Planetary motion and Phi

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Planetary motion and Phi

Post by valerysom » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:26 pm

Hi Valery,

You have some good points in your theory. Have you read Walter Russell's various books? ie. The Universal One? He has several books which have very similar style and function to your theory. A.E. Dolbear is another guy thats not heard much about, but he had a good book called "matter, ether and motion" in the late 1800s that allows for how matter is retarded and structured motion. The various rates and characteristics of motion are what define the "differences" in matter that we call elements, but which are just altered structures of the one substance. Walter Russell has a differently related periodic table of the elements as well which you might find helpful. His books can be picked up at http://www.dowsers. com (tho I've no affiliation with them, thats just where I got my copies for Russell. http://www.abebooks. com is good for Dolbear and other hard to find writings.... :) )

cold diffusion of h2o sounds pretty novel. (tho there is yet another book that you might enjoy for its ideas that puts this idea as a natural function of the earth, noting that at a particular depth into the earths crust an elemental molecule is comprised that can instantly dissociate water and which is a source of magnificent steam pressures which are what liquify the rock above resultindg in magma formation which may erupt as volcanic lava perhaps. That book is called Etidorhpa (Aphrodite spelled backwards... ) Its also rather old so abebooks is probably ur best bet.

They might have other ideas for you to advance your thinking.

Take care,
Gene

Gene
Thanks I was unaware of others having postulated as I do, and will attempt to get a look at the mentioned materials. The theories that I have developed are and were the result of logical deductions and analysis of anomaly and paradoxes that our current scientific community doesn’t like to discuss.

If the mentioned authors believed as I do; this only confirms to me that other have suggested in the past that something at the core of our current physics models is vary wrong. The fact that there believes were not seriously investigated (along with know paradox) makes me question many who claim to be true scientist.

It is vital in research in any discipline to keep an open mind and always question all theoretical models no matter how well they are accepted i.e. (general relative).

Einstein him self stated that his theory were only valid till new better theories were developed that better explained nature and all that we know of its processes.

I am currently preparing a paper for review.

I have a
simple mathematical model of the solar system that shows the direct Phi
relationship to:

A. planetary spacing from the sun. (How planetary spacing from Phi ideal locations can be calculated and used to model. B, C and D. below)

B. planetary inclination to the solar plan (mathematically explains why and how much each planet is tilted).

C. planetary rotational period’s day. (Again simple mathematics using phi)

D. planetary revolution period’s year.

Now need I state that there is no current mathematical construct that even
attempts to explain point A B C, and D.

The current models suggest planetary motion within the solar system are for the most part random and coincidental in the nature and can offer no mathematical models.

I my self believe there are no coincides, and will produce and present to the scientific community simple easy to follow mathematic evidence that by no coincidence can predict B, C, and D listed above.

I will also offer up a slightly different, shall I use the term Special
model of the moon and its unique translation of Phi into motion in it’s
continues orbital battle with the sun’s magnetosphere and its owner the
earth’s magnetosphere or what the current standard model only knows as
gravity and vector motion.

I’ll be attempting to contact universities with good credentials and an interest to do an impartial empirical study of my work.

I will require that interested parties sign a non-disclosure agreement, not to keep the genie in the bottle, but attempt to slowly build a base or community of believers to both work with and defend its validity upon release.

To often when current paradigm are challenged the dogma that exists in our scientific communities and the protective arm of the status quo are quick to dispel and discourage the investigation of new models.
Thus we/they resist to-do good science. We/they need to get back to the basics and discontinue ignoring evidence (unexplained repeatable anomalies and know paradoxes)
And use these data sets to challenge the old models.

We/they need to be willing to thoroughly explore new models that attempt to bet ter explain some of the vary simplest fundamental reactions of matter.
I.E.
What is heat?
How is heat (kinetic energy) transferred from one pieces of matter to another?
How is heat transferred from the sun via the matter less void we know as space?
Where and how is heat (kinetic energy) stored?
What transformation takes place in matter to form a permanent magnet?
Why are new bloch walls formed when you divide(cut in pieces) a permanent magnet?
Why do these newly divided pieces reverse their magnetic polar polarity?
Why can’t a permanent magnet’s magnetic field be rotated on its polar axis? (Faraday’s paradox)
I believe I have the answers to all of these questions above and will be posing to the scientific community an additional question.
That is: If I possess a simple mathematical explanation that shows a direct relationship to phi that describes and explains the motion of the solar system how can this be ignored?

(Phi an Anomalous relationship that is know to effect the organization of all matter at every level of the universe from DNA to spiral galaxy).

Ignoring such evidence and failing to thoroughly investigate it, regardless of its source (outside the standard models),(as well as outside the status quo structure) would truly be an example of the hypocrisy that exist in our scientific community.

Let’s work to find truth in all that we do. Even if one truth falls by the introduction of a new truth; (new theories, new data sets) lets keep renewing truth as needed and welcome creative new ideas not sweep them under the rug.

Valery

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Re: Planetary motion and Phi

Post by junglelord » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:25 pm

Take a new look at the solar system and see the incredible relationships that result when Mercury, the first planet, is used as the base measure for the other planets.
The 3/4 Connection
The ¾ power is founded in the laws of planetary motion


At first glance, the 3/4 power used in relating Venus to Earth and Earth to Mars may seem odd or even contrived, but it becomes clear once you understand Kepler's 3rd Law of planetary motion, which states:

The square of a planet's orbital period is proportional to the cube of its average distance from the Sun.

So we have:

Distance 3 = Period 2

And, if we take the one-quarter power of this we get:

Distance 3/4 = Period 2/4 = Period 1/2 = Square of the Root of the Period





The orbits of Venus, Earth and Mars are clearly related


So what this is really telling us is that the relationship of Venus to the Earth and the Earth to Mars is really based on the orbital period, or rather the square root of the orbital period. In other words, these three planets relate to each other like the second, minute and hour gears of a precisely calibrated clock:

Planet Distance Period Distance¾ Square Root of the Period
Venus 1.86603 2.54904 1.59657 1.59657
Earth 2.58331 4.15206 2.03766 2.03766
Mars 3.93646 7.81013 2.79466 2.79466

So, in Solar Geometry, where the orbital distance and period of Mercury are both equal to one, we get these relationships:

Distance of the Earth =Square Root of the Period of Venus * Phi

2.583306 = 1.596571 * 1.618034

and

Distance of Mars =Square Root of the Period of Earth *Square Root of the Diameter of Venus

3.936458 = 2.037661 * 1.931852

There is no natural explanation for these unusual relationships


Kepler's laws tell us that the distance of each planet is related to its own orbital period. There is no natural reason for one planet's orbit to be related to any other, yet these clearly are.



http://solargeometry.com/index.htm
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
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Re: Planetary motion and Phi

Post by junglelord » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:37 pm

Proving the Extraordinary Nature
of Solar Geometry
Consider the relative values for planetary distances provided by Solar Geometry when Mercury equals 1:

Planet Calculated
Value from
Solar Geometry
Mercury 1.0000000000000
Venus 1.8660254037844
Earth 2.5833057115410
Mars 3.9364580433138
Jupiter 13.4399084391945

These values produce some absolutely astonishing relationships between Earth and the other planets. Keep in mind that the following relationships are not approximations. When computed using values from the Solar Geometry calculations for each planet they produce exact mathematical equalities.

The Earth - Venus Relationship


In the Bible, seven is a sign of completeness, from its first appearance in Genesis in the seven days of creation to Revelations, where it appears sixty times. Consider this relationship between Earth and Venus:

( Earth 4 / Venus 3 ) + ( Venus 3 / Earth 4 ) = 7

The Earth - Mars Relationship


This theme of sevens, or two times seven, continues in the relationship of Earth to Mars:

( Mars 4 / Earth 3 ) + ( Earth 3 / Mars 4 ) = 14

The Earth - Jupiter Relationship


It has long been thought that the ancients considered 6 to be the perfect number because 1+2+3=6 and 1*2*3=6. In this relationship, one also finds the union of 1, 2 and 3, the trinity. Or could, perhaps, the real answer be found in the following relationship?

Earth ¾ * ( Ö1 + Ö2 + Ö3 + Ö6 ) = Jupiter

Note: Öx indicates the square root of x

The Earth - Venus - Jupiter Relationship


This relationship relates the Earth to both Venus and Jupiter:

Earth ¾ * ( Ö(4 * Venus) + Ö(8 * Venus) ) ) = Jupiter

Relationships Based on Orbital Periods


The use of the ¾ power in the formulas for Earth and Mars may seem like a creative invention, but it's a direct result of the laws of planetary motion, which state that the square of a planet's orbital period is proportional to the cube of its average distance from the Sun.

Understanding this, we discover that Venus, Earth and Mars are related to each other like the gears of a precisely calibrated clock:

Distance of the Earth = Ö Period of Venus * Phi

and

Distance of Mars = Ö Period of Earth * Ö Diameter of Venus' Orbit

Click HERE or on the gears for details.

Relationships between Other Planets


As shown on the Geometries and Calculations pages, each planet has a unique geometric relationship to the one before it. By the time you get to Jupiter, the accumulation of these relationships results in an elegant, but reasonably complicated set of integers, roots, exponents, multiples and additions. Despite this, our solar system still has an underlying foundation that reveals beauty, simplicity and symmetry:

Jupiter = Ö2 * Mercury at Aphelion * Ö2 * Mars * Ö2

The Earth - Moon Relationship


Although not part of Solar Geometry, even our moon exhibits an unusual relationship to the Earth. Its orbital period times seven-squared, or 49, is 1447, a prime number. In addition, solar eclipses are only possible because of the very unique relationship between its size and distance from the Sun and the Earth. (Click HERE or on photo for more.)


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Why do these relationships exist? Do they demonstrate the Divine design of the solar system? That is a question that we each can only answer for ourselves. They do seem quite difficult to explain by naturalistic explanations for the origins of the solar system. And these may be just the beginning of many other relationships still to be discovered.

There is yet another relationship involving the Earth, one which relates the distance of Earth from the Sun to the design of life itself.
Proving the Extraordinary Nature
of Solar Geometry
Consider the relative values for planetary distances provided by Solar Geometry when Mercury equals 1:

Planet Calculated
Value from
Solar Geometry
Mercury 1.0000000000000
Venus 1.8660254037844
Earth 2.5833057115410
Mars 3.9364580433138
Jupiter 13.4399084391945

These values produce some absolutely astonishing relationships between Earth and the other planets. Keep in mind that the following relationships are not approximations. When computed using values from the Solar Geometry calculations for each planet they produce exact mathematical equalities.

The Earth - Venus Relationship


In the Bible, seven is a sign of completeness, from its first appearance in Genesis in the seven days of creation to Revelations, where it appears sixty times. Consider this relationship between Earth and Venus:

( Earth 4 / Venus 3 ) + ( Venus 3 / Earth 4 ) = 7

The Earth - Mars Relationship


This theme of sevens, or two times seven, continues in the relationship of Earth to Mars:

( Mars 4 / Earth 3 ) + ( Earth 3 / Mars 4 ) = 14

The Earth - Jupiter Relationship


It has long been thought that the ancients considered 6 to be the perfect number because 1+2+3=6 and 1*2*3=6. In this relationship, one also finds the union of 1, 2 and 3, the trinity. Or could, perhaps, the real answer be found in the following relationship?

Earth ¾ * ( Ö1 + Ö2 + Ö3 + Ö6 ) = Jupiter

Note: Öx indicates the square root of x

The Earth - Venus - Jupiter Relationship


This relationship relates the Earth to both Venus and Jupiter:

Earth ¾ * ( Ö(4 * Venus) + Ö(8 * Venus) ) ) = Jupiter

Relationships Based on Orbital Periods


The use of the ¾ power in the formulas for Earth and Mars may seem like a creative invention, but it's a direct result of the laws of planetary motion, which state that the square of a planet's orbital period is proportional to the cube of its average distance from the Sun.

Understanding this, we discover that Venus, Earth and Mars are related to each other like the gears of a precisely calibrated clock:

Distance of the Earth = Ö Period of Venus * Phi

and

Distance of Mars = Ö Period of Earth * Ö Diameter of Venus' Orbit

Click HERE or on the gears for details.

Relationships between Other Planets


As shown on the Geometries and Calculations pages, each planet has a unique geometric relationship to the one before it. By the time you get to Jupiter, the accumulation of these relationships results in an elegant, but reasonably complicated set of integers, roots, exponents, multiples and additions. Despite this, our solar system still has an underlying foundation that reveals beauty, simplicity and symmetry:

Jupiter = Ö2 * Mercury at Aphelion * Ö2 * Mars * Ö2

The Earth - Moon Relationship


Although not part of Solar Geometry, even our moon exhibits an unusual relationship to the Earth. Its orbital period times seven-squared, or 49, is 1447, a prime number. In addition, solar eclipses are only possible because of the very unique relationship between its size and distance from the Sun and the Earth. (Click HERE or on photo for more.)


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Why do these relationships exist? Do they demonstrate the Divine design of the solar system? That is a question that we each can only answer for ourselves. They do seem quite difficult to explain by naturalistic explanations for the origins of the solar system. And these may be just the beginning of many other relationships still to be discovered.

There is yet another relationship involving the Earth, one which relates the distance of Earth from the Sun to the design of life itself.

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla
Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
Knowledge is Structured in Consciouness. Structure and Function Cannot Be Seperated.
— Junglelord

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Re: Planetary motion and Phi

Post by junglelord » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:39 pm

Earth and the Relationship to Phi
As shown on the Distance Calculation page, the distance of the Earth from the Sun, where Mercury is 1, is computed as follows:

((½ ( Ö3 + 1 )) ^ (½ ( Ö4 + 1 ))) * (½ ( Ö5 + 1 ))

Note: Öx indicates the square root of x

There is something quite incredible about this derivation for Earth.

Note the repeating term ½ ( Öx + 1 ) with 3, 4, and 5

First, it is quite amazing that the same form of:
½ ( Öx + 1 )

would appear in three successive terms using the integers 3, 4, and 5 for x.

3, 4 and 5 are, of course, the key integers used in the most elementary example of the Pythagorean theory for right triangles, where

32 + 42 = 52.




The third term, ½ ( Ö5 + 1 ), is Phi!

More incredible yet is that the third term, ½ ( Ö5 + 1 ), is none other than the ubiquitous number 1.6180339..., better known as phi, or Φ. Phi has mathematical properties unlike any other number. The reciprocal of Φ is Φ-1, or 0.6180339... . When a line is divided at 1/Φ, the ratio of the small section to the large section will be identical to the ratio of the large section to the entire line.




This results in the incredible relationship of 1 and Φ between Venus (to the ¾ power) and Earth:



Phi appears in the design of many life forms!

Phi is the number behind the Golden Section, or Divine Proportion, and the Fibonacci series. It appears throughout in living organisms in everything from every key dimension of the human body, to the spirals of sea shells, to the arrangements of stems on a plant.

See the Links page for more on this.

Similarities in the derivation of Phi and the Earth's distance.


It is also interesting that the derivation of Phi is so similar to the derivation of the distance of the Earth from the Sun. Consider the similarity in the formulaic construction, where the first two terms use an exponent and then a multiplier.

Phi is derived from:

Φ = 5 ^ .5 * .5 + .5 = 1.6180339...

While the distance of the Earth from the Sun, where Mercury = 1 is:

½ ( Ö3 + 1 ) ^ ½ ( Ö4 + 1 ) * ½ ( Ö5 + 1 ) = 2.583306...

The Earth embodies the two treasures of geometry


It's as though Earth embodies the Pythagorean theory and the Golden Section in one beautiful construction.

Perhaps Johannes Kepler (Mathematician and Astronomer, 1571-1630) had greater insight into the universe than we may have suspected when he said:

"Geometry has two great treasures: one the Theorem of Pythagoras; the other, the division of a line into extreme and mean ratio. The first we may compare to a measure of gold; the second we may name a precious jewel."
http://solargeometry.com/EarthPhi.htm
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla
Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
Knowledge is Structured in Consciouness. Structure and Function Cannot Be Seperated.
— Junglelord

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Re: Planetary motion and Phi

Post by junglelord » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:45 pm

My own explanation for WHY this relationship of PHI exists to the solar system orbits, to planetary tilts, to life on earth and the to the beauty of it all, is due to the fact that the original relationship of Aether as a Rotating Magnetic Field with a quantum spin of 2 related to the encapsulated Angular Momemtum known as matter with a quantum spin of 1/2, creates PHI after the second rotation. That is impossible to deny. Quantum spin exists. These relationships never change.

Think of a spirograph, with the outside wheel being the RMF of the Aether with the quantum spin of 2 and the inner wheel being the encapsulated 1/2 spin Angular Momentum. Voila, PHI appears after the second rotation of the inner wheel. This relationship remains forever fixed into the laws of EM and therefore exhibits itself in all the relationships just mentioned. From the Spiral Galaxy to the inner world of nano technology, structure and function cannot be seperated. You see this repeated over and over and over again via Sacred Geometry, the Platonic Solids, and PHI, Pi, e.

Everything is based on these measurement and these profound Platonic Solids. Like Nature is trying to send us a message. All we have to do is learn Her language.

To be in control of universe, you must understand the importance of 3-6-9 (RMF) and also the relationship of PHI to this Aether field (RMF) via the Angular Momentum, we call matter. The crown jewel of this is that each structure is related to a function, structure and function cannot be seperated, so that the patterns that repeat around this relationship, with structure and function, allows us to control the nonmaterial fields from which we are formed via structural shape and materials science. Think of a transmitter and reciever. From the dual double layer of a transistor to the single double layer of the diode, from the seperated capacitor plates to the inductor coil winding, these are all familar terminologys of plasma physics, double layers, charge seperation, spiral currents...its all the same thing. The structure controls the function
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla
Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
Knowledge is Structured in Consciouness. Structure and Function Cannot Be Seperated.
— Junglelord

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