Peratt's plasma figures as a proto-alphabet?

[paladin17]

Hello everyone.

Did someone in the EU field did some research on the connections between Peratt's figures and symbolic languages (including alphabet)? Because I just came up with hypothesis that the former could have had been the physical specimens for the alphabetical letters (or any other symbolical figures).
A couple of days ago I was reviewing "Symbols of ...", and mr. Talbott said there that the rock art figures in the neolithic age became utterly weird, awkward, angular. I also read somewhere on the net, that it is the neolithic age that gave birth to symbolism in itself.

So probably the alphabet also emerged during that age, - when all those plasma catastrophies began. People weren't having this idyllic worldview (that they have had in the paleolithic age - with all those colourful animal paintings) anymore at that time. They began to abstract from reality, which was pretty much filled with horror (and probably death and suffering). So some sort of psychic sublimation occurred, and later those symbols began to be used as an alphabet, as signs of some super-reality (abstract thinking, logic, mathematics etc.) or something.

I know that we probably don't have any "written" sources of neolithic age to prove that they have had an alphabet, but nevertheless. When I look at the runes or Orkhon script, for example, I can't help recognizing the same "stick-figure" patterns.
Maybe the timing is somehow wrong. You probably remember the recent studies (see here and here), that said, that the rock art actually could have been more recent. So maybe that will do the trick, along with some Fomenko's ideas.

One more point that I would like to make is that Robert Schoch says about rongorongo, - that it looks like an "animation" of Peratt's figures. But most people think it is an alphabet. I think this particular situation is very interesting in the context of this subject.

Would love to hear any feedback on this.

Thanks for your attention.

[seasmith]

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Paladin17,

It would probably help a lot in making the connections you are proposing
if we knew the Sounds that were being heard, while the plasma displays were lighting up the skies.
[Sounds are mentioned often in the ancient myths, but aren't really catalogued.]

All of the letter symbols in the (English) alphabet can be intimately linked with the particular sounds evoked,
And with the producing Shapes of the audio-oral cavity, (i.e. mouth/ lips/ teeth-to-lips/ palette, etc.)

At first the evocative sounds were portrayed as pictures; then pictographs, archetypal shapes/runes/hieroglyphs & etc, and finally abstracted as alphabets;
(a history of which can be traced back through mesopotamia and it's russo-eurasian roots).

It seems likely however, that 'speech' was first, because it still continues to evolve;
as phonon/letters are combined and modulated to create ever-increasingly more complex words and concepts.

It wouldn't be surprising, imo, if the plasma displays and sounds emitted
shared an archetypal foundation with letters and speech...

[paladin17]

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Paladin17,

It would probably help a lot in making the connections you are proposing
if we knew the Sounds that were being heard, while the plasma displays were lighting up the skies.
[Sounds are mentioned often in the ancient myths, but aren't really catalogued.]

...

It wouldn't be surprising, imo, if the plasma displays and sounds emitted
shared an archetypal foundation with letters and speech...

Wow, thank you very much, this is a fantastic addition. I haven't thought about that.
Was too excited about the initial idea, probably.
This deserves to be thoroughly digested.

[Bomb20]

I wonder if Rense van der Sluijs or other mythologists discussed this or researched in these field as well, following the idea of Mr Schochs wife. The idea is admittedly very attractive. However, it is hard to say where proto-alphabets or writing starts and scientists have hard arguments or at least doubts in many examples.

Examples:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2956925.stm

http://oppermann.twoday.net/stories/ael ... nb/comment

[seasmith]

Bomb20 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:28 am

I wonder if Rense van der Sluijs ,,,

Rens has a contact button on his website:


http://mythopedia.info

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[Dyrnwyn]

http://imgur.com/ZO4YtcP

This is the evolution of the Chinese character which means "word" or "to speak." The far left is Oracle Bone Script, which was found to be in use in the late 2nd millennium BC (who can be sure when it was first used?). To me there's something very Peratt Column-like about it, and the idea that plasma formations would have made sounds, tied with the Biblical "in the beginning was the Word," is tantalizing.