EU explanations of astronomical observations

[Eutrophicated1]

How is the EU theory being used to explain or predict large scale astronomical observations, like the globular clusters just outside our Milky Way? I can get a sense of how the geometry of spiral galaxies follows really large scale Birkeland Currents; and yet spherical globs of 10,000 stars don't seem to fit into the double layer theory. Moreover, it would seem that large astronomical scale EU explanations should be a priority. I know its a huge set of tasks; has a group been formed to begin to address it? And can the safire project be used to formulate experiments about it?

Thanks.

[jacmac]

I agree with the question.
My general impression of the EU theory is that the "Z" pinch of a Birkeland current is a cause of the coming together of charged plasma to form larger bodies in space, and that the most energetic of these events form stars. This process is also said to maintain a star in its ongoing operation.
I think the local evidence of our solar system and the " spherical globs of 10,000 stars" seem to suggest a different mechanism for star maintenance. Perhaps a large body that has accumulated sufficient charge acts as an antenna( Eric Dollard ) in its local environment and collects ( drift currents described by Dr. Scott) all the matter, charged and otherwise, available to it and maintains itself as a sun.
Thus, high density and strong "pinches" would dominate the creation phase of stars, while lower density and less of a "pinch" could support the ongoing existence of stars. This might be what is happening with " spherical globs of 10,000 stars".
Jack

[nick c]

Plasma Clusters

[jacmac]

Plasma Cluster is a better name for NGC2808 than "spherical globs of 10,000 stars. But the EU explanation leaves a little to be desired; from the plasma cluster link(thanks Nick):

Galactic disks act like Faraday motors, while globular clusters (as has been suggested in the past) might be more like ball lightning than anything else.

"might be like ball llghtning"

Dr. Scott always talks about the sun being in a "circuit"; And correctly so. However, he also says this on page 114 of his book THE ELECTRIC SKY in the "QUESTIONS YET TO BE ANSWERED" section. "What is the exact circuit diagram? - Precisely what paths do the galactic currents take in the vicinity of the sun?"

He, Dr. Scott, describes the spherical geometry of the solar system where the plasma density is low at the outer limit(dark mode), and reaches glow mode at the corona, then reaches ARC MODE density at the photosphere. All good; I agree. That is why I became interested in(and addicted too) the EU in the first place.

But, that does not describe what we normally mean as a circuit. Current comes from point A into a device, does some work, then leaves to point B. The solar system does not look like what we normally call a circuit.

Charged particles, and neutrals no doubt, move in toward the sun from ALL angles of the sphere where at the corona all hell breaks out at a million or two degrees and below that where extreme order takes over(relative to the corona) at the photosphere, and below that is some kind of DEAD END where everything either is absorbed by the interior body of the sun ,in some way, or is turned back to become part of the photosphere, the corona, The solar wind, etc.

To the question above from Eutrophicated1;
The Cluster of suns does not seem to fit the "Z" pinch of a Birkeland current. Our sun does not seem to fit the"Z" pinch of a Birkeland current. I am trying to suggest that the circuit idea needs an addendum.

Jack

[Eutrophicated1]

The Cluster of suns does not seem to fit the "Z" pinch of a Birkeland current. Our sun does not seem to fit the"Z" pinch of a Birkeland current. I am trying to suggest that the circuit idea needs an addendum.
Jack

jacmac
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What I imagine is that our solar system was formed along a Birkeland Current axis that became the polar axis of the sun. The planets, and the sun were formed each in their own Z-pinch as the plasma dual layer currents ran a line through multiple nebular clouds of the Milky Way Spiral Arm. Each Z-pinch was formed by a 3-D double elipsoid of electro-magnetic fields. Perhaps the string of planetary masses then formed the disc we recognize today, as the much larger solar elipsoid forced them into their orbits (Right Hand Rule of electromagnetic fields). I also envision the solar disc as oriented in the Spiral Arm with the sun's axis pointed toward the inward spiral.

What I'm having trouble imagining is how Birkeland Currents form spherical stellar clusters. As you said, Jack, in a spherical cluster, where's the A to B to C circuit? What a marvelous universe we live in, eh?

Thanks

[Michael Mozina]

How is the EU theory being used to explain or predict large scale astronomical observations, like the globular clusters just outside our Milky Way? I can get a sense of how the geometry of spiral galaxies follows really large scale Birkeland Currents; and yet spherical globs of 10,000 stars don't seem to fit into the double layer theory. Moreover, it would seem that large astronomical scale EU explanations should be a priority. I know its a huge set of tasks; has a group been formed to begin to address it? And can the safire project be used to formulate experiments about it?

Thanks.

These are two observations that lend themselves very nicely to an EU/PC oriented explanation:

https://www.spacetelescope.org/news/heic1316/

The astronomers suggest that the orderly behaviour of the planetary nebulae could have been caused by the presence of strong magnetic fields as the bulge formed.

Note that requires the presence of a strong *electromagnetic* field, not just a magnetic one.

http://news.discovery.com/space/astrono ... 160412.htm

“This is not obviously expected based on our current understanding of cosmology. It’s a bizarre finding,” said collaborator Romeel Dave, of the University of the Western Cape, South Africa.

Needless to say, the researchers have plenty of hypotheses about what influenced the primordial universe to produce such a fine-tuned group of black holes. Perhaps powerful magnetic fields influenced primordial matter in such a way to seed the group of synchronized black holes.

The mainstream's desire to "dumb down" electromagnetic influences to pure "magnetic fields" is rather amusing, but it's another example of how and why their beliefs are falling apart with every new "discovery". They can't even imagine a universe with aligned *electromagnetic* fields.