The Architecture of Time in the EU

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Robbie_G » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:16 pm

Photons are the exchange particle of the electro-magnetic force and because of this they are not emitted randomly into space but only emitted by the source atom when a receiving atom has been first established.

What this means in terms of linear time is that when you go out tonight to observe a star 1 million light years away that the emitting atom determined to send this photon to your eye 1 million light years before you were even born. This determination is only explainable with the concept of quantum entanglement and that light operates in non-linear time.

Light interactions seem to define the direction of the flow of time. Light is always received from the past and never from the future. For light exchange to work as it does all atoms if not particles in the universe must be entangled on the quantum scale in non-linear time! Time is then a result of the EU!
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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by comingfrom » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:08 am

Seems to me you are unnecessarily complicating it, Robbie.

Time isn't a thing.
It doesn't flow.

Time is simply our measure of the duration of an event, or events.
And we have set up our measures.
The time it takes the hand on a clock to move to the next mark.
The time it takes for the earth to make one rotation.
The time it takes for the earth to complete one orbit of the Sun.
To name some.

When we are measuring time, we are comparing the duration of a known event, with the duration of the observed event.

The time it takes for light to travel in one year is a distance.
1 million light years is a distance.

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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by D_Archer » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:50 am

Robbie_G wrote:Photons are the exchange particle of the electro-magnetic force and because of this they are not emitted randomly into space but only emitted by the source atom when a receiving atom has been first established.

What this means in terms of linear time is that when you go out tonight to observe a star 1 million light years away that the emitting atom determined to send this photon to your eye 1 million light years before you were even born. This determination is only explainable with the concept of quantum entanglement and that light operates in non-linear time.

Light interactions seem to define the direction of the flow of time. Light is always received from the past and never from the future. For light exchange to work as it does all atoms if not particles in the universe must be entangled on the quantum scale in non-linear time! Time is then a result of the EU!
You made an error > "the emitting atom determined"

All matter emits light, there is no thought from an atom in sending it out.

As a general rule do not copy paste ideas from the mainstream, entanglement is nonsense and most of quantum this and that too.

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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Robbie_G » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:32 pm

Paul,

Time is an arrow that indicates the order of and the relative rates at which events unfold. A consequence of Relativity theory is that there are two different types of time, linear and non-linear. In non-linear time everything that ever was, is or ever will be exists simultaneously. To me this seems to be the realm of quantum entanglement. Linear time is the progressive time where the past moments have sequentially lead to the present moment and future moments are to unfold in this same pattern of sequential moments.

Time always flows in the direction from the past to the future. If you look at your friend the photons adsorbed by your eye from his/her face takes time to reach your eye, and so we always observe things in the past tense. If you moved your friend 186,000 miles away it would take 1 second from when the photons were emitted by the atoms in his/her face to reach your eye and the past tense would be larger and more obvious.

We however never speak about observing an object from the future because the sequence for emission always requires that the emitting atom determines which receiving atom it will exchange with. The exact location is determined in irrational time through quantum entanglement. The emitting atom always has to exist first and the receiving atom always has to exist later in the exact linear time/place detected that it would manifest. There is no way around this, and it is philosophically suggestive of determinism.

And so the direction of time is determined by the flow of photons in rational time from the moment of emitter to the receiver. This also means that in irrational time, light energy can only be carried forward, never backward. So even irrational time has a direction.

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Unread post by JHL » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:57 pm

[E]xperiments ... [point] to quantum mechanical effects as the key to the ability of green plants, through photosynthesis, to almost instantaneously transfer solar energy from molecules in light harvesting complexes to molecules in electrochemical reaction centers. ... [A] new collaborative team ... have identified entanglement as a natural feature of these quantum effects. When two quantum-sized particles, for example a pair of electrons, are “entangled,” any change to one will be instantly reflected in the other, no matter how far apart they might be. Though physically separated, the two particles act as a single entity.

“This is the first study to show that entanglement, perhaps the most distinctive property of quantum mechanical systems, is present across an entire light harvesting complex,” says Mohan Sarovar, a post-doctoral researcher under UC Berkeley chemistry professor Birgitta Whaley at the Berkeley Center for Quantum Information and Computation.

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Green plants and certain bacteria are able to transfer the energy harvested from sunlight through a network of light harvesting pigment-protein complexes and into reaction centers with nearly 100-percent efficiency. Speed is the key – the transfer of the solar energy takes place so fast that little energy is wasted as heat. In 2007, Fleming and his research group reported the first direct evidence that this essentially instantaneous energy transfer was made possible by a remarkably long-lived, wavelike electronic quantum coherence.

Using electronic spectroscopy measurements made on a femtosecond (millionths of a billionth of a second) time-scale, Fleming and his group discovered the existence of “quantum beating” signals, coherent electronic oscillations in both donor and acceptor molecules. These oscillations are generated by the excitation energy from captured solar photons, like the waves formed when stones are tossed into a pond. The wavelike quality of the oscillations enables them to simultaneously sample all the potential energy transfer pathways in the photosynthetic system and choose the most efficient.
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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Robbie_G » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:43 pm

JHL,

Interesting...

It takes 8.5 minutes for sunlight to reach a plant. Quantum entanglement determined that the plant would receive the photon 8.5 minutes before it was emitted. So does the plant sense the photon and prepare for it because of the instantaneous quantum connection 8.5 minutes previous? If it did this would be the source of intelligence and decision making(predicting the future)?

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Unread post by Cargo » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:30 pm

Robbie_G wrote:Paul,

Time is an arrow that indicates the order of and the relative rates at which events unfold. A consequence of Relativity theory ..........

~Robert
This is just magical mind games to dazzle and distract from Reality which is not relative.
Time is not a force in the universe. It does not exist as anything other then a construct we use to measure things.
It is beyond reality to say that time flows, or as direction, or there is some fabric of time in the universe as if it some field of matter.

This Relativity Theory has been abused and mangled beyond all reason and should be recycled.
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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Robbie_G » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:33 pm

Cargo,

Argue with Smolin!

https://youtu.be/6Hi4VbERDyI

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Unread post by Cargo » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:59 pm

That's hilarious. I feel sorry for this person Lee Smolin. The solution to World Problems, Social and Political, is a restructure of natural physical laws to include Time as a fabric we need to wrap ourselves in so we can think better of our place in the Universe more comfortable for Soylent Green to succeed.

Give this guy a wheelchair and a sad disease. He'll be on Time Magazine in no time.

I'm surprised no one laughed. They must have been too stunned by the false illusion being proposed.
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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Webbman » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:53 am

Time is the movement of a wave on the aether where the aether is strands of force, and the waves on these strands we perceive as energy which can be aligned as magnetism and electricity, unaligned as heat, and made into matter and light by forming rings or closed loops to contain the waves.

Thus the constant time is the period it takes for a wave to move at the speed of the electric force to move along one aether unit defined as one strand, which are also constant.

the only three constants you need to explain everything else as everything else is derived from this.

At least the way I see it. :)
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Unread post by willendure » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:46 am

Here's my mad idea:

The universe is both a physical manifestation and a simulation of itself at the same time. What I mean by this, is that if we know the state of matter now, we can perform computation to arrive at what the state of matter will be a small time-step ahead of now. The best computer for running this simulation on, is the universe itself.

QED unifies the forces except gravity - the universe is composed of interacting charges which is what needs to be 'computed'.

In areas where matter is scarce, the amount of computation is less. In areas where it is dense, there is more to compute. This dense computation takes longer, so in order to keep up, time has be slowed down. This is why time moves more slowly under gravity, and is the root cause of the bending of space-time described by Einstein, and it gives rise to gravity as a side-effect.

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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by kevin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:41 am

Tempus fugit.
Light is not travelling, it occurs.
There is no light in space.
it needs two to tango ( entangle)
The so called speed of light (C) is the net difference in phase conjugate wave patterns

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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by Robbie_G » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:29 pm

Kevin,

Interesting because a quantum leap is said to be instantaneous. But I think it's about your reference frame when you say that there is no light in space. From an irrational time perspective it seems true, but not from a linear time perspective. I think you are confusing the two?

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Unread post by LunarSabbathTruth » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:13 pm

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like bananas.
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Re: The Architecture of Time in the EU

Unread post by IgorTesla » Mon May 02, 2016 8:40 pm

I am sad to see that people genuinly believe time has properties.
One might as well state that speed itself is a wave since it's measured in a variety of ways, yet speed itself does not exists. It's simply made up by us to help us understand the velocity of objects and such.

The same is true for time.

By introducing the terms past, present and future we give time a body but time itself does not exists, yet it is a usefull tool to inform us of the status of an object in relation to something else.

When we say the word "timetravel" most people think of going back or forth in time. But we could also say that time is travelling itself, which is something completely different. In either case it's both not possible since time does not exists.

Time, speed, distance, weight etc ... are all tools to measure stuff but are no where near a cosmological force or entity, they are simply words without physical mass, energy or any status whatsoever.

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