Is there any active use of supercomputers in EU research?

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Is there any active use of supercomputers in EU research?

Post by phyllotaxis » Sun May 27, 2012 9:16 pm

I read this story, and wondered if scientists and engineers are using this kind of equipment to prove our shared EU claims?

While of course all manner of sensors and such have been utilized/invented to measure and record such happenings- are Blue Gene or CRAY supercomputers (for example) used today to muscle through ump-tillion iterations of a rule-based computer model (the rules being the electric law details we know so far)?
I remember Halton Arp used modeling for his redshift work, but that seems distant-

Mathematicians use massaged and assumption-laden models to claim black holes are real. Gullible folks don't question the assumptions of the models- and ignore when sometimes the models plain don't even work.
If our science is correct, it seems a clean path to dismiss their wasting of time (pardon the pun) with phony black-hole spookiness is by displaying a repeatable model demonstration that consistently manifests the same characteristics (reflections) of the electric-action reality we see before our eyes. I hope there's effort in these areas... seems fruitful.

I would enjoy learning where I might seek more on this approach from those familiar to the topic--

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Re: Is there any active use of supercomputers in EU research

Post by Sparky » Thu May 31, 2012 8:48 pm

What EU research? I assume that plasma physics uses computers for their data collection and running simulations. Otherwise, I have been told that plasma is too difficult to form equations for. You don't really need a supercomputer to correlate data from the various disciplines that EU covers, do you.?

Newton didn't have a computer, and look at what he came up with.
In some ways, computers are a distraction. Look at all the nonsense that computers can be made to support. If the premise is faulty, you just get the wrong answer quicker with a computer.

I donno.... :? :oops:
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Re: Is there any active use of supercomputers in EU research

Post by phyllotaxis » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:11 pm

I speak not of the use of computers to satisfy my need for evidence- I speak of it is a means of providing the evidence to others. Specifically, to those others that currently use this kind of data as a prop for strings and black holes.

I find it difficult to believe that people are not running simulations using the laws of electricity as they are currently understood somewhere. I remember Arp's use to model galaxy formation. Excellent example. It should be mentioned in every EU discussion.

What about more like that to replicate the Crab nebula, for example?
I'd think that you could make a crab nebula with simple electric principles. right?

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Post by Sparky » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:24 pm

Arp's use to model galaxy formation
Do you know what forces Arp used to program his simulation.
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Re: Is there any active use of supercomputers in EU research

Post by phyllotaxis » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:31 pm

In reading his papers on his redshift work I do not recall mention of anything beyond statistics and graphing being used.
I also don't know what detailed variables he used in his galaxy formation models.
Surely components must have included gravity, inertia, and other such forces. As for electric forces, I don't know what he used in his models.

One would think that they are similar to variable sets that could be used/adapted to other purposes though, right?

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