Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
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JHL
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by JHL » Thu May 19, 2016 4:58 am
And look. There's half a calcified avocado in the lower right! There it is, right next to the miniature Great Pyramid of Giza with the solid titanium sphere on top!
At least you got this nonsense in the right forum category this time.
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by willendure » Thu May 19, 2016 8:19 am
No way.
That is definitely a weasel, not a squirrel.
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by tholden » Thu May 19, 2016 9:41 am
JHL wrote:And look. There's half a calcified avocado in the lower right! There it is, right next to the miniature Great Pyramid of Giza with the solid titanium sphere on top!
At least you got this nonsense in the right forum category this time.
Hint: You're not as cute, or as smart, or as funny as you imagine yourself to be.
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by tholden » Thu May 19, 2016 9:47 am
Small rodent of some sort, I'm GUESSING that he views himself as a ground squirrel and would probably try to use the ground squirrel restroom and not the restrooms for hamsters or gophers, but I could be wrong on that.
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by JHL » Thu May 19, 2016 9:50 am
The remarkable thing about all this - aside from the sheer, inherent implausibility - is the bigger picture. Take a look at the Martian wasteland. Let it really sink in. No foolish peering around with a magnifying glass with no scale on it.
Now ask yourself a question. With earth housing seven billion people and having a human civilization going back tens of thousands of years, would you ever expect to reasonably find dishwasher parts or fast food boxes or Ikea furniture or abandoned underground hobbit burrows by examining a wide-field view of the Gobi Desert with 3x magnifying glasses and a web browser with a zoom function?
Or interior Australia? Or even the middle of agricultural Kansas?
Get a grip, man. You
might one day find a lug nut lying in the Alberta plains but let me ask you, would you ever posit evidence of mankind by way of a bloody random search of the remotest Canadian terrain? Then why in the name of all that's reasonable would you expect that to plausibly be
a single fossilized squirrel on Mars?!
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by JHL » Thu May 19, 2016 9:57 am
tholden wrote:Hint: You're not as cute, or as smart, or as funny as you imagine yourself to be.
The magnitude of my pulchritude aside, has it occurred to you that if
I can poke a hole through this dumb Lost Martian Civilization meme it must be all that much more preposterous to folks with associated scientific backgrounds?
Or that if you're keen enough to spot my obvious lack of intellect from clear across the Web, how is it you still believe in this foolishness? I mean, a stone yard ornament squirrel
on Mars.
Was it a
flying squirrel?
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by kevin » Thu May 19, 2016 10:20 am
tholden wrote:
Small rodent of some sort, I'm GUESSING that he views himself as a ground squirrel and would probably try to use the ground squirrel restroom and not the restrooms for hamsters or gophers, but I could be wrong on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_q4S7lZeik
They rest up in biscuit tins.
Handy for a quick nibble, now and then.
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by tholden » Sat May 21, 2016 9:25 am
JHL wrote:
The remarkable thing about all this - aside from the sheer, inherent implausibility - is the bigger picture. Take a look at the Martian wasteland. Let it really sink in........
Get a grip, man. You
might one day find a lug nut lying in the Alberta plains but let me ask you, would you ever posit evidence of mankind by way of a bloody random search of the remotest Canadian terrain? Then why in the name of all that's reasonable would you expect that to plausibly be
a single fossilized squirrel on Mars?!
Somebody who didn't know any better could get the false impression that you knew what you were talking about.
The squirrel is not fossilized, he's lying there in the mid-day sun getting some good vitamin D for himself before he goes back underground where he spends most of his time. A fossilized squirrel would not look like that at all.
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by kevin » Sat May 21, 2016 10:38 am
tholden wrote:JHL wrote:
The remarkable thing about all this - aside from the sheer, inherent implausibility - is the bigger picture. Take a look at the Martian wasteland. Let it really sink in........
Get a grip, man. You
might one day find a lug nut lying in the Alberta plains but let me ask you, would you ever posit evidence of mankind by way of a bloody random search of the remotest Canadian terrain? Then why in the name of all that's reasonable would you expect that to plausibly be
a single fossilized squirrel on Mars?!
Somebody who didn't know any better could get the false impression that you knew what you were talking about.
The squirrel is not fossilized, he's lying there in the mid-day sun getting some good vitamin D for himself before he goes back underground where he spends most of his time. A fossilized squirrel would not look like that at all.
Sorry for taking the Micky ( mouse) somewhat.
If You could produce another time picture without Your rodent present???
Then I would be all ears.....like Micky.
Kevin
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by Grey Cloud » Sat May 21, 2016 10:52 am
I once saw Satan's face in a cloud. [Did I say that aloud?]
If it's a squirrel, where is its tail and what a coincidence that it resembles a North American squirrel and not the European variety. Maybe if the ESA put something on Mars they will find a red squirrel.
Thought: If there were squirrels then there would be stuff that squirrels eat and there would be things that eat squirrels.
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by Maol » Sat May 21, 2016 11:38 am
JHL wrote:And look. There's half a calcified avocado in the lower right! There it is, right next to the miniature Great Pyramid of Giza with the solid titanium sphere on top!
At least you got this nonsense in the right forum category this time.
I think the "avocado" is half of a sliced strawberry, and the upper half is right there just above it, under the right-hand end of the red arrow. Or maybe it's a Brazil Nut. Squirrels like nuts.

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by Grey Cloud » Sat May 21, 2016 1:19 pm
Maol wrote:JHL wrote:And look. There's half a calcified avocado in the lower right! There it is, right next to the miniature Great Pyramid of Giza with the solid titanium sphere on top!
At least you got this nonsense in the right forum category this time.
I think the "avocado" is half of a sliced strawberry, and the upper half is right there just above it, under the right-hand end of the red arrow. Or maybe it's a Brazil Nut. Squirrels like nuts.

I'm with you on the strawberry. The scale is wrong for an avocado. This is assuming that Martian strawberries and avocados are the same size as the Earth versions. Same is true for squirrels of course.
Personally, I'm leaning towards Kevin's hamster theory. This would help explain why the Martian landscape is made up of biscuit crumbs - sorry, cookie crumbs.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
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by tholden » Sat May 21, 2016 5:46 pm
Grey Cloud wrote:
Thought: If there were squirrels then there would be stuff that squirrels eat and there would be things that eat squirrels.
There are.
Unless some catastrophe were to annihilate a planet like Mars altogether, it is not going to kill all the bug, all the mice and rats, all of the small predators which eat mice and rats....
Several of the MSL images show small orange/red wooly-bullies, weasels or foxes or some such, one trying to decide whether or not to try chewing on the wiring harness of the rover itself.

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