Cosmological red shift as energy loss with distance, E=hf

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J485P
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Cosmological red shift as energy loss with distance, E=hf

Unread post by J485P » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:06 am

It seems to me that cosmological red shift is just a result of energy loss with distance, E=hf, as electromagnetic radiation, light, looses energy with distance travelled through aether. The Thunderbolts project usually mentions another model, one with "young quasars" or something like that but Occam's razor and so on, if light travels through a medium, it ought to loose energy with distance, and if it does then there ought to be red shift with distance. The only parameter really is the proposition that electromagnetic waves loose energy when travelling through aether, measurable across cosmic distance, seen in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field.

Very very simple model.

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Re: Cosmological red shift as energy loss with distance, E=h

Unread post by hlg » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:21 pm

"...if light travels through a medium, it ought to loose energy with distance, and if it does then there ought to be red shift with distance. The only parameter really is the proposition that electromagnetic waves loose energy when travelling through aether, measurable across cosmic distance, seen in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field.

Very very simple model."

a bit too simple perhaps.

relation between aether and light should be thought of like transversal waves in the aether (or aethers?) very similar to a stone thrown in a lake. the surface shows the waves propagating from the impact-point.

these waves do not alter their frequency when propagating, as far as i know...

the amplitude is decreasing with distance to the impact point, since the energy (m.g.h) of the ever longer circumferences of the wave-rings is always constant...

in an ideal aether there should be no decrease in radiated energy overall, but the receivable energy for a given receiver is always decreasing with the 2nd power to the distance from the source...

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Re: Cosmological red shift as energy loss with distance, E=h

Unread post by crawler » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:12 pm

J485P wrote:It seems to me that cosmological red shift is just a result of energy loss with distance, E=hf, as electromagnetic radiation, light, looses energy with distance travelled through aether. The Thunderbolts project usually mentions another model, one with "young quasars" or something like that but Occam's razor and so on, if light travels through a medium, it ought to loose energy with distance, and if it does then there ought to be red shift with distance. The only parameter really is the proposition that electromagnetic waves loose energy when travelling through aether, measurable across cosmic distance, seen in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. Very very simple model.
A photon is an excitation of aether. This excitation propagates at c kmps. The excitation is constant (for ever almost) & suffers no loss of any kind (untill the end)(when the photon is annihilated, in electrons & quarks). In effect a photon is a non-ending creation of quantum energy (untill the end).

Gravity is too a process, & it too is a non-ending creation of quantum energy. But it is due to the simple bulk flow (acceleration) of aether into mass (where the aether is annihilated) (Ranzan).

But re redshift & energy loss with distance, Ranzan in one of his papers explains this as being due to the photon being stretched as it approaches mass & then stretched again as it departs mass, ie as the photon travels throo the cosmos.

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Re: Cosmological red shift as energy loss with distance, E=h

Unread post by fencewalker » Thu May 30, 2019 12:13 pm

red shift and doppler affect depends on the velocity of the source relative to the observer, modifying the perceived frequency.
e=hf was planck's attempt at defining the smallest possible energy similar to how atoms used to be considered indivisible or irreducable.

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