Subject: The Father God
I have earlier made a post about the Mother Goddess by the example of goddess Hathor above. Here, the Father God is exemplified by the Roman God, Saturn or Saturnus. Link from - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_%28mythology%29
“Saturn (Latin: Saturnus Latin pronunciation: [saˈtʊr.nʊs]) is a god in ancient Roman religion, and a character in myth. Saturn is a complex figure because of his multiple associations and long history. He was the first god of the Capitol, known since the most ancient times as Saturnius Mons”.
Comparative Mythologist and other scholars have great difficulties with placing the prime deities. Mostly, these prime deities are in different encyclopedia and numerous books ascribed to the Sun, Moon and to the Solar System planets, whereby all kind of contradictive and contraintuitive interpretations and explanations of both the myths and their astronomical connections takes place.
An example of the problems of interpreting the ancient myths:
“Saturn the Ancient Sun God”, by David Talbott. Link -
“Indeed, the consistency with which early astronomies identity Saturn as the former creator-king is extraordinary. The Zoroastrians of ancient Persia knew Saturn as the heaven-sustaining Zurvãn, "the King and Lord of the Long Dominion." The Iranian god-king Yima, a transcript of the Hindu Yama, founder of the Golden Age, was also linked to Saturn. The Chinese mythical emperor Huang-ti, first in a great dynasty of kings and mythical founder of the Taoist religion, was identified astronomically as the planet Saturn. Even the Tahitians recall of the god Fetu-tea, the planet Saturn, that he "was the King."
My comment: Of course can the prime male deity of creation in all cultures be compared as the author does very excellent here. But then the author concludes all these cultural and superior deities of creation to be connected with planet Saturn, which hardly and logically cannot be the fact. Planet Saturn is obviously not the prime deity of creation who creates everything in the ancient known world if taking the mythical context seriously.
Quotes from “THE MYTH OF THE CENTRAL SUN”, By David Talbott. Link:
# 1: “Nothing misrepresents original meanings more profoundly than the common translations of Egyptian texts relative to the daily cycle of the sun god. In the language of the Egyptians themselves, the god does not rise and set, but grows bright and dims. He shines brightly, then his light recedes”.
# 2. “What, then, of the famous Assyrian and Babylonian god Shamash, the sun god whom we now recognize as Saturn? A remarkable fact is that Shamash "comes forth" (shines) and "goes in" (declines, diminishes) at one spot, the "firm," "stable" or motionless station of supreme "rest".
My comments to #1-2:
This is not a "misrepresenting of the original meaning". This is a misconception derived from the lack of astronomical observation routines by the interpretors. Several issues are wrong:
1. It is not a myth of "the central sun" since it deals with the central celestial pole.
2. It is not a "sun-god", because the mythical figure in question does not rise and set as the Sun.
3. It is not planet Saturn assumingly hovering close over the celestial pole, since the myths speaks specifically of a male gendered god figure in itself, which periodically appears and disappears
4. It doesn´t deal with the "daily cycle of the Sun", but with the annual cycle of the Earth´s orbit around the Sun.
5. It deals with a mythical and celestial male looking gendered figure, which is moving around a stationary celestial location where it grows lighter and dimmer.
All these mythological/astronomical/cosmological confusions takes place all over, including in different encyclopedia´s where scholars just copy and repeat what former authors didn´t observe for themselves in the Sky.
The Mythological and Astronomical explanation of the mytho-cosmological Saturn/Saturnus God is:
As the Earth orbits the Sun, the celestial imagery of the night changes throughout the seasons because of the changing altitude of the Sun. All celestial starry objects grows dimmer and disappears as the Sun ascends, and for some 3-4 months in the summer season, the stars, the constellations and the contours of the Milky Way disappears until the Sun descends later in the season.
This astronomical fact is embedded in the cosmological myths and it gives origin to the global mytheme of "The Departure and Return of the Celestial Deities". This explanation fits logically with the mythical description in the quotes above.
Just by taking the very mythical context of the Saturnus God for granted, anyone who goes out in the night and watch the celestial imagery at a favorable season, can conclude which celestial figure we are talking about: The crescent Milky Way male looking figure which is revolving around the celestial pole, growing dimmer and lighter as the Sun ascends and descends throughout the year.
Star Atlas. The primary God Saturnus/Shamash etc. etc. revolving at his celestial station (the celestial pole) growing lighter and dimmer as the Sun ascends and descends in the annual cycle.