The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by oz93666 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:00 pm

CharlesChandler wrote:
JeffreyW wrote:Humans are the superior race in the universe!
No, there are definitely superior races out there. But we'll never see them.
I agree we don't see the superior ones , but I think it's because they adhere to a non interference directive, they know it would only be detrimental to interfere with primitive races. The ones that do come here , I call renegades, don't really care about our development, according to(US) government insiders around sixty different species have been cataloged as visiting here.

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by Native » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:02 am

I´ll leave this topic - it has apparently been along too long to take it seriously.
Life makes senses and who could doubt it, if you have no doubt about it. - "Grooks" by Piet Hein - My fellow Danish countryman and also a Natural Philosopher

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:49 am

Native wrote:I´ll leave this topic - it has apparently been along too long to take it seriously.
Oh its still serious. Its just after 2+ years of people ridiculing me and saying I'm uneducated crank/crack pot/pseudoscientist I've started to wear down.

Remember I've given it my all. This isn't new to me, the insight was made in September 2011. I've been busting my ass since. Here are all the papers:

http://vixra.org/author/jeffrey_joseph_wolynski

Remember you can email me if you have questions, or at least post them to Charles' QDL site so interested people can have more productive discussion without getting called names like on mainstream *science* forums.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by Sparky » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:26 am

I´ll leave this topic - it has apparently been along too long to take it seriously.
It is very serious!!!! If we don't know the proper sequence of planet and star formation, the Earth is doomed.!!! Jeffrey has graciously and patiently explained to us noobs that, because standard and EU theory is all wrong, he must be correct!!! We should be indebted to him for his insight and work, taking us to the Final Solution: that stars evolve from planets, that have been wandering the vastness of space for billions of years, smashing and crashing, growing larger and larger til they ignite into a star.!!! ;) Brilliant!!! ;)




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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by oz93666 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:02 pm

JeffreyW wrote:..... I've been busting my ass ......Remember you can email me if you have questions, .
We shouldn't be working to convince anyone , only striving to understand the truth, if others are interested in what you've discovered , well, great. ...Don't drift off into private emails conduct the discussion in public as entertainment and education for all.
Jeff ...were all agreed that 'you dah man' ...but you really have to address the error on page 20 , this misunderstanding could be affecting areas of your theory.

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by oz93666 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:17 pm

Sparky wrote:....stars evolve from planets, that have been wandering the vastness of space for billions of years, smashing and crashing, growing larger and larger til they ignite into a star.!!! ...
Excuse me !!! ....Have I got it wrong???? I thought the story was ..... Z pinch ignites stars......star shines......star cools down......organic life comes.....evolves into high tech civilization....... life burrows into star, before.....star loses atmosphere and wanders off into the universe.

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by oz93666 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:15 pm

nick c wrote:You propose that the planets and their moons are all former stars... That would mean that there are hundreds of former stars all compacted in a confined area. How did all these stars come together....
I think that the answer might be that in its life cycle a star cools down to a temperature (like earths) where it develops organic life , intelligent life, perhaps this intelligent life self destructs ( as our civilization might be on the verge of doing), intelligent life will develop again and again ,until eventually it survives ,and a very high tech , space fairing civilization, develops .They will know the life cycle of their home planet and will want to direct it's wandering ,when it starts to wander, so they will burrow inside , making comfortable secure bases . and install a mechanism so they can move their home where ever they want .

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Post by Sparky » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:19 pm

Jeff ...were all agreed that 'you dah man' -------Excuse me !!! ....Have I got it wrong????
yep.... 8-)
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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by Sparky » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:27 pm

jw:
Do I need references to state that the Earth is a giant ball? Or that it orbits around the sun? Do I need acceptance from "scientists"? No! I am the best scientist. I do science! I do explanation. I do not require degrees or labels or acceptance or nobel prizes nonsense. This is for the birds!

If they are to make the hypothesis that stars spit planets, then why out of the millions of stars catalogued that this has never been recorded. Zero out of millions is pretty low odds. Therefore we can throw that hypothesis out.
:roll:

Yes, very scientific!! :roll:

After all, jw says,"No! I am the best scientist. I do science! I do explanation". :roll:

What more proof does anyone need? :roll: :D
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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by oz93666 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:08 pm

JeffreyW wrote: The masses of stars are miscalculated by many magnitudes. This is why the sun is round, not an oblate spheroid. If it was as massive as the dogma has it being, then it should not be so round.
The orbit of the earth around the sun has been very accurately plotted. If the sun had less mass then this would be evident in a more elliptical orbit , unless your suggesting that the mass of the earth is also overestimated.

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:23 pm

oz93666 wrote:
Sparky wrote:....stars evolve from planets, that have been wandering the vastness of space for billions of years, smashing and crashing, growing larger and larger til they ignite into a star.!!! ...
Excuse me !!! ....Have I got it wrong???? I thought the story was ..... Z pinch ignites stars......star shines......star cools down......organic life comes.....evolves into high tech civilization....... life burrows into star, before.....star loses atmosphere and wanders off into the universe.
You got it Oz. Z-pinch first, star shines really bright, cools down, elements cool and combine into molecules, it shrinks, life forms, evolves... then leaves... lol
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:24 pm

oz93666 wrote:
nick c wrote:You propose that the planets and their moons are all former stars... That would mean that there are hundreds of former stars all compacted in a confined area. How did all these stars come together....
I think that the answer might be that in its life cycle a star cools down to a temperature (like earths) where it develops organic life , intelligent life, perhaps this intelligent life self destructs ( as our civilization might be on the verge of doing), intelligent life will develop again and again ,until eventually it survives ,and a very high tech , space fairing civilization, develops .They will know the life cycle of their home planet and will want to direct it's wandering ,when it starts to wander, so they will burrow inside , making comfortable secure bases . and install a mechanism so they can move their home where ever they want .
Our destiny is to become a space faring civilization. You are right again Oz. I actually consider Earth to be nothing short of "the nest" if you will.
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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:28 pm

oz93666 wrote:
JeffreyW wrote:..... I've been busting my ass ......Remember you can email me if you have questions, .
We shouldn't be working to convince anyone , only striving to understand the truth, if others are interested in what you've discovered , well, great. ...Don't drift off into private emails conduct the discussion in public as entertainment and education for all.
Jeff ...were all agreed that 'you dah man' ...but you really have to address the error on page 20 , this misunderstanding could be affecting areas of your theory.
Oh I know. I don't want to "find an answer" to that because then it would be just explaining it away. It takes people much more brilliant to see where my mind was going for that. I think there are very serious problems with "mass" centered physics. EU has it, almost, correct... they say they are attacking "gravity" centered physics. No. They need to attack "mass" centered physics. I have thought up definition for matter that obsoletes establishment's definition. This is the first step, and I have not seen this definition anywhere in EU which is why I am here as well:

http://vixra.org/pdf/1301.0136v1.pdf
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:30 pm

oz93666 wrote:
JeffreyW wrote: The masses of stars are miscalculated by many magnitudes. This is why the sun is round, not an oblate spheroid. If it was as massive as the dogma has it being, then it should not be so round.
The orbit of the earth around the sun has been very accurately plotted. If the sun had less mass then this would be evident in a more elliptical orbit , unless your suggesting that the mass of the earth is also overestimated.
Yes, I can only sigh for that. I must choose to leave my confusion out in the open then instead of hidden correspondence. You are right.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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Re: The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

Post by JeffreyW » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:41 pm

Oz,

I will consider the flaws and make what would be perceived to be corrections to the paper. I do wish to also keep my readers informed that I do not wish to have "answers", I only wish to allow people to formulate piercing questions. With this in mind it becomes obvious why education is dangerous. Establishment claims to have "all answers", but their roads lead to dead ends. This means somewhere in their theories they are wrong, in more ways than one. Thus to correct my papers I must be careful what to accept as factual information, especially in regards to correct interpretation and analysis.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1711.0206v4.pdf The Main Book on Stellar Metamorphosis, Version 4

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