The assumption that the present positions of the planets tells us anything about when or where they were formed is not warranted.It seems that the distances or periods have changed slightly since the solar system formed but that the planets did form at the nodes of standing electromagnetic waves which have the same periods as solar oscillations.
Planets will quickly assume orbits that ensure the least electrical interaction.
Well your question seems to be nitpicking over semantics. The statement quoted seems to me to be not based on observation or measurement, but rather an assumption based upon the nebular hypothesis for the formation of the solar system.How do you know it's an assumption ?
... Nick if you have the time I would like you too peruse it , I have no prob with being incorrect about my assumptions, but being ignored drives me nuts, cheers mate 
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_97 ... _ceres.pdf
I had noticed you posted that work before in another thread but only glanced at it.kiwi wrote:I"ll give this Doc another shot here ... the SAAD thread has turned into the usual sideshow, with the same "contestants" shoving their personal theory/barrows flat out
“… Johannes Kepler discovered that the solar system was ordered according to certain harmonic principle. Each small part of the solar system, such as a small interval of a planetary orbit, reflected that the same harmonic principle completely. Kepler’s call for the invention of a mathematical concept to measure this self-similarity, provoked G.W. Leibniz to develop infinitesimal calculus.”
So, from the standpoint of “stationary waves” (Tesla’s terminology) as applied to the solar system the overall system as a whole has its integrity and consistency ‘integrated’ with each individual ‘node’ whether harmonious or dissonant. Each ‘node’ is individually able to interact with the others singularly and/or jointly whether ‘relaxing’ or 'inducing' the ‘tensions’ that may occur within the confines of the overall integration.“Unfortunately, in the context of ensuing epistemological warfare, Kepler’s constraints were ripped out of the pages o his works, severing their intimate connection with the harmonic ordering of the solar system as a whole, and finally dubbed “Kepler’s Three Laws.” The resulting “laws,” taken in and of themselves, do not specify which orbits are possible, nor which actually occur, might have occurred, or might occur in the future; nor do they say anything about the character of the planet or object occupying a given orbit.
This flaw did not arise from any error in Kepler’s work per se, but was imposed from the outside. Newton greatly aggravated the problem, when he “invented” Kepler’s constraints, to obtain his “inverse square law” of gravitation, and above all when he chose – for political reasons – to make that “inversion” a vehicle for promoting a radical-empiricist, Sarpian conception of a Universe governed by pair-wise interaction in “empty” space. Pg 36
Reminds of an old interview transcript, "functional thinking with E.P.D.", and Eric mentioning that the "activities", pointed out above, of these subtle distributed circuital constants may very well've been regularly studied in past by radio engineers.Solar wrote:Each ‘node’ is individually able to interact with the others singularly and/or jointly whether ‘relaxing’ or 'inducing' the ‘tensions’ that may occur within the confines of the overall integration.
andEric Dollard wrote:E: When you take the planets like Mercury and Jupiter, which are the
real activity generators, in right angle relationships involving the
earth and the sun then you find that radio reception and electrical
conditions on the earth tend to be disrupted. RCA used this for a
number of years, its called radio astrology. Astronomers refuse to
even talk about it , but you have a big company like Radio Corporation of America basing all their circuit predictions on it . They were big time, too. They had the big time circuits. They had the
patents on radio and they're using astrology. Many old time RCA
employees would talk about how the planets affect people's behavior,
its just common knowledge to them because they have meters right
there where they see these cosmic disturbances, and of course when
they go out on the street or drive home they find that people are
also modified by these various waves that were affecting shortwave
transmission.
Eric Dollard wrote:At this point in history, the sun shone upon this system of communication with disfavor, through the dramatic reduction in solar flux. Lowered solar flux weakens the earth’s ionosphere, thereby diminishing its ability to propagate the launched electro-magnetic waves. While a major setback for HF radio, RCA forced its way through with higher power and larger antennas. The desire to override the competition, in light of the increased crowding of the HF band, forced the use of even higher power. The water could be heard to sing with the Morse code in the pliotron water jackets. Electro-magnetic radio was forever married to the cycles of the sun, undergoing disruption every eleven years. Later, in 1950, RCA scientist Nelson determined that the cycles of the planets also played a major role in radio propagation, requiring the development of radio astrology.
http://www.publish.csiro.au/paper/AS06018.htm"In summation, after more than 25 years of research in this field of solar system science, I can say without equivocation that there is very strong evidence that the planets, when in certain predictable arrangements, do cause changes to take place in those solar radiations that control our ionosphere. I have no solid theory to explain what I have observed, but the similarity between an electric generator with its carefully placed magnets and the sun with its ever-changing planets is intriguing. In the generator, the magnets are fixed and produce a constant electrical current. If we consider that the planets are magnets and the sun is the armature, we have a considerable similarity to the generator. However, in this case, the magnets are moving. For this reason, the electrical-magnetic stability of the solar system varies widely. This is what one would expect."
- John H. Nelson, RCA Communications. Cosmic Patterns. 1974
It seems that the study of cosmic effects on radio propagation does not lend itself easily to modern scientific study and this may have something to do with the fact that it encroaches on two taboo scientific areas:
The obvious first one being its connection to Astrology.
The second is the dogma that nothing but gravity can affect the earth or the sun at planetary distances. Something that even NASA is beginning to find cumbersome in the light of recent discoveries.
thanks Solar ... I dont have the technical savvy you guys have, its frustrating, I can smell the truth in there but have trouble connecting the dotsYou know what is interesting about that work, and no I haven’t read it all yet: To me, it ‘chronicles’ the devolution of harmonic principles in the solar system and its orbits into what is now known as “celestial mechanics” and it’s strictly mechanistic approach.
... the frustration manifests in child like ways at times , so apol's for my initial reaction above .. to all 
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/edit.htmlFirst Steps
About two months ago, I read in a column by Jeffery Kooistra in Infinite Energy magazine (Issue 27, 1999) of a simple and paradoxical experiment, originally proposed by Dr. Peter Graneau, the author of Ampère-Neumann Electrodynamics in Metals and other works. The result so fascinated me that I decided to reproduce the experiment on my own. Two 42-inch lengths of half-inch (i.d.) copper pipe were mounted, each on a separate length of 1 x 3 lumber, and laid parallel to one another, like rails, about 12 inches apart. The opposite terminals of a 12-volt automotive battery were connected to the copper rails.
When the circuit is completed, by placing a 24-inch length of copper pipe perpendicularly across the two parallel pipes, the shorter pipe begins to roll down the track, accelerating to the end, and sparking and sputtering as it goes in a delightful display.
One familiar with the Ampère angular force (see 21st Century, Fall 1996, “The Atomic Science Textbooks Don’t Teach,” p. 21), will see that an explanation based on repulsion between elements of current in the parallel rods, and those in the movable, perpendicular portion of the circuit, is at hand—although, the same motion can be accounted for by the algebraically equivalent i x B forces considered in Maxwell’s formulations.
The paradox which the designer of the experiment wished to demonstrate comes in the next part. If we replace the 24-inch copper pipe with an equivalent length of steel pipe, the steel pipe rolls in the opposite direction! Why? I asked Dr. Graneau, who was kind enough to provoke my added interest by telling me that he didn’t know, and that he didn’t know of anybody who did.
That is very interesting info Jarva. The notion, or overly infused idea, that only “gravity can affect the earth or the sun at planetary distances” has reached its own “tipping point”. The electrodynamics of “Red Sprites”, “Blue Jets”, and associated Lightning when correlated with “magnetic ropes” connecting Earth to Sun and/or the “stringy stuff” of the magneto-tail(s) of other planets These are are just as significant:Jarvamundo wrote: http://n-atlantis.com/nelson.htmIt seems that the study of cosmic effects on radio propagation does not lend itself easily to modern scientific study and this may have something to do with the fact that it encroaches on two taboo scientific areas:
The obvious first one being its connection to Astrology.
The second is the dogma that nothing but gravity can affect the earth or the sun at planetary distances. Something that even NASA is beginning to find cumbersome in the light of recent discoveries.
Yeah suspiciously looks like eddy current.... would be interesting to redo the experiment with slots cut into the bars etc...Solar wrote:So, it appears that the magnetic field of the copper circuit is inducing eddy currents in the steel.
It's fairly well recognized that EU theory notes that the sun is influenced by it's received electrical activity. I wonder to what extent the distributed circuit constants (giant orbiting electrets) will affect the guided energy to be received by the sun.... the idea seems to follow on pretty consistently from distributed circuit theory to me. I spose the flipside of it, is the sheer volume of the plasmasphere that we are in, and maybe this is largest player in the circuit's coupling to it's received power source...Solar wrote: So yes, there is nothing improper about such things as their can be a scientific basis for what we 'intuit' to be present.
The plasma sheath known as the heliosphere is definitely an aspect of significance. One of my favorites along the line of the “guided energy received by the sun” is keeping up with the work of:Jarvamundo wrote: It's fairly well recognized that EU theory notes that the sun is influenced by it's received electrical activity. I wonder to what extent the distributed circuit constants (giant orbiting electrets) will affect the guided energy to be received by the sun.... the idea seems to follow on pretty consistently from distributed circuit theory to me. I spose the flipside of it, is the sheer volume of the plasmasphere that we are in, and maybe this is largest player in the circuit's coupling to it's received power source...
It is a receiving array, eh ?Jarvamundo wrote:
It's fairly well recognized that EU theory notes that the sun is influenced by it's received electrical activity. I wonder to what extent the distributed circuit constants (giant orbiting electrets) will affect the guided energy to be received by the sun...
Circular and helical phase varied with amplitude.Solar » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:59 pm
The plasma sheath known as the heliosphere is definitely an aspect of significance. One of my favorites along the line of the “guided energy received by the sun” is keeping up with the work of:
Merv Opher now at Boston University
Images and Movies About the Interaction of the Solar System with the Interstellar Medium
A strong, highly-tilted interstellar magnetic field near the Solar System
The data from Voyager craft have revealed that the heliosphere is ‘tilted’ 20-30 degrees with respect to the interstellar flow and 30 degrees from the galactic plane.
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