Electric Universe? Not for Everyone!

[junglelord]

I thought, when I joined a forum on electronics,
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/index.php
that the EU would be ovbioulsy accepted.
I posted a topic on wireless communications and the EU and Tesla.
I got banned in one day for making comments that had no validity.

You have been banned for the following reason:
opinions are not factual

Date the ban will be lifted: Never
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/index.php

So "my opinion" that the universe is electric has no basis in fact?????

Wow, thats amazing from a group of IEEE members.
Dispite the fact I showed them that the IEEE supports the EU, they banned me for EU talk.
How informative, from a group of IEEE Members.

When I was told the IEEE supports the EU, I figured that was good peer review....not for that group.
I guess they like black holes with their cheerios....who would have thunk....they reacted like the 12 year olds at the Pearl Drummers forum....like the EU was a plague, and I carried it...so lets keep the qurantine going, nice clean sterile brains....ready for more scrubbing and washing with dark matter....
How wonderful.

[junglelord]

I like the fact I got banned without refuting the evidence I presented.
Turning facts into opinions, how galaent.


My opinion is they don't have the facts.


Let the black holes of gravity pull them down by their own bootstraps... not wise enough to know electric currents when presented to them...and they are IEEE?
WILD!

[GaryN]

Has your post to their site been deleted, JL, I couldn't find it anywhere. That seems crazy to me that you would be banned, but just after I came upon the EU idea, I bought a vehicle from a lady whos father had been the head of electrical engineering for 20 years at UC Santa Barbara. I explained the EU idea to him, and asked what he thought, and could tell by his facial expression that he thought I was NUTS! No flexibility in his thinking, and to think that all the EE students of UC were being programmed to be just as rigid. The conspiracy theorist in me wonders, of course, if this is all intentional.

[junglelord]

I cannot enter the site, but there is no way they would leave the posts up.
I saw that they had members that were Tesla bashers. So I wondered if they had ever investigated anything?

I took one or two of my posts from here, like the History of Wireless with videos of Dollard showing "anomolies" on his videos with capacitive series, parallel inductance circuits, which anyone can test for themself, nothing out there.

I made a second post on how a capacitor really works, from the MIT video.
Again nothing that was not testable by anyone.

Thirdly I posted the over unit videos from the company in Ireland, on our thread here,
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... =10&t=2817
on a thread they had on over unity. It was then the trouble started.
Because up till then everyone had laughed at the overunity question,
like it was a big joke among them, and how stupid could people really be?
So I just posted the video evidence and asked them to explain the results.

I was told that overunity post are violations.
I asked how, I never started the thread, all I did was post the video link from youtube?
I was told my other threads had no validity!
Dollard makes no claims he does not prove with a meter.....the meter never lies.
Well just a little bit, ask Miles.
LOL>

They told me the universe was closed and overunity violated their man made laws.
I then told them the universe was Electric and made a post about that...well that was it.

Has your post to their site been deleted, JL, I couldn't find it anywhere. That seems crazy to me that you would be banned, but just after I came upon the EU idea, I bought a vehicle from a lady whos father had been the head of electrical engineering for 20 years at UC Santa Barbara. I explained the EU idea to him, and asked what he thought, and could tell by his facial expression that he thought I was NUTS! No flexibility in his thinking, and to think that all the EE students of UC were being programmed to be just as rigid. The conspiracy theorist in me wonders, of course, if this is all intentional.

I agree, totally brainwashed, closed minded, closed circuit, retards.
But anyway, they were all for Dark Matter and Dark Energy.
The fundamental concept that plasma was electrically charged into double layers and that no changing magnetic field makes itself, fell on deaf ears. I was attacked by a few ad homins, about me being smarter then NASA, then banned. No rebuttal.

They were only interested in the Heaviside Dumbdown, not interested in Maxwells original work or Tesla's work.

Remember group I watched the Entire MIT lecture series by Professor Lewin.
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-02E ... /index.htm
He went out of his way to NOT mention Tesla...He even made a class on the Tesla Egg and not ONCE, did he say it was a Tesla Egg, not once did he ever speak his name....reminds me of Harry Potter, "He Who Cannot Be Named"


Infact in the very first Lecture, Professor Lewin makes the claim, that dispite common sense (based on the first lectures material_) there is no electricity in space and it was neutral, controlled by gravity.....so in the first class they tell you to leave common sense behind.

Watch it for yourself
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-02E ... mbed01.htm
What holds our world together? - Electric Charges (Historical) - Polarization - Electric Force - Coulomb's Law and see the Professor speak beyond common sense, so his class can enter the brainwashing tour, where Tesla is not spoken of, his name is not uttered and the Heaviside dumbdown, is taught as Maxwells Theorm, hence the hard headed graduates who think they know it all....nothing could be further from the truth.

Tesla says the earth is no different then a hollow copper sphere, Professor Lewin tells us this sphere is only charged to 10 coulombs max....LOL, OMG, did you hear that?

They call it Distributed Intelligence...
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/courses/courses/index.htm
I call it a dumbdown.

[kevin]

Junglelord,
Imho there has been a continuous suppression about the true reality of this electrical universe, with an over-riding good intent involved , along with greed by corperations driven by greed.
Will they listen to this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkWOuaf- ... re#related
I think it's TIME they have to.
Kevin

[Orlando]

I agree, its like Socrates states in Platos Republic;
Imagine a man finds a ring in the sand and realizes that while on his finger if he turns it he becomes invisible.
The Just man will bury it for noone to find and the unjust will use it to take over the kingdom.

Truth is earned
The Journey the Appreciation
When given Freely
It is used Unjustly
For the beauty is lost in the translation
That is why only those with the pure of heart
can resonate with it, yet is in plain sight for all to see.
Behold the Beauty.

Never mind that crap, can I patent it?

Peace
Or

[mague]

Pure physics

When two wave meet there are two possible outcomes.

a) Constructive Interference
b) Destructive Interference

The modern human wants to belief that there is a discussion. There is no discussion in Wave physics.

[junglelord]

No kidding, I see it all as quite deceptive.
We do all our testing of the universe with EM radiation receivers.
Not with any gravity receivers.

Yet space has no electricity....it makes no sense...yet for some reason, its the only "acceptable" thought, that gravity controls space. Wonder how gravity mediates all that EM Radiation? Wonder how all the EM Radiation exists, yet no currents, just frozen in magnetic fields.....man I could pull my hair out sometimes.

The world and people that control it, are very peculiar.
I thought people with a degree in electronics would get it.


Apparently not!

[Corpuscles]

JL ( D)

Even on here................... for someone not roughly equivalent to your intellect and MOST likely nowhere near your reserve of retained knowledge....

You can come accross as arrogant.

Sometimes you state pure fact, without giving the reader the background and or lead up to your conclusion.

Eg There is no value in saying "the BIG BANG did not happen".... it is the how & why is important.

(Of course it is illogical .....but understand that mainstream nutters in acedamia... believe it as if it were a fact...let a lone students / professionals aspiring to fame and fortune!)

Become a consultative salesman.... if that is what you want to do ?....at sites conrtolled by IIEE members

Lead by questions and save your thunder (bolts) till they are unsteady enough from their... self congratitude




A pack of cards has (as you know ) excluding jokers ...52 cards!

Is that right?

JL: yes

There are two colours... black and red

Is that right?

JL: yes

Pick one!

If the card you are holding is Jack of Hearts red.... and they say "BLACK!"... you say sure... that leaves the RED! or if they say "RED" you say "exactly".....etc until you lead them to the only conclusion you believe is possible... eg Jack of Hearts

There are the "picture cards" and the non.. pick one ..etc

Lead them to it.....do not berrate them... INFORM...they are only really there to show how smart they "THINK" and and have been TOLD .. that they ARE OR wannabe!?

Mind you,the vid of the capacitor is MIND BLOWING and eventually after I replicate the experiment , I will resurrect that short but brilliant thread... think! .......FREQUENCY & RESONNANCE!

[Solar]

Lead them to it.....do not berrate them... INFORM...they are only really there to show how smart they "THINK" and and have been TOLD .. that they ARE OR wannabe!?

I had a discussion with a co-worker the other day who questioned me regarding the picture of Saturn's north pole on my I-phone.I informed him of the fact that it was Saturn's north pole and pointed out the hexagon pattern. Briefly touching on the fact that one can achieve such patterns with electric currents and plasma along the fact that plasma dominates space as the fourth state of matter.

I also showed him some Chladni figures video and said I was having a debate with some friends as to which (electrical forces or sound) may be producing the pattern at Saturn's pole.

Friend's Reply: 'Well, Maybe it is a result of inaudible sound from the electrical forces.'

I found his reply interesting and said "Thats a good one actually. So you suggest both forces could be at play?"

Friend: "Yea".

Me: "Hmmm.. I'll have to make that suggestion."

We then went our separate ways. The point is that I didn't 'tell' him anything. Time spent, about 5 min. Length of 'seed planted' ... priceless.

These ideas will not prove fruitful when trying to assert one's position through the thickness of established 'knowledge filters'. The power of suggestion is more appropriate in my opinion.

[junglelord]

When your among a group of electronic experts, you should not need to watch your step when you say only varying electric currents create varying magnetic fields....in space as well as on earth.

[Solar]

When your among a group of electronic experts, you should not need to watch your step when you say only varying electric currents create varying magnetic fields....in space as well as on earth.

But they don't consider you to be of their number. Neither do they consider you (nor me for that matter) to be of those who would someday like to be of their number.

Thus, the things that you would like to present to them, even if presented in their language, are irrelevant in this regard. They know who their regular posters are. They know when a student is asking and/or responding and they take their responsibility to educate them in what some may refer to as 'standard doctrine', but others may consider to be Education, seriously. Corpuscles is correct in his approach to the situation.

You've been involved, for quite some time, in a scientifically based area of study that will not gain acceptance in established circles without rigorous standards. As you know these things progress slowly because said area of study is not privy to funding etc. Yet, there ARE important people listening and slowly incorporating the work through the appropriate veins. Not that said work hasn't already been available.

For all understandings you have regarding the nature of Tesla's work did you miss his most vital and elegant equation i.e. "The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”?

The qualitative hypothesis that is the Electric Universe shares in that lineage as the greater realization slowly comes forth through empirical means. That doesn't mean don't try; but lets not ponder in confusion over what the result may be. It is a road well traveled after all.

[junglelord]

But they don't consider you to be of their number. Neither do they consider you (nor me for that matter) to be of those who would someday like to be of their number.

Dude, I am a Electronic Engineering Technologist, member of the IEEE.


I am therefore one of their number, as you put it.
Graduated in 1983, I have extensive experienced in Satellite Communications and Military Sonar.

I am therefore well versed in wave propagation and wireless transmission technology.

[Solar]

Dude, I am a Electronic Engineering Technologist, member of the IEEE.


I am therefore one of their number, as you put it.
Graduated in 1983, I have extensive experienced in Satellite Communications and Military Sonar.

I am therefore well versed in wave propagation and wireless transmission technology.

LOL!! As if official circles don't have credentialed renegades who are barred from those very same credentialed circles. You're beginning to sound like what you say; you detest. Not good.

Did you blast them with that while you were at it? If so did it help? As many times as you've seen other members being banned from forums what is the point of this? You've seen this before. You know what it is. You knew this before walking into that other forum. It seems to me that despite the fact of understanding that the electric force would still hold the atoms and molecules together; you still decided to run headlong into the brick wall and are now pondering why no phase-shift occurred with the wall.

Put the ionized water down and step away from the keyboard. One would think that you should've expected the reception you received. No use to pine over it now lad.

[junglelord]

I was on there for some circuits.
I did not go there to preach EU, but when pressed, I said whats in my heart...so shoot me.


As far as being shocked that IEEE guys do not get it, well yes I am.
It is supported by the IEEE....so I see no logic in their position.
That they would choose people outside their profession, to speak for them, in a manner, that is contary to everything they have been taught, well its surprising to me.