ULX - Great Image

[neilwilkes]

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegal ... _1557.html

This is a wonderful image - despite the by-now obligatory claim it is a "black hole".
It reminds me of the type of painful light emitted by Arc & Spot welding kit.
NGC1399 (The "parent" of this) seems to be an active galaxy (emitting jets at the poles) and I was wondering exactly what this object really is - it ain't no BH!

[mharratsc]

How about "a stellar z-pinch" of less power than a quasar, but more than a typical sun?

Actually, it's entirely possible that a 'globular cluster' galaxy might just be a z-pinch pulling in matter to form a galactic core. Current might be increasing on that bugger, and who knows what it might turn into? A barred spiral?

Obviously we're not getting good resolution to see if it looks like Tony Peratt's galaxy formation simulation, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see a pair of bright spots pinching together and spinning, if we could just get the resolution more fine.

Every discovery like this one plays whack-a-mole with the Mainstream hypothesis, but fits right into the grain of EU.


Mike H.

[seanoz]

I still cannot fathom how they contradict their whole concept with lines like this:

Their exact nature has remained a mystery, but one suggestion is that some ULXs are black holes with masses between about a hundred and a thousands times that of the Sun.

How does a black hole, that cannot be detected - their assertion - have a mass if we can easily detect and measure light/mass? It is so asinine, damn it this is not the dark ages - it's worse!

Sean.

[jjohnson]

Here is a wider field of view:

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2010/ngc1399

and the view in the x-ray band is linked in the small image to the right.

There's also a link from this Chandra site to an older group of photo-pairs, of which one is 1399. It is in blue-to-white in X ray, and gray to white in visual. The gray scale image shows two distinct blobs, Mike. Currents? Anybody's guess, if you ask me. This is fairly old and not as well resolved as a lot of today's pictures.

I haven't found an ultraviolet image yet of this particular galaxy, but haven't looked that deep, either. Galaxies can look astoundingly different depending on the wavelengths being imaged, as everyone has certainly figured out by now. Look at the Hydra galaxy images if you haven't run across this kind of information. What you see in radio is not quite (often nowhere close) to what our eyes can see with the best telescopes, and X-ray and UV offer their own perspectives as well. If it is real matter, no matter its temperature, it radiates something.

Jim

[neilwilkes]

I still cannot fathom how they contradict their whole concept with lines like this:

Their exact nature has remained a mystery, but one suggestion is that some ULXs are black holes with masses between about a hundred and a thousands times that of the Sun.

How does a black hole, that cannot be detected - their assertion - have a mass if we can easily detect and measure light/mass? It is so asinine, damn it this is not the dark ages - it's worse!

Sean.

I know, Sean, I know.
I was originally "taught" in school that a Black Hole is something where the pull of gravity is supposed to be so powerful that nothing can escape it, not even light.
We know this is not true, so not going into it again here.

All I know for sure is that the standard model has to be wrong, and the EU hypothesis is the most credible I have read to date. It's certainly much more credible than Dark Matter, or Dark Energy. If either of these really exist then all astronomy & cosmology would be pointless as you'd never see more than 5% of everything in the universe.
But as neither one of those exist outside of mathematical models anyway, we're probably okay to continue.

Wonder what the next "astounding surprise" will be. We're almost getting them on a daily basis nowadays