of Science....the free thinker is unpaid, self funded. Or he is grabbed up by the Industrial Military Complex and compartamentalized....which may be not much better then then the public scientist.

The truth is not going to be taught.
I will keep saying this, till it sinks in.
It will never be taught, for a long time to come.
It is a paradigm shift of immense implications, both financial and political...in the end the only real truth is that which you can learn from your minds eye, as all sages have done. The universe never lies. It is 99% plasma and hydrogen...time to get with the program from the outside looking in via the EU.

To rise above "public education" which was created to brainwash you to be a servant, is your first goal. Nothing your taught is the truth, only half truths at best. Research on the net is valid (like the work of the EU team), but not accepted ( as is often seen in so called Phd web sites that claim to be scientificly minded that refuse ANY EU talk), which is the best identification of that which is true, that what they do not accept and so aggressivly oppose....its a photographic negitive they sell us at best, its up to you to develop the picture from the negitive. The mental landscape of reality is going to reveal itself if you practice whole brain, coherent, standing wave, states of consciouness. I have been doing this daily for 20 years. I do this during reading and study as well as playing drums and just meditation. I invite you to build standing waves in your consciouness. PS, headphones required.

this first one is for standing wave, alpha states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPif7KiG ... re=related

Be sure to try Theta and Delta and Gamma states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPif7KiG ... re=related

This state of peace and coherent standing brain waves, will allow you to ignore the "debate" with these Phd sites, that are really a front to keep the lie alive. Know the truth and it will set you free. The lie is clearly intended to dumb us down. Just spread the truth, do not debate the lie or the lier on his own terms and his turf. Rather spread the word and the seed will sprout in those who are fertile...That is the secret to move mountains and to create forest that can be seen from the trees....

Meanwhile the "dirty snowball", thermo-nuclear oven, gravity driven, dark matter and dark energy camp, standard model - particle theory - story tellers, can wallow in their own dispair. A sick man with a twisted mind, politically driven to his religious theory of unicorns...the mad scientist indeed...a truly dark matter. Harry Potter was not written any better. Its quite the tale they weave with their dark matter knitting needles. Home spun fantasy of the finest kind, truly the classical man drowning in his own classical mess. Bruce Lee defined their kind when he set the martial arts world on its head....the stylized death of the kata was a trap to make you think you could defend yourself....till Bruce kicked you in the head and said that Martial Arts are alive, not stylized death repetitive motions of pretend fairy tale land.

The EU is the Bruce Lee of Cosmology.


If you got half a mind and any sensibility left, like I was when i still believed in "black holes" of bright light at the center of spiral galaxie pictures, (how brain washed is that?_) when on Nov 30th of 2006, on Coast to Coast radioshow, I heard the EU theory for the first time, then you, like myself will have the EU theory hit you so hard, it will Z/Theta Pinch your gravity wave ass so fast it will make your head spin....into the blackhole of unconsciouness.

When you awaken, your world view will have faded away and the plasma team will assist you in your recovery.


I suggest the daily picture from Thunderbolts team, its perfect medicine for a sick mind. Thats if you can pull it from your politically funded ass long enough to get some fresh air and some fresh ideas.

[MattEU]

chest.off.get.

Can I join in?

i agree with what you are saying but i dont think i can wait or live long enough for that change to happen slowly. we need to start really pushing the EU Theory.

Just had my sites/links purged from wikidpedia by one person because it is non biased, non political knowledge web site for "(fringe 'Electric Universe' site spammed a number of articles)". I know its meant to be fact based or something like that but how can you question anything if you are starting from fresh? I mean the Slave Trade was accepted as the norm but some fringe people started to complain.... Galileo Galilei etc

Galileo has been called the "father of modern observational astronomy,"[6] the "father of modern physics,"[7] the "father of science,"[7] and "the Father of Modern Science."[8] Stephen Hawking says, "Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science."
wikipedia quote on Galileo Galilei

Wisdom such as this about Flint, which is a slightly common material, is accepted as a fact...


paramoudra (pot stones) and flint circles found on the beach below Beeston Bump, Norfolk, England

"The exact mode of formation of flint is not yet clear but it is thought that it occurs as a result of chemical changes in compressed sedimentary rock formations, during the process of diagenesis. One hypothesis is that a gelatinous material fills cavities in the sediment, such as holes bored by crustaceans or molluscs and that this becomes silicified. This theory certainly explains the complex shapes of flint nodules that are found."
Wikidpedia quote on flint

Well, that theory certainly explains these complex shapes. Move along now, nothing to see or think about.

rant.off.chest.

(edit) lol, not quite finished just found out he got rid of this link to this site about "Il Widna (the ear) - sound mirror - Maghtab, Malta" !!!
(→External links: dl...the others are personal websites and I'm dubious about them also) (undo)
At least he does not have a grudge against anything to do with the electric universe

[seanoz]

junglelord,

Thanks so much for a great post, I appreciate the YouTube links, that is a great help, I think I actually have had an inherent way of thinking like that all along, but thanks for those I will pursue that in a more formalised way to be sure I maintain my thinking at it's peak.

I pride myself on being what I call (my coinage) a Zeigeista - Or zeitgeist analast, meaning I watch very closely the total mindset in cultures (mostly the Western ones of course) around the world, you know? analyzing what is considered forward thinking, what is the present time problems, what are the present pleasures, and the view on their history etc. and how it is often distorted to fit their religious and scientific views.

Your points on the truth never being taught etc. are what I term inversion, like your reference to them providing a negative, the 'masters' or intellectual elite, who are mostly in the service of the money elite are always attempting to ensure the individual is kept down, because they know all too well that powerful individuals are dangerous to little cabals. There is a great article that most of you guys really need to read, it is something that I found long ago, and have been meaning to raise it with someone like yourself who is an EU proponent, and this is an ideal time. It's called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars - here: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/si ... t_wars.htm - while I am not under any assumptions they know what they are dealing with, the interesting thing with that is how they have introduced electrical aspects or concepts into these methods of control in that 'paper' - difficult to know how authentic that item is, but it shows that there is a very subtle and powerful campaign on Earth that has caused countless deaths and suffering simply because of these types of psy-ops.

And don't worry, I do read all TPODs (every day) and am reviewing the past ones that came before I learned of EU, it's been about 3 years since I learned of EU and have studied the Saturn theories etc. the next thing I have to study is David Talbot's 'Remembering the Ed of the World'.

As I mentioned the reason I come to post these here, (I read here all the time but don't often converse) is because I love the rational answers I get from you guys as to ways to deal with this insanity and all the MS misguided thinking.

It's also great to have a laugh, I don't bother trolling their places I like to come here and enjoy a real glimpse at truth and reality, seen through peoples eyes that can appreciate the true breadth of the cosmos and nature.

Sean.