Plasma and the Military

[bboyer]

Just a question. I described Haarp to a friend as EU in practice. I was chastised for making everything EU. It was pointed out that the device uses microwaves, not electricity. For me the microwaves are produced with electricity. When the microwaves are aimed at the Ionosphere you get more energy back than inserted, i believe. Wouldn't that be EU.

Possibly TOO EU, michael

Sounds as if your friend may be demonstrating a bit of cognitive dissonance in that hearing the word electrical s/he thinks 50/60hz toasters, lamps, automotive systems, computer innards, and everything hardwired. Electric Universe, ElectroMagnetic Universe, Vibrational Universe, Motive Frequency Universe ... by any other name, the rose smells as sweet.

[junglelord]

We are taught the EM radiation extends in frequency from Radio Waves to Gamma Rays and everything in between.
So your friend is not aware that Microwaves are EM radiation, thats what his statement tells me.
Its all photons with different frequencies as the picture above illustrates.

[Lloyd]

Starbiter said: I described Haarp to a friend as EU in practice. I was chastised for making everything EU. It was pointed out that the device uses microwaves, not electricity. For me the microwaves are produced with electricity. When the microwaves are aimed at the Ionosphere you get more energy back than inserted, i believe. Wouldn't that be EU.

* Microwaves are part of the same EM spectrum, as shown by JL, that contains light, radio waves, x-rays etc. Electricity or electrical forces are plasma phenomena, but the EM spectrum is not. I don't recall ever hearing that the ionosphere reflects back more microwaves than reach it from HAARP and similar antenna arrays. If you can provide a source that says that, I'd like to know what the source is and what it says exactly. I can believe that such an increase in microwaves by reflection from the plasma ionosphere may be possible, but I think it's unlikely. And I would not regard the reflected microwaves themselves as EU or electrical effects exactly. The videos, though, do suggest that possible EU effects do accompany HAARP transmissions at least some of the time. And, of course, HAARP does appear to trigger EU effects, since weather conditions and earthquakes are likely EU effects.
* My previous post on Haiti and HAARP was initially submitted as a new topic, but for some reason someone decided to move it here under this topic. Now I'm afraid very few will see my post and appreciate what remarkable facts are presented in the videos I referenced there and the important possibility they suggest that such disasters may sometimes be manmade for evil purposes, such as genocide, which seems to be easy to accomplish these days.

[starbiter]

Concerning small input for large output.


Weather Control
Avalanches of energy dislodged by such radio waves could hit us hard. Their work suggests that technicians could control global weather by sending relatively small 'signals' into the Van Allen belts (radiation belts around Earth). Thus Tesla's resonance effects can control enormous energies by tiny triggering signals.
The Begich/ Manning book asks whether that knowledge will be used by war-oriented or biosphere-oriented scientists.

http://www.haarp.net/

[junglelord]

I want to state that I do not think that HAARP had anything to do with Hati's earthquake.
However concerning non-liner physics,

Concerning small input for large output.

The military does have technology that does this very thing, its called Star Wars Technology.
If you want to follow a missle and shoot it down with a beam, it requires a Phase Conjugate Non-Linear Device to pull that off. Run away is one of the issues with Phase Conjugation, both within the equipment and the field itself.

This non-linear property has blown up a lot of test equipment from Tesla to modern Phase Conjugation Research.

HAARP is possibly one of those devices that can be used to make beam technology for Star Wars type missle defense. You have to admit, its not a military device unless it has military implications.
I believe it can do more then communicate to submarines.
I do not think they pulled a fast one on Hati.

HAARP Boils the Upper Atmosphere

HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.


" ... at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.

The military says the HAARP system could:


Give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986)

Replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology

Be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system

Provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military's own communications systems working

Provide a wide area earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements

Be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area

Be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete
http://www.haarp.net/

[jjohnson]

Starbiter wrote:
Just a question. I described Haarp to a friend as EU in practice. I was chastised for making everything EU. It was pointed out that the device uses microwaves, not electricity. For me the microwaves are produced with electricity. When the microwaves are aimed at the Ionosphere you get more energy back than inserted, i believe. Wouldn't that be EU?

For the last paragraph, it might be classed as an EU phenomenon, but it reads more like OU (over unity). If EU then it needs a plausible explanation such as, "a microwave beam with sufficient energy (eV > 100) can strip electrons off intervening matter (ionize it, in other words), preparing a conductive pathway from a charged area in the ionosphere to the microwave emitter." This seems a little too close to Ben Franklin's kite experiments using a Leyden jar, a key tied to a wet string and a thunderstorm. Moral: try a remote microwave transmitter station. Very remote.

By the way, on Aviation Week ( http://www.aviationweek.com ) last week there was a story of a joint Israeli-U.S. Army missile defense test which successfully tracked and near-simultaneously destroyed two short range missiles using a directed beam weapon, which in military parlance means a high-energy IR frequency laser, usually for practical matters a chemical laser such as iodine-oxygen. The airborne ballistic missile defense laser, mounted on a 747 variant is of similar construction. It has been under development for maybe a decade now, but may end up not being bought due to "funding difficulties". This is not R&D; it's engineering applications getting the bugs out of real stuff, "practical" or not.

Jim

[junglelord]

This presentation was likely at McDonnell Douglas Aircraft, as Bearden refers to Jack Houck, who used to work for them.

If what Bearden says is true, then how has the technology advanced since 1985?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONXMWfD ... re=related

[MrAmsterdam]

Probably the militairy are using this kind of plasma technology for a long time now.
There are rumours out there stating the american B2 bomber is using plasma aerodynamics

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/future-00o.html

http://defensetech.org/2006/04/03/glowi ... n-bombers/

but do a search on google with "plasma aerodynamics" and you will find a lot...