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Still no dark matter.

Post by willendure » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:58 am

World’s Most Sensitive Dark Matter Detector Completes Search (and finds none).

http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2016/07/21/wo ... es-search/

What do you call imaginary dark matter with no legs?

Still no dark matter.

What do you call imaginary dark matter with no legs having sex with other dark matter?

Still no <moderator edit> dark matter.
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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by Michael Mozina » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:21 am

Ah, I see you beat me to it. I cited the same information about the LUX results today. I just added it to their *growing list* of evidence that demonstrates their horrific case of confirmation bias.

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Post by Michael Mozina » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:28 am

My favorite quote from the article:
“We worked hard and stayed vigilant over more than a year and a half to keep the detector running in optimal conditions and maximize useful data time,” said Simon Fiorucci, a physicist at Berkeley Lab and Science Coordination Manager for the experiment. “The result is unambiguous data we can be proud of and a timely result in this very competitive field—even if it is not the positive detection we were all hoping for.”
LUX results are a methodical and unambiguous *failed test* of "dark matter" theory, but the results are negative, therefore the "failed test" does not matter to them in any way shape or form. They're 'proud' of their achievement, but that achievement and work apparently means absolutely nothing to anyone. LCDM theory is not a form of "science", it's an unfalsifiable statement of faith. It's a dark matter cult.

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by willendure » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:30 am

Michael Mozina wrote:LCDM theory is not a form of "science", it's an unfalsifiable statement of faith. It's a dark matter cult.
Yes, you have to wonder just how far down this path we need to go before we give up and pursue the alternatives. I do believe that revolution will come.

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Post by Michael Mozina » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:34 am

willendure wrote:
Michael Mozina wrote:LCDM theory is not a form of "science", it's an unfalsifiable statement of faith. It's a dark matter cult.
Yes, you have to wonder just how far down this path we need to go before we give up and pursue the alternatives. I do believe that revolution will come.
Oh, it will definitely happen sooner or later, but one has to wonder "when" that might be.

I just happened to look over at ISF this morning, and I noticed that Maartenn100 had started a thread on the same topic over there. The mods got all uptight and moved the whole thread over to one that focuses on the *individual* so that they don't have to deal with the *topic* itself. That need to blame the messenger seems to still run very deep in mainstream circles. It's basically their last line of defense, and the only way they can stay on the denial-go-round while every single "test" of their claim bites the dust. Evidently they expect Maartenn100 to provide them with mathematical models, yet their own mathematical models have all bitten the dust in every lab test ever performed! Hypocrites.

Keep in mind that this is just *one* of *many* such failures in the dark matter snipe hunt that is LCDM theory. They can't even "test" various metaphysical aspects of their claims, and the few "tests" that they can do all falsify their claims! They can't accept falsification, so away they go blaming the messenger.

If Koberlein and Brigman represent the mainstream's "professional" understanding of EU theory, it's unlikely they'll ever abandon the dark ages of astronomy in their lifetimes. They're utterly, willfully and entirely clueless about the empirical physical alternatives to their theories and they misrepresent them publicly to boot.

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by JeffreyW » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:16 am

These new limits on dark matter detection will allow scientists to eliminate many potential models for dark matter particles, offering critical guidance for the next generation of dark matter experiments.
So they are phrasing it as limits on dark matter detection, and as offering guidance for how much bigger and clearly more expensive the next experiments will be. Wow. A complete absence of evidence justifies building larger, more expensive experiments!

Someone should tell them dark matter was never necessary. Galaxies do not rotate like solar systems, they rotate like the one on the right. Galaxies rotate like galaxies. I guess its the backdrop of acceptance of the nebular hypothesis. Everything spins just like a solar system, clearly this is not true what so ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GNPvYdvZAQ

The outer and inner bands rotate at close to the same velocity. This meaning star systems do not circle AROUND the galaxy like the Earth/Sun, we shoot through the center and in and out of the arms at various random intervals. The solar system's rotation around the galaxy is not elliptical or even circular or even stable. It is chaotic.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by Michael Mozina » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:58 am

JeffreyW wrote:
These new limits on dark matter detection will allow scientists to eliminate many potential models for dark matter particles, offering critical guidance for the next generation of dark matter experiments.
So they are phrasing it as limits on dark matter detection, and as offering guidance for how much bigger and clearly more expensive the next experiments will be. Wow. A complete absence of evidence justifies building larger, more expensive experiments!

Someone should tell them dark matter was never necessary. Galaxies do not rotate like solar systems, they rotate like the one on the right. Galaxies rotate like galaxies. I guess its the backdrop of acceptance of the nebular hypothesis. Everything spins just like a solar system, clearly this is not true what so ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GNPvYdvZAQ

The outer and inner bands rotate at close to the same velocity. This meaning star systems do not circle AROUND the galaxy like the Earth/Sun, we shoot through the center and in and out of the arms at various random intervals. The solar system's rotation around the galaxy is not elliptical or even circular or even stable. It is chaotic.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =3&t=15850

Shortly after I got involved in EU/PC theory, and I began debating it's merits online, the 2006 landmark cluster collision paper on "dark matter" came out. In the *most* arrogant and *unscientific of manners*, they claimed to have found "proof" (yes they actually used that term) of "dark matter". In reality, all they found "proof" of is the fact that their stellar and other baryonic mass estimates were not worth the paper they were printed on in 2006. Every dark matter experiment on Earth to date has confirmed that fact too, but more importantly every single stellar study since 2006 *demonstrates* it! Even more damning for the mainstream, they found more mass in the form of *million* degree plasma which forms a huge "halo" around every galaxy. In that million degree plasma cloud which surrounds every galaxy, they found more baryonic mass than they have ever found in the history of humanity prior to 2012.

The mainstream quite literally has it's collective heads buried in the sand and deep underground. They simply refuse to acknowledge any failed "prediction", or "test" of their claims. It's the ultimate dark snipe hunt too because the models and energy states can change at will and there are an infinite number of options to choose from. They *never* have to come to terms with their lack of empirical justification if they don't want to.

The mainstream is essentially stuck between a rock and a hard spot with respect to nucleosynthesis predictions, and expansion predictions. They can't deviate from the amount of 'magical/dark/invisible' matter vs. the normal stuff by even 10-20 percent without botching/kludging the entire rest of their theory. The only "kind" of matter that can possibly band-aid their theory together is magical "dark" stuff which cannot, and *must* not interact with light, and has to be "cold"/slow/massive, yada, yada, yada.

They can't even acknowledge those *myriad* of mass estimation problems in that 2006 study without destroying their entire theory. They therefore will not budge even a few percentage points of magic matter based upon their numerous mass estimation errors, because they cannot budge an inch without destroying their whole argument.

LCDM is the single most *ridiculous* metaphysical theory in the history of physics. It's 95 percent metaphysical magic, and about 5 percent "pseudoscience" according to the author of MHD theory. :(

That's pretty much a 100 percent *failure* to embrace empirical laboratory physics. Even worse, the mainstream's fear of the application of circuit theory as it applies to plasma in space is *palpable* on the internet. Some of the so called "professionals" even flat out *lie* about EU theory on their blogs simply to keep others living in the dark ages with them. :(

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by Michael Mozina » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:17 am

If astrophysics departments spent even 1/2 of their dark matter snipe hunt money on demonstrated, lab *tested* empirical physics, just imagine how fast our understanding of solar atmospheric physics, spaceweather forecasting, and space *travel* would change?

Simply recreating the whole *range* of experiments that Birkeland *and his team* did 100 years ago with modern equipment would change everything that we think we know about solar physics, and change the way that we look at space forever.

The mainstream simply lives in pure fear of empirical physics, just like every other purveyor of metaphysical nonsense that has ever peddled pseudoscience. Empirical physics always triumphs over dark superstitious nonsense, and it will eventually triumph in the field of astronomy as well. Unfortunately the unethical mass marketing of supernatural LCDM dogma continues unabated, and the mainstream continues to suffer from a horrific case of confirmation bias.

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by willendure » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:14 am

Dark matter is supposedly affected by gravity (but nothing else). But in order to explain galactic rotation, it needs to be distributed in a halo around the outside of the galaxy. There is no gravitational explanation of how such a halo would maintain its position and shape.

This allows me to rule out the last remaining way, gravity, in which dark matter interacts with normal matter as even possible. Therefore dark matter does not interact at all with ordinary matter - that is, it does not exist.

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by Michael Mozina » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:05 am

willendure wrote:Dark matter is supposedly affected by gravity (but nothing else). But in order to explain galactic rotation, it needs to be distributed in a halo around the outside of the galaxy. There is no gravitational explanation of how such a halo would maintain its position and shape.

This allows me to rule out the last remaining way, gravity, in which dark matter interacts with normal matter as even possible. Therefore dark matter does not interact at all with ordinary matter - that is, it does not exist.
Oh, but they found their "missing mass" halo in 2012 in the from of a million degree plasma. Now they've figured out that it rotates like the rest of the galaxy too. :)

http://spaceref.com/astronomy/the-spin- ... -halo.html

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by willendure » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:30 am

Michael Mozina wrote:
willendure wrote:Dark matter is supposedly affected by gravity (but nothing else). But in order to explain galactic rotation, it needs to be distributed in a halo around the outside of the galaxy. There is no gravitational explanation of how such a halo would maintain its position and shape.

This allows me to rule out the last remaining way, gravity, in which dark matter interacts with normal matter as even possible. Therefore dark matter does not interact at all with ordinary matter - that is, it does not exist.
Oh, but they found their "missing mass" halo in 2012 in the from of a million degree plasma. Now they've figured out that it rotates like the rest of the galaxy too. :)

http://spaceref.com/astronomy/the-spin- ... -halo.html
"This flies in the face of expectations," says Edmund Hodges-Kluck, assistant research scientist.

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Re: Still no dark matter.

Post by willendure » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:31 am

Michael Mozina wrote: Oh, but they found their "missing mass" halo in 2012 in the from of a million degree plasma. Now they've figured out that it rotates like the rest of the galaxy too. :)
I'm not sure how it can be 'hot' given that it only interacts with ordinary matter gravitationally - how the hell do we measure its heat in that case?

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