Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
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by tholden » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:30 am
Rami Bar Ilan strikes again... MSL area, 984, an item which could not conceivably be construed as anything natural. The item bears a superficial resemblance to a tank but I don't picture it being any sort of a tank or self-propelled gun; the armor on a tank wants to deflect projectiles away freely and that shroud would prevent that.
NASA/JPL image:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images ... 1_DXXX.jpg
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by tholden » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:32 am
Also no reasonable way to think this amounts to anything owned or belonging to NASA or USAF.....
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by D_Archer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:35 am
That is a rock.
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by Grey Cloud » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:05 am
D_Archer wrote:That is a rock.
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A rock on Mars, surely not?

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by tholden » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:29 am
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by tholden » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:23 am
If somebody who isn't on my ignore list has any sort of a question about this one, I'll be happy to try to answer it.
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by Grey Cloud » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:29 am
tholden wrote:If somebody who isn't on my ignore list has any sort of a question about this one, I'll be happy to try to answer it.
Thank you for the intelligent and mature response to my foolish and immature questions.
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by 432hz » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:14 am
<moderator edit> No way anyone looks at that and sees ANYTHING other than a rock. <moderator edit>
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by nick c » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:54 am
It looks like a rock to me too, however I feel no need to launch an ad hominem attack.
Several disrespectful and insulting posts have been removed.
Posters should stick to the issues and debate with facts, observations, and logic.
If the only thing you can contribute is sarcastic ridicule then it is better that you refrain from participating in this thread.
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by tholden » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:39 am
nick c wrote:
Several disrespectful and insulting posts have been removed....
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Thank you. One of the reasons why FaceBook has largely supplanted forums like this one is that FB offers better tools for dealing with people who you don't really want to deal with, particularly, when I block somebody on FaceBook, then they no longer see anything I post and I no longer see anything they post. If I could do that with "Grey-Cloud(TM)" and two or three others like him on this forum, I might be a bit more inclined to post here occasionally.
Other than that, this is not a rock:
There is no shortage of things on Mars which look like rocks because they ARE rocks. But you are not doing yourself any favors or the thunderbolts group any favors by going on trying to claim that all of these other things are rocks. There are a baker's dozen Facebook groups dedicated to going over all of these MSL images pixel by pixsel and that would not be happening if all anybody was seeing were rocks.
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by Grey Cloud » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:13 am
Okay. So I ask the questions again. Do you have a scale for the images and where on the NASA image is this 'anomaly' supposed to be?
Are these not legitimate questions?
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by flyingcloud » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:28 am
Indeed

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is all I see. And can't tell where to look in the NASA image either.
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by tholden » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:11 pm
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by Grey Cloud » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:21 pm
Okay. And the scale? What vehicle(?) is taking the photos?
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