It's 2:38 AM here in Wales UK. If you Google my name plus circle city you should find some stuff. I'll get back to you tomorrow.
Bob
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Circle Cities
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Lloyd
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Re: Circle Cities
* Hi Bob. This is what we discussed a few months ago.
Salvation via Circle Cities
* Bob said his Circle Cities idea could save civilization, that's why the title of this.
* Here's more on Bob's idea since our chatroom discussion. My main interest in this at present is potential win-win dialog with the rich. Here's our recent exchange. My part is questions; his is answers.
* Can you fill in the gaps here in your plan from the chatroom the other day?
Parts of Bob's Plan:
- create local business groups, that empower people
- start 24-hr free food vegan cafes where people can meet
- Phase one: get fully funded groups
- Phase two: what? building structures, circle cities?
- In circle cities [?] there's no rat race and no Money needed
- The super rich believe we wish them harm, the result of money inequality
- The rich need a place where they feel safe to be themselves
- start a global wealth creating project to create millions of jobs
- the structures themselves are wealth
Questions
* 1. How do we create local business groups?
I'm calling for volunteers to help start things off in my own area as a test bed. I have one volunteer but I need about twenty-five. I have money and knowledge about making money and acquiring properties on mortgages. Also, businesses can be bought and local money used to help in the purchase. You will need far more details but this email will need to be short and to the point.
* 2. How would these business groups empower members?
To be in business for yourself is empowering. It can also be very difficult, that is the reason for a collective approach with shared resources including labour.
* 3. How do we get free food for the free food cafes?
Ideally we grow plenty of food and deliver it to the free-food cafe(s) where the members (who helped grow the food) get to eat it, and if we grow enough we can also feed non-members. On top of this we can ask for free food from the public who throw away a lot of eatable food. When I ran a free-shop I got all my goods this way.
* 4. What entices people to meet there?
That something different and exciting is happening, at last, and they want to find out more and maybe be a part of it and benefit from it.
* 5. What's the purpose in having them meet there?
To discuss our collective plans over a snack or full meal before going off to put ideas into practice, in the knowledge that we are not alone.
* 6. How do the business groups get funded in phase one?
Essentially self funded. Some of us have some liquidity (cash and property etc) to input, and there are those who will lend money to good causes or invest in them to get a return.
* 7. Is phase two to build the circle city structures?
That's correct.
* 8. What's the role of the business groups in phase 1 & 2?
In phase one the business groups are to pull together local wealth and talent into a coherent body that functions to benefit the members and the public. The main business of phase two is to build more circle cities and the underground transport system that joins the circle cities to each other and to the old society (for mutual advantage).
* 9. What does circle city mean?
10. What are the circle city structures like?
Strictly speaking a circle city is an unconventional building for an unconventional purpose. It is a building that though only about two hundred feet wide is long enough to encircle the two thousand acres of cropland needed to feed the ten thousand occupants. That is to say, a little over six mile around the circumference of a two mile diameter circle of land. This protects the land from rats and rabbits and so on and also allows waste heat to be used to warm the soil in cooler countries, and waste water in drier countries so that we get maximum crops from minimum land.
* 11. What are the structures for?
For people to live their lives in and near. Inside a circle city will be like the best of our present buildings, like a continuous atrium with fruiting creepers growing up the trellis to keep off the harsh sun and make it seem like you are not in a building at all. And for those who like the outdoors they are right there outside within easy reach.
* 12. Are the circle cities the safe place for the rich?
13. What makes them safe?
The circle cities will be very safe for rich and poor alike. When you move into a circle city you agree to certain rules, such as no tobacco or drugs or drunkenness, and no violence, and no forcing yourself on others the way the paparazzi do or salesmen and scam artists.
* 14. What makes the rich believe we wish them harm?
They are vulnerable because of their wealth. It only takes one person or small group to kidnap a rich person or their child or even their whole family for ransom. That could happen in a circle city but it's far less likely.
* 15. What kind of harm do they suppose we wish them?
I'm sure you and I don't wish them harm. 99+% of people are okay, it's the less than one percent who succumb to greed and who probably had a violent upbringing that we all have to fear. Gated communities are proving very popular. This takes that concept further.
* 16. What were you saying is the result of money inequality?
Envy, for a start. It's only natural. Any poor person will envy the rich and want to be rich. Some of the poorest people on earth will be able to get work building circle cities or in industries serving the construction programme. Those that build them will also get to live in them as part of the deal.
* 17. How do the rich experience the rat race?
Maybe the idle rich don't, but most rich are hard working in the rat race, at the cutting edge of it and have to deal with life's vicissitudes.
* 18. How do the circle cities function without money?
If they work at all it will be through collective, voluntary co-operation. That is why phase one is so important, to develop that side of people before we build circle cities. And they are not so much living without money but living without money worries. Each circle city will trade with the outside world in a variety of ways, and goods will be bought for the members and be freely available to them.
* 19. Is the wealth-creating project the building of the circle city structures?
This will be the major wealth creation project along with retro-fitting existing structures to make them more eco-friendly and efficient.
* 20. Who pays the builders?
The circle city corporation does. And they get their money from a variety of sources including but not exclusively from those who wish to live there.
* 21. How does this plan achieve world peace & freedom?
Partly by removing poverty around the world. Of course, one circle city being built in one country can have little effect, that would be just a start. From that and the thousands of local phase one groups we will need to encourage the whole world to get involved so everyone can benefit. As the big engine phase two, circle cities, they will need to be built in increasing numbers. As the world gears itself up for this long boom and takes us all out of recession, away from boom and bust we will be able to really believe lasting peace and prosperity and justice are all possible. That'll be a first. At present there seems to be a perception that there simply isn't enough of everything to go around. The aim is to show this is not the case. There is enough for our needs, but not our greed. There is enough land on which to grow our food as well as trees for fuel after fossil fuels are gone. There's enough rain and sun and wind and waves and tides, if we harness them correctly not wastefully.
Salvation via Circle Cities
* Bob said his Circle Cities idea could save civilization, that's why the title of this.
* Here's more on Bob's idea since our chatroom discussion. My main interest in this at present is potential win-win dialog with the rich. Here's our recent exchange. My part is questions; his is answers.
* Can you fill in the gaps here in your plan from the chatroom the other day?
Parts of Bob's Plan:
- create local business groups, that empower people
- start 24-hr free food vegan cafes where people can meet
- Phase one: get fully funded groups
- Phase two: what? building structures, circle cities?
- In circle cities [?] there's no rat race and no Money needed
- The super rich believe we wish them harm, the result of money inequality
- The rich need a place where they feel safe to be themselves
- start a global wealth creating project to create millions of jobs
- the structures themselves are wealth
Questions
* 1. How do we create local business groups?
I'm calling for volunteers to help start things off in my own area as a test bed. I have one volunteer but I need about twenty-five. I have money and knowledge about making money and acquiring properties on mortgages. Also, businesses can be bought and local money used to help in the purchase. You will need far more details but this email will need to be short and to the point.
* 2. How would these business groups empower members?
To be in business for yourself is empowering. It can also be very difficult, that is the reason for a collective approach with shared resources including labour.
* 3. How do we get free food for the free food cafes?
Ideally we grow plenty of food and deliver it to the free-food cafe(s) where the members (who helped grow the food) get to eat it, and if we grow enough we can also feed non-members. On top of this we can ask for free food from the public who throw away a lot of eatable food. When I ran a free-shop I got all my goods this way.
* 4. What entices people to meet there?
That something different and exciting is happening, at last, and they want to find out more and maybe be a part of it and benefit from it.
* 5. What's the purpose in having them meet there?
To discuss our collective plans over a snack or full meal before going off to put ideas into practice, in the knowledge that we are not alone.
* 6. How do the business groups get funded in phase one?
Essentially self funded. Some of us have some liquidity (cash and property etc) to input, and there are those who will lend money to good causes or invest in them to get a return.
* 7. Is phase two to build the circle city structures?
That's correct.
* 8. What's the role of the business groups in phase 1 & 2?
In phase one the business groups are to pull together local wealth and talent into a coherent body that functions to benefit the members and the public. The main business of phase two is to build more circle cities and the underground transport system that joins the circle cities to each other and to the old society (for mutual advantage).
* 9. What does circle city mean?
10. What are the circle city structures like?
Strictly speaking a circle city is an unconventional building for an unconventional purpose. It is a building that though only about two hundred feet wide is long enough to encircle the two thousand acres of cropland needed to feed the ten thousand occupants. That is to say, a little over six mile around the circumference of a two mile diameter circle of land. This protects the land from rats and rabbits and so on and also allows waste heat to be used to warm the soil in cooler countries, and waste water in drier countries so that we get maximum crops from minimum land.
* 11. What are the structures for?
For people to live their lives in and near. Inside a circle city will be like the best of our present buildings, like a continuous atrium with fruiting creepers growing up the trellis to keep off the harsh sun and make it seem like you are not in a building at all. And for those who like the outdoors they are right there outside within easy reach.
* 12. Are the circle cities the safe place for the rich?
13. What makes them safe?
The circle cities will be very safe for rich and poor alike. When you move into a circle city you agree to certain rules, such as no tobacco or drugs or drunkenness, and no violence, and no forcing yourself on others the way the paparazzi do or salesmen and scam artists.
* 14. What makes the rich believe we wish them harm?
They are vulnerable because of their wealth. It only takes one person or small group to kidnap a rich person or their child or even their whole family for ransom. That could happen in a circle city but it's far less likely.
* 15. What kind of harm do they suppose we wish them?
I'm sure you and I don't wish them harm. 99+% of people are okay, it's the less than one percent who succumb to greed and who probably had a violent upbringing that we all have to fear. Gated communities are proving very popular. This takes that concept further.
* 16. What were you saying is the result of money inequality?
Envy, for a start. It's only natural. Any poor person will envy the rich and want to be rich. Some of the poorest people on earth will be able to get work building circle cities or in industries serving the construction programme. Those that build them will also get to live in them as part of the deal.
* 17. How do the rich experience the rat race?
Maybe the idle rich don't, but most rich are hard working in the rat race, at the cutting edge of it and have to deal with life's vicissitudes.
* 18. How do the circle cities function without money?
If they work at all it will be through collective, voluntary co-operation. That is why phase one is so important, to develop that side of people before we build circle cities. And they are not so much living without money but living without money worries. Each circle city will trade with the outside world in a variety of ways, and goods will be bought for the members and be freely available to them.
* 19. Is the wealth-creating project the building of the circle city structures?
This will be the major wealth creation project along with retro-fitting existing structures to make them more eco-friendly and efficient.
* 20. Who pays the builders?
The circle city corporation does. And they get their money from a variety of sources including but not exclusively from those who wish to live there.
* 21. How does this plan achieve world peace & freedom?
Partly by removing poverty around the world. Of course, one circle city being built in one country can have little effect, that would be just a start. From that and the thousands of local phase one groups we will need to encourage the whole world to get involved so everyone can benefit. As the big engine phase two, circle cities, they will need to be built in increasing numbers. As the world gears itself up for this long boom and takes us all out of recession, away from boom and bust we will be able to really believe lasting peace and prosperity and justice are all possible. That'll be a first. At present there seems to be a perception that there simply isn't enough of everything to go around. The aim is to show this is not the case. There is enough for our needs, but not our greed. There is enough land on which to grow our food as well as trees for fuel after fossil fuels are gone. There's enough rain and sun and wind and waves and tides, if we harness them correctly not wastefully.
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Lloyd
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Re: Circle Cities
* I also found this info.
- The cities of the future could be free to live in once you have bought into them. They will only get built, and at great cost, if those who can afford to do so buy into them. My design, the circle city concept, would cost at least £100,000 per person, but once there you would not need ever to use money or barter again, everything would be free.
- This could only work of course if everyone shared the necessary work. Necessary work includes food growing, systems maintaining and business with the outside world.
- Business with the outside world would be business with other free cities, and money business with the old capitalist cities. It might take a thousand years before capitalism disappeared altogether.
- I ran a successful free-shop in Maesteg 12 or 13 years ago. Now I want to get moving again on such projects, including free food vegan cafes. Anyone interested?
- PS. I was poor when I ran the free shop, now I am far better off and aim to become far richer in order to make my dreams come true. Join this new revolution if you have nothing better to do, and what could be better? Saving the world will be the noblest task.
As for vertical growing, there are simple systems like growing a tomato plant in your house window, or the moving pouch system for growing algae, or my own simple system writ large, growing fruiting vines up the inside of my circle city design glass arcade.
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For ten thousand people inside there would be a glass arcade ninety feet wide and fifty feet high with full size fruit and nut trees down the centre and nicely spaced vines from floor to top. I'm not sure how much food that would produce, but with insect pests unable to get in it should be maximal. The two thousand acres of other land could also be glassed over and some of the over eighteen thousand acres outside of the city could grow food trees as well as timber trees of all kinds that the other species need.
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It is doable now, at a cost. Very little has been done so far, but if the sky scrapers are abandoned we could turn those into vertical farms, and they are more likely to be abandoned if we build thousands of circle cities. But before we can build a single circle city we need to build up a system of local enterprise groups, and in order to build the first, the prototype, I need volunteers, here, this year. So if you can get yourself here or get others here you will be starting to save the planet.
- The cities of the future could be free to live in once you have bought into them. They will only get built, and at great cost, if those who can afford to do so buy into them. My design, the circle city concept, would cost at least £100,000 per person, but once there you would not need ever to use money or barter again, everything would be free.
- This could only work of course if everyone shared the necessary work. Necessary work includes food growing, systems maintaining and business with the outside world.
- Business with the outside world would be business with other free cities, and money business with the old capitalist cities. It might take a thousand years before capitalism disappeared altogether.
- I ran a successful free-shop in Maesteg 12 or 13 years ago. Now I want to get moving again on such projects, including free food vegan cafes. Anyone interested?
- PS. I was poor when I ran the free shop, now I am far better off and aim to become far richer in order to make my dreams come true. Join this new revolution if you have nothing better to do, and what could be better? Saving the world will be the noblest task.
As for vertical growing, there are simple systems like growing a tomato plant in your house window, or the moving pouch system for growing algae, or my own simple system writ large, growing fruiting vines up the inside of my circle city design glass arcade.
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For ten thousand people inside there would be a glass arcade ninety feet wide and fifty feet high with full size fruit and nut trees down the centre and nicely spaced vines from floor to top. I'm not sure how much food that would produce, but with insect pests unable to get in it should be maximal. The two thousand acres of other land could also be glassed over and some of the over eighteen thousand acres outside of the city could grow food trees as well as timber trees of all kinds that the other species need.
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It is doable now, at a cost. Very little has been done so far, but if the sky scrapers are abandoned we could turn those into vertical farms, and they are more likely to be abandoned if we build thousands of circle cities. But before we can build a single circle city we need to build up a system of local enterprise groups, and in order to build the first, the prototype, I need volunteers, here, this year. So if you can get yourself here or get others here you will be starting to save the planet.
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Re: Circle Cities
What sort of political structure do these cities have?
If they are that good, how come you still have rich and poor?
What evidence do you have that capitalism and altruism go together?
Why do they have to be vegan?
What evidence do you have that people can survive and thrive on artificially grown food?
What makes you think that people want to live like ants in little colonies?
If they are that good, how come you still have rich and poor?
What evidence do you have that capitalism and altruism go together?
Why do they have to be vegan?
What evidence do you have that people can survive and thrive on artificially grown food?
What makes you think that people want to live like ants in little colonies?
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Lloyd
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Re: Circle Cities
* How about coming up with alternative ideas to the parts of the plan that you think are not ideal?
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robertcircle1
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Re: Circle Cities
Hi Grey Cloud,Grey Cloud wrote:What sort of political structure do these cities have?
If they are that good, how come you still have rich and poor?
What evidence do you have that capitalism and altruism go together?
Why do they have to be vegan?
What evidence do you have that people can survive and thrive on artificially grown food?
What makes you think that people want to live like ants in little colonies?
Thank you for your interest in the twin concepts of local business collectives and circle city networks. I will answer each question in turn.
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The sort of political structure I hope they will have will be the highest degree of democracy or sociocracy possible. Since everyone will be an equal shareholder in the co-operative and everyone will have one vote, then those things that need voting on will be put to the vote. Many decisions might be left to any member who takes on a particular responsibility, like growing tomatoes, for instance. If that member does well and grows enough tomatoes for everyone no more need be done. If the member fails to grow any or enough tomatoes it will be for other members to take on some or all that responsibility. The same would apply to each and every task. If no-one will take on a particular responsibility then an outsider can be paid to do the job. I envisage a slow transition and an interaction between the moneyless communities, the moneyed communities and the halfway communities, all for mutual benefit along the learning road to a completely moneyless world, which might take decades or centuries to get it right.
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It is because of this slow transition that poverty cannot be totally eradicated instantly. There are other methods within the greater plan that will help in this respect.
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Whilst capitalism isn't altruistic in itself it does provide a framework for us to get what we all need so long as we use it in that way. I think it is because this hasn't been generally recognised that there is such a divide between the haves and the have nots. It is logical when you think of it. If a rich person has a house built the money goes to the builders and the building suppliers and the transport companies and so on. All of these companies employ ordinary people as workers and pay living wages. And the rich person gains a house that is worth what it cost, or maybe more than it cost. So it is a win win situation. A circle city is a very large house with very many rooms and much land outside for the enjoyment of the people.
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They don't have to be vegan, there will be animals in the forest outside that can be killed and eaten, but I will remain vegan.
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There will be no artificially grown food. We will make the very best compost possible and recycle all our wastes in a variety of ways.
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Ants do okay, we can learn from them, but our needs are somewhat different to theirs and that will be reflected in the design of the structure and also in the fact that the members will be free to come and go as they please.
Please feel free to ask further questions. I wish I had an artists impression to show you. Maybe someone could help do a cad impression. Does anyone have cad that will create such an image? I expect it will have to be 3D cad.
Cheers,
Bob
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Lloyd
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Re: Circle Cities
* Howe's these models?
I thought a maglev track should go along the inner or outer wall or maybe as a subway.
* By the way, maybe Second Life would be a good place to build your city. What say?
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I thought a maglev track should go along the inner or outer wall or maybe as a subway.
* By the way, maybe Second Life would be a good place to build your city. What say?
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Re: Circle Cities
Nice one on the images, Lloyd. With a bit more work the bottom one would look like Atlantis. 
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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robertcircle1
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Re: Circle Cities
Lloyd wrote:* Howe's these models?
I thought a maglev track should go along the inner or outer wall or maybe as a subway.
* By the way, maybe Second Life would be a good place to build your city. What say?
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2.
Hi Lloyd,
I've not looked into Second Life yet. A friend of mine lives there. Your first picture shows separate buildings arranged in a sort of a circle, the second one is better. The reason for the circle is to utilise the built environment as also a super sort of fence to keep the wildlife in their part (the larger part) and leave alone our food growing part. The way we farm at present can cause rat and mouse and deer and rabbit etc population explosions and deplete our food supplies, especially in poorer regions where they can't afford adequate fencing. It is very difficult to keep out everything except with the circle city idea. Birds and flying insects could still be a problem but there are ways of dealing with them without necessarily harming them.
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By the way on a different subject, I just looked at a thing on here about the temperature of Venus. Maybe it hasn't cooled down as much as Earth for a number of reasons, like maybe it started out hotter or there is more radioactive decay going on, but the heavy cloud cover could be holding in a lot of heat even if it's not letting in a great deal from the Sun.
Cheers,
Bob
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Lloyd
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Re: Circle Cities
* Bob, those models were the best I could find on the internet so far. In the first model it was just the outer wall that I thought gave a hint of what you envision.
* I mentioned your circle city idea on Craigslist on the Computer forum and 2 people said they're interested in helping to build a virtual city somewhere like at Second Life.
* I posted the above description at http://sci.lefora.com/2009/05/27/earth-colonies/page1 where people don't have to sign in. I thought I'd invite them there first, just to read the description. Then I'd ask where might be the best place to collaborate.
* I'll tell them about this discussion too. I'll also try to start another thread on CL to see if others will be interested.
* If anyone else here on the TB forum knows a good place to build a virtual city, please let us know.
* At the link above I called the thread Earth Colonies. I thought I'd start similar threads for Moon Colonies, Mars Colonies etc.
* I mentioned your circle city idea on Craigslist on the Computer forum and 2 people said they're interested in helping to build a virtual city somewhere like at Second Life.
* I posted the above description at http://sci.lefora.com/2009/05/27/earth-colonies/page1 where people don't have to sign in. I thought I'd invite them there first, just to read the description. Then I'd ask where might be the best place to collaborate.
* I'll tell them about this discussion too. I'll also try to start another thread on CL to see if others will be interested.
* If anyone else here on the TB forum knows a good place to build a virtual city, please let us know.
* At the link above I called the thread Earth Colonies. I thought I'd start similar threads for Moon Colonies, Mars Colonies etc.
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Re: Circle Cities
* Here's a cross-sectional view of part of the circle city, according to my understanding of it. It may not be what Bob had in mind. I made this on Paint, then modified it on Photobucket and linked to it. I haven't figured out how to make the image bigger yet.
* I don't know if Bob had an equilateral triangle cross-section in mind. The tree on the right represents the nut trees that he mentioned. The stuff directly under the outer glass roof is vegetation.
* I don't know if Bob had an equilateral triangle cross-section in mind. The tree on the right represents the nut trees that he mentioned. The stuff directly under the outer glass roof is vegetation.
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robertcircle1
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Re: Circle Cities
Hi Lloyd,Lloyd wrote:* Here's a cross-sectional view of part of the circle city, according to my understanding of it. It may not be what Bob had in mind. I made this on Paint, then modified it on Photobucket and linked to it. I haven't figured out how to make the image bigger yet.
* I don't know if Bob had an equilateral triangle cross-section in mind. The tree on the right represents the nut trees that he mentioned. The stuff directly under the outer glass roof is vegetation.
Your diagram is similar to my earlier attempts at a design (great minds...). The best way to describe the cross section is like a napolean hat almost. The arcade on top gives a curved top, then both sides flare out and up again to form a large gutter on each side, then a sheer drop each side of about ten or twelve feet. Under the arcade is the apartments level, under that two or three levels of utility rooms, workshops, stores etc, and in the basement there are water pipes and stuff to make the place work. I could try Paint, but I'm not good at freehand stuff. CAD of some sort would be helpful. Maybe there is a freeCAD of some sort. I'll take a look.
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I should mention that the body of the structure is more akin to a steel hulled ship than a conventional building, and with a curved bottom it floats in the ground, no foundations. The curve can be simple or compound if you know what I mean, like a normal hull almost. If it sits thirty or more feet in the ground and is two hundred feet wide nothing would dig that far under it.
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It will be earthquake proof, tornado proof, hurricane proof and almost impossible to burn down or flood.
Cheers,
Bob
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robertcircle1
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Re: Circle Cities
Hi Lloyd,Lloyd wrote:Like this?
I just tried to paste in an image but messed it up and lost what I'd written and have now run out of time. How do you paste an image in?
Cheers,
Bob
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Re: Circle Cities
TO PASTE AN IMAGE:
* Enter the URL of the image, then highlight the URL, then click Img in the menu above the text box.
* Enter the URL of the image, then highlight the URL, then click Img in the menu above the text box.
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