The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:29 pm

Possible Detection of a Black Hole So Big It ‘Should Not Exist’
https://www.quantamagazine.org/possible ... -20190828/

To Make Two Black Holes Collide, Try Three
https://www.quantamagazine.org/to-make- ... -20190815/
The spiraling dance of a pair of colliding black holes should last for billions of years.
Yet we’ve caught about 10 black hole collisions since 2016 — far more than we would expect.


With more and more "detections", it becomes more likely that this was all simply nothing.

But I predict much more nonsense to come.

Like: Black holes from parallel universes.
Or: Dark matter black holes.
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Roshi » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:23 am

Zyxzevn wrote:But I predict much more nonsense to come.

Like: Black holes from parallel universes.
Or: Dark matter black holes.


No way.
Dark matter has gravity, but it itself is immune to gravity.

It can't form stars or planets, it just stays there, as a haze, creating gravity, but not on itself, as mathematically required. It should be called: "most amazing magic matter".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
This artist's impression shows the expected distribution of dark matter in the Milky Way galaxy as a blue halo of material surrounding the galaxy.[47]
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:20 am

Roshi wrote:No way.
Dark matter has gravity, but it itself is immune to gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
Because dark matter has not yet been observed directly, if it exists, it must barely interact with ordinary baryonic matter and radiation, except through gravity.

Seems that wikipedia states that gravity does work.
Am I missing something?
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Aardwolf » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:38 am

Zyxzevn wrote:
Roshi wrote:No way.
Dark matter has gravity, but it itself is immune to gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
Because dark matter has not yet been observed directly, if it exists, it must barely interact with ordinary baryonic matter and radiation, except through gravity.

Seems that wikipedia states that gravity does work.
Am I missing something?
I think the whole sorry mess of dark matter theory is missing something. It's supposed to be collisionless with itself so that when 2 galaxies collide the dark matter carries on regardless, however, why doesn't the dark matter around galaxy A interact with the ordinary matter in galaxy B and vice versa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itfq4CzxZ8

Somehow, the dark matter knows which galaxy it's been assigned to as the 2 galaxies cross each other. As Roshi states, this is very magical stuff.
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Roshi » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:33 am

Zyxzevn wrote:From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
Because dark matter has not yet been observed directly, if it exists, it must barely interact with ordinary baryonic matter and radiation, except through gravity.

Seems that wikipedia states that gravity does work.
Am I missing something?


Wikipedia says "Artist depiction of dark matter as a halo around the galaxy". Why does it stay like a halo instead of forming dark matter stars and planets, because of it's own gravity? Maybe because it's immune to it's own gravity?

(And stars are not formed because of gravity, but nevermind this. Dark matter should listen to the mainstream laws of physics and form stars - because of gravity, it should be easy it's a lot more than ordinary matter.)
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby +EyeOn-W-ANeed2Know » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:23 am

Zyxzevn wrote:Like: Black holes from parallel universes.
Or: Dark matter black holes.


You're close.... but apparently BHs are made of DE.
"George Chapline, a physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, doesn’t expect to see a black hole. He doesn’t believe they’re real. In 2005, he told Nature that “it’s a near certainty that black holes don’t exist” and—building on previous work he’d done with physics Nobel laureate Robert Laughlin—introduced an alternative model that he dubbed “dark energy stars.” "

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/are- ... ergy-stars?
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:48 pm

Mainstream scientists.
Backreaction blog on LIGO:
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... -ligo.html

On false positives, mismatches, sources from Earth, Glitches.

Jackson wrote:Jackson: “The thing you can conclude if you use a template analysis is [...] that the results are consistent with a black hole merger. But in order to make the stronger statement that it really and truly is a black hole merger you have to rule out anything else that it could be.

“And the characteristic signal here is actually pretty generic. What do they find? They find something where the amplitude increases, where the frequency increases, and then everything dies down eventually. And that describes just about every catastrophic event you can imagine. You see, increasing amplitude, increasing frequency, and then it settles into something new state. So they really were obliged to rule out every terrestrial effects, including seismic effects, and the fact that there was an enormous lightning string in Burkina Faso at exactly the same time [...]”
Interviewer: “Do you think that they failed to rule out all these other possibilities?

Jackson: “Yes…”

Backreaction wrote:A Nobel Prize was handed out, and yet we still do not have confirmation that LIGO’s signals are not of terrestrial origin.


As usual the PhD students totally freak out on the internet forum:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20881986
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby +EyeOn-W-ANeed2Know » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:04 am

I was perusing through some of the posts on that forum Zyxzevn,
I got to one that said "I've found GW170817 sufficiently-compelling so as to remove any remaining doubt that LIGO/LVC has seen gravitational waves (They almost certainly discovered the site of the R-process at the same time! What more do you want?). As neutron star observations accumulate, the case will only get more compelling.."

"neutron star observations" ????
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Re: The Gravity wave nonsense pile deepens

Unread postby spark » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:25 am

As long as mainstream science continues to deny the existence of ether, they can never explain what gravity is. Gravity is simply a result of ether flowing towards the earth towards the negative electric charge deep inside the earth. Ether and electromagnetic forces work together to produce gravity on earth, within solar system and galaxy.
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