The EM Universe

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by sjw40364 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:58 pm

GaryN wrote:
Hence my belief that supernovas are stars that have lost their connection.
Could be I guess, but where would the flailing ends of the Birkeland Current
go? Would they merge with other currents? I'd think that would cause a big surge
and emissions too, if it's even possible.
I think the exploding double layer is still the most likely answer, but with my
multi-layer charge confining Sun model, I'm bound to say that. Our Sun apparently
does a lot of flashing, short duration increases in brightness at certain wave
-lengths, and if you single step the frames of the SOHO videos you can see it happen.
Haven't tried it myself yet, but thats what I heard.
With my multiple shell model, the magnetic tension of the shells increases as you
move inwards, so a rupture of an inner shell might release huge energy bursts,
but they are really just flashes as far as the Sun is concerned.
With the clusters though, I'm not convinced those are all stars. I've been looking at
radio astronomy images lately, so I just wondered what a cluster would look like.
Went to NRAO and was disappointed, no images. In fact, I cant find any radio images
of any cluster. Have to have another look.
Millions of stars. Phooey.
I think all planets and stars are the locations of small ongoing Z-pinches, Think of how atoms hold electrons and protons and IMO the galaxy works exactly the same way, and ultimately the universe itself.

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by sjw40364 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:02 pm

GaryN wrote:Kepler finds first earth-size planets beyond our solar system
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Kepler-20e orbits its parent star every 6.1 days and Kepler-20f every 19.6 days. These short orbital periods mean very hot, inhospitable worlds.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-kep ... solar.html
This doesn't smell right to me. Orbiting at those periods suggests they are moons
orbiting a planet. Their assigned sizes, masses, distances are all out of whack, IMO.
Yes, even Mercury takes 87 days, so the likelihood that it is a single planet and not a system is slim and frankly I don't believe resolution is good enough to detect between single planets and entire system wobble of a star.

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by nick c » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:14 am

sjw40364 wrote:....frankly I don't believe resolution is good enough to detect between single planets and entire system wobble of a star.
The Kepler mission does not detect planets from the star's wobble, but rather measures fluctuations in the light of the star, inferring that a planet(s) is transiting the star. The method only works if the alignments between the star/exoplanet and the Kepler spacecraft are just right.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/keple ... index.html

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by sjw40364 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:27 pm

nick c wrote:
sjw40364 wrote:....frankly I don't believe resolution is good enough to detect between single planets and entire system wobble of a star.
The Kepler mission does not detect planets from the star's wobble, but rather measures fluctuations in the light of the star, inferring that a planet(s) is transiting the star. The method only works if the alignments between the star/exoplanet and the Kepler spacecraft are just right.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/keple ... index.html
And these same stars are but pinpricks even in Hubble, so I still doubt the accuracy of any conclusion. The planets would have to be huge to have any noticeable affect on the light.

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by nick c » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:54 pm

sjw40364 wrote:so I still doubt the accuracy of any conclusion.
So do I. They may be on the right track, but then again...maybe not. It seems to me that small fluctuations in a star's light maybe caused by things other than a transiting planet(s).

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:48 pm

I think viscount aero covers many of the bases with his post.
whenever you see "Solves Cosmic Mystery" in title...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =10&t=5495
The brightness, size, distance foundation that anchors present day cosmology
is most likely nonsense. Their foundation is made of sand IMO. I still can not
see our nearest neighbors as "without a doubt" stars, so why should I believe
anything they say about more distant objects?
A Hubble shot of Alpha and Beta Centauri.
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Bigger:
http://www.stsci.edu/~inr/thisweek1/thi ... phaCen.jpg
They look like fluorescing globes. They are assigned a temperature based on
incandescence, but what if it is fluorescence? My little neon light looks
'warm', but isn't.
Have CMEs ever been detected from A or B?
Has Spitzer ever looked at A or B? Will the proposed Square Kilometre Array
look at these 'stars'? I doubt it. Lets look at something very far away instead,
then nobody can question our models seems to be how they operate.
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by sjw40364 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:41 pm

nick c wrote:
sjw40364 wrote:so I still doubt the accuracy of any conclusion.
So do I. They may be on the right track, but then again...maybe not. It seems to me that small fluctuations in a star's light maybe caused by things other than a transiting planet(s).
Yes even our star fluctuates in brightness, might be a planet or a sunspot cycle. I'll leave the books open for now :D

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by shilpaesco » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:17 am

Dark matter in this case is angular momentum. Dave Thomson agrees that there are no black holes and no dark matter.
The terms in that sentence are not representive of common usage in cosmology.

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:55 am

More 'planets' in tiny orbits around more 'stars'. More evidence, IMO, that they have it all wrong.
Four new exoplanets to start off the new year!
The four planets, HAT-P-34b, HAT-P-35b, HAT-P-36b, HAT-P-37b all have very tight orbits around their (four different) stars, taking only 5.5, 3.6, 1.3 and 2.8 days to complete an orbit. Compare that to Mercury, which takes 87.969 days and 365 days of course for Earth.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-exo ... -year.html
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:17 pm

Scientists discover a Saturn-like ring system eclipsing a sun-like star
"But many questions remain about what exactly has been discovered." He says the object at the center of the
ring system is either a very low-mass star, brown dwarf, or planet. The answer lies in the object's mass.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-sci ... -star.html
..very low-mass star, brown dwarf, or planet. Covering their bases there, I'd say. ;-)
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Kepler Discovers a Tiny Solar System
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The gig is up guys. This IS a planet and its moons, as are most of what 'till now
we have been told are stars and planets. It will be a long time though before they
admit their folly, as there will be a lot of egg on a lot of faces.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... xoplanets/
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:54 pm

Try this one on for size, and novelty!
When 55 Cancri e was discovered in 2004, initial estimates of its size and mass were consistent with
a dense planet of solid rock. Spitzer data suggest otherwise: About a fifth of the planet's mass must
be made of light elements and compounds--including water. Given the intense heat and high pressure these
materials likely experience, researchers think the compounds likely exist in a "supercritical" fluid state.
A supercritical fluid is a high-pressure, high-temperature state of matter best described as a liquid-like
gas, and a marvelous solvent. Water becomes supercritical in some steam turbines--and it tends to dissolve
the tips of the turbine blades. Supercritical carbon dioxide is used to remove caffeine from coffee beans,
and sometimes to dry-clean clothes. Liquid-fueled rocket propellant is also supercritical when it emerges
from the tail of a spaceship.
On 55 Cancri e, this stuff may be literally oozing--or is it steaming?--out of the rocks.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... n_rethink/
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by allynh » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Here is a pretty view from the Space Station. You can see the bottom of the station light up from the airbursts below.

Watch the Milky Way spin
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... =cosmiclog

Full screen
http://www.youtube.com/v/GxH3Pnknhps

ISS Passes Over Stormy Africa (w/Milky Way)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxH3Pnknhps

From NASA
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/Videos/CrewEart ... HD_web.mov

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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:51 pm

Hi allynh,
That Milky Way/ Crescent Earth shot is getting pretty boring to me. I just wish they'd
point the camera away from the Earth and show us what can be seen. Oh, and show us the
Sun through a solar filter too. Stubborn, aren't I?
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Re: The EM Universe

Post by GaryN » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:02 pm

Mmm, particle acceleration...
This is Jupiter, cyclotron emissions at 6 cm.
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Energetic Particle Acceleration
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10993&page=65
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