Revising Ancient Chronology

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by daveycreatrix » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:34 pm

I would also remark that the awareness of precession, which can only come from a long time marking of star positions is clearly evident in Egyptian, Sumerian and earlier star watching traditions such as those at Nabta Playa. And are we to believe that the ancients ability to build pyramids to such precision (let alone the physical ability to do so), dates from 1400 BC alone?
I would suppose you believe this is down to ancient aliens too?
I would then ask where and how did these ancient aliens originate?
I am no scholar and make no pretence to be, and I admit a simple answer freely given is of more value to me than lots of references. Occam's razor does indeed apply, simple answers are best.
I would prefer your own simple answer rather than a reference to a scholar.

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by johnm33 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 am

Just looking through it seems no one has bothered to check out alan wilson / baram blacket / grant berklys books where he uses welsh to read the hieroglyphs and shows this to be the original language. I first heard welsh claimed as the language of the hieroglyphs back in the 80's.When I asked the only two native speakers I knew if they'd heard this both had been told that it was when they were kids apart from which they had zero interest. I'd also heard that some guy way back in the 1860s had done some translations but never found where they were so when i heard about these guys i bought all their books at one go, and wasn't dissapointed. Now I don't think they have everything right but i think they've created a new radically different chronology, for egypt, from original sources which provides a framework, that opens the way to understanding the past. Check out their story 'forensic historians' here
http://www.richplanet.net/

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:47 am

* Hi John. On the first page of this thread, I mentioned your suggestion regarding Wilson et al at this post: http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 904#p55698.
* Here's everywhere on this website that Alan Wilson has been mentioned: https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab& ... 24&bih=420

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by johnm33 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:06 pm

This is a list of dynasties and dates excluding duplicates and parallels taken from 'the trojan war of 650bc.' 1st-1993 2nd-1783 3rd-1579 4th-1506 5th-1387 6th-1238 18th-1074 22nd-976 25th-746 26th-655 27th-525 28th-404 29th-399 30th-380 31st-343 32nd-332 33rd-306
The 26th was also the 19th their various names horemheb-atreus, ramesses1-necho1-agamemnon-nephew of atreus, seti1-psamtech1-menelaus-brother of agamemnon, ramesses11-necho11-son of menelaus+helen who was either tutankhamuns wife/sister or more likely her daughter, who's sarcophagus is in the british museum [ankhhesenpa-aten].
The 32nd was also the 21st the begining of the macedonians in egypt.
I think this is the bare bones on which to build a correct chronology, this book is rammed with information, has over 400 pages only accessed 3 for above.

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by ifrean » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:30 pm

I wasnt aware of Fomenko et al, or more importantly i wasnt aware of their works, thanks for posting the links :ugeek:

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:21 pm

* Fomenko's theory is disproved by Cochrane in one of these 4 posts:
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=se ... 53&bih=368
* Astronomical retrocalculations show that history is correct back at least to several hundred years BC.

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by ifrean » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:39 am

Lloyd wrote:* Fomenko's theory is disproved by Cochrane in one of these 4 posts:
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=se ... 53&bih=368
* Astronomical retrocalculations show that history is correct back at least to several hundred years BC.
would be interested in reading it, could you provide a working link?

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by Lloyd » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:06 am

* The links work for me. But here's where Cochrane disproves Fomenko: http://www.maverickscience.com/eclipses.htm. There's also more info here: http://saturniancosmology.org/files/coc ... ations.txt.

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by GaryN » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:07 pm

More on ooparts. It seems that there are enough of these odd findings that some revision must be made, but how would a 'solid' baseline to work from be obtained if the dates have all been shifted by great EM forces, perhaps on numerous occasions?
300 Million Year Old Machinery Found in Russia
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http://www.earth-heal.com/index.php/new ... ussia.html

The Radiometric Dating Game
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/dating.html#The Radiometric Dating Game
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller

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Re: Revising Ancient Chronology

Unread post by kiwi » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:46 pm

Still a very confused Mainstream obviously ... but a step in the right direction? ... Velikovsky still equals "Macbeth" obviously, in spite of that do the "numbers" look familiar? ;)
The data supports a shortening of the Egyptian Predynastic; the period over which state formation occurred, to between 600 and 700 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ought.html

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