Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:52 pm

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J'lord wrote:
Would not the sun be functioning in both modes...Z Pinch and Theta Pinch?
Exactly.
Go back to the picture of a falling cylindical stream of water, separating in to Beads. [was it the Plasmoids thread?]

Now envision the combined transformer/capacitor effects from the mutually interacting EM fields....

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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:57 pm

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Didn't mean to be curt, cable went blooey....
Doesn't have to be an 'either-or' e-dynamic or e-static solar model.

... proposing, [on the shoulders of numerous others], an integration of the two concepts:

One that will view the whole solar system, right out to and including the helio-pause, as an integral transformer-capacitor-transceiver system.
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(EM helio-pause)

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... &start=180

ie:

Transforming Longitudinal aetheric EM flux [collimated as Birkelund current] into Transverse [helical/toroidal] EM fields
in Plasmoid form.

Storing energy in the solar radial electric field [solenoidal Capacitor] and
re-Radiating in very broad band.



EU concordance ?:
” We have direct evidence of the superluminal action of the electric force, given that gravity is a longitudinal electric force. Indeed, Newton's celebrated equation requires that gravity act instantly on the scale of the solar system. ….
...commonsense would tell us that a wave cannot exist in nothing. So Maxwell was right, light is a transverse electromagnetic wave moving through a medium, the Ãether. “
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=gdaqg8df

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w/o permission, quoting Steve Smith, from 5-25-07, on basis of most succinctness:
“Are we discussing electromotive force or amperage? Is this based in electrostatics or electrodynamics? I confess that the difference was once clear to me, but now is becoming more mysterious...perhaps I am entering the second stage of knowledge: conscious ignorance?”:
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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Great succinct quote from Steve Smith.
The unified field is/has got to be a single potential field, upon which the kinetic effects of the individual elements are cast.
Call me simplistic... I'm not smart enough to understand half of the tiny fraction of what I'm learning Wink about EU...
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:59 pm

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Here are links to the Colorado Springs Notes 1899-1900
a quick introduction by Tesla
http://www.tehnika.edu.yu/tehnicclass/tesla/notes.html

The notes on line.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla ... onotes.htm

Some Explanations of the Notes
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/371tcbg.htm

http://www.teslasociety.com/teslarec.pdf

Interesting photographs
http://www.classictesla.com/photos/tesla/tesla.html
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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Has anyone taken the time to read the Colorado notes?
Any thoughts?>
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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I haven't read the Colorado Notes yet, but once we have enough people that have, I'd really like to see a discussion of what it would take to create a laboratory to test these claims. It looks like there's enough information to vaguely suggest a direction for research. It should be possible from that to identify what equipment and supplies are necessary to attempt to replicate his work. Even if nobody can afford it yet, it's a step forward to identify a specific strategy and laboratory that should be built.

But it may still be premature for that. I'm curious what sort of ballpark figure would be required to test this stuff out. Are we talking $100k? $1 million? $2 million?

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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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pln2bz wrote: I haven't read the Colorado Notes yet, but once we have enough people that have, I'd really like to see a discussion of what it would take to create a laboratory to test these claims. It looks like there's enough information to vaguely suggest a direction for research. It should be possible from that to identify what equipment and supplies are necessary to attempt to replicate his work. Even if nobody can afford it yet, it's a step forward to identify a specific strategy and laboratory that should be built.

But it may still be premature for that. I'm curious what sort of ballpark figure would be required to test this stuff out. Are we talking $100k? $1 million? $2 million?
As I mentioned in another thread, Tesla was one of the pioneers of plasma research and one of the most able and forgotten. It would behoove everyone interested in the EU to study his works. However, it will take more than just reading his Colarado Springs Notes. You have to read everything of his, and I mean what he actually wrote or spoke, and then digest it - much of what has been written by others regarding his works has been grossly distorted due to ignorance or malice. You also really need to verse yourself in the writings of the other great late 19th and early 20th Century scientists who believed in a universe based on an aetheric foundation. Tesla was always very precise in his use of words, you can read his papers time after time, and as your awareness grows find things you had simply overlooked because you had no comprehension previously of what he was actually saying. Prior to the financial disaster that terminated his effort to create his World System, Tesla was very open in making information available of much of his research to everyone. Some of his talks read like Do It Yourself lectures; for instance, for medical therapists he gives explict instructions on how to build a Tesla Coil. However, afterwards he became quite reserved and like his references to his Dynamic Theory of Gravity, he only gave out the vaguest of details.

Most of the references in this thread actually refer to the attributes of the Tesla Coil, and not necessarily to its big brother, the Magnifying Transmitter, which he called an electron pump, which was a specially designed coil for the transmission of power and signals through the earth. Tesla Coils are not that difficult or expensive to build since they scale very well, and in the first part of the 20th Century they were to be found in nearly all physics research labs and also in numerous electrical applications. There are lots of home hobbyists sites on-line that have done all sorts of Z-pinch demonstrations with cans or whatever else they had handy. It shouldn't be that difficult to get in contact with other groups who are well versed in building these machine, but of course you need to first understand what they can do and determine if in fact they can help you achieve what ever goals you have in mind.

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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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That would be Mr Hull
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/371tcbg.htm
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:04 pm

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I think the suggestions you write are good. You'd want to develop an understanding of all the steps of our cultural process of learning. I think too that a person would want to learn a framework of some sort for understanding subatomic particles. If I attempted something like this, I'd attempt to learn David Thomson's aether theory (from "Secrets of the Aether"). It can be tough to follow, but from personal communications, I feel that he's rigorous in his approach. Even if his aether theory isn't correct, his explanatory style sets a great example for at least a mental approach to the subject. He's very specific with his definitions and terminology. Once you get to a certain level of understanding with Tesla, David Thomson, EU Theory and all of the historical works (which would probably take a few years to amass), you could play the role of a skeptic and start separating out the assumptions from the facts.

A person could do it, but they'd have to be careful to avoid spending too much time in any one discipline or on any single project. And they'd have to have a lot of spare time. They'd ideally already be aware of EU sufficiently to understand the large-scale side of things. That really seems to reduce the numbers quite a bit.
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

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Since the Magnifying Tansmitter begins with a tesla coil its stands to reason that there are elements of the Coil in the Transmitter ShortHC.
;)
I also have been doing exactly what ShortHC states. Read all of Tesla work and all the stuff he read. Its a lifetime of work.

I still say I am the first person to state the Impulse Magnifying Transmitter is a Theta Pinch.
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I seem to have that houour and I am very proud of that.
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:07 pm

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I'd add the following private communications from David Thomson (within which he gives me permission for republication). It strongly suggests that people who are interested within Tesla's work should learn David Thomson's Aether Physics Model. With such a complicated subject, we badly need to consider shortcuts to greater understanding, and by learning the APM, we essentially stand upon the shoulders of those that came before us ...
Hi Chris,

I started my interest in physics by reading everything written by
and about Tesla. I have an electronic and print library of Tesla
writings and have thoroughly examined all of his patents.

Most of what you read about Tesla using Wardencliffe as an
electron pump is a spinoff of my writings about Tesla over the
past five years. I am the one who first realized that Tesla's
Wardencliffe tower acted like a huge electron hammer that pounded
the Earth's electrostatic field and created surface standing
waves.

People did not begin taking wireless power transmission seriously
until after I had explained that wireless power transmission was
a longitudinal wave in an electrostatic field. Now there are
actually companies producing products that incorporate wireless
power transmission in their products. Just as you can hear the
intelligence in my words, so have hundreds of other people. In a
small way, I have inspired many people to take their knowledge
and expand it to new dimensions. Prior to my analysis, people
were trying to use Maxwellian mathematics for understanding
Tesla's Wardencliffe system. Maxwellian mathematics is for EM
waves. Longitudinal waves are mechanical waves, not
electromagnetic waves. The proper physics for understanding
Tesla's propagation system is acoustics, not Maxwellian
mathematics.

There was a great battle between Tesla and the establishment as
to whether energy was propagated through EM waves or longitudinal
waves. Neither of them realized the orthogonality of charge to
mass, because they didn't have the APM. When I presented that
BOTH views are correct, and explained how in the APM, then
suddenly everybody seemed to have already known that.

When I hear people talking about the Aether these days, they are
using words and phrases unique to my explanation of the Aether.
Someday, college researchers looking for a project will scour the
Internet records for discussions about Aether and compare to the
timing of my posts and paper publications. I can tell that I
have already made a significant impact on society and I know it
will only increase with time.

You are right about needing to take a rigorous approach to new
theories. Without regard for whether the Aether exists or not,
if I present a referenced paper with equations and data, then the
paper should be examined based upon the correctness of the
references, equations, and data. That is what science is about.
The conclusion doesn't mean anything if the foundation of the
theory is incorrect. And if the foundation of the theory is
correct, the conclusion needs to be seriously considered. When
people choose not to accept a paper because they don't like the
conclusion, then science has been thrown out the window.

The APM is nothing for the establishment to sneer at. It
presents the only mathematical unification of the forces. For
over 100 years, with thousands of scientists, and billions of
dollars in funding, nobody else has produced a Unified Force
Theory. Albert Einstein considered this theory to be the Holy
Grail of physics. This is a significant discovery of itself.
For scientists to ignore this Unified Force Theory and not give
it a proper review is a serious crime against science.

It is good to hear you are working on the peer review problem.
You are welcome to use anything I have written in any way you see
fit. I wish you success in this endeavor.

My time is limited these days, so I only respond in private. I'm
sorry I can't take the time to read the Thunderbolt forum. I'm
afraid I would get sucked back in and get distracted. Dave has
already asked me to write a blog on the Aether, which I do intend
to do when I get the time. But for now, I need to work on my new
book and continue my daily practices.

BTW, the stress I experienced from the scientific community, and
my sedentary lifestyle from spending too much time online landed
me in the hospital emergency room this past Christmas. That is
why I backed out of public view. I'm making great progress in
recovering my health and want to maintain it. Feel free to
contact me in private, but please don't invite me to a public
forum. (Actually, I am publicly on Elfrad, but it is a much
safer environment over there and the topic is earthquakes.)

Dave
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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:08 pm

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Maxwellian mathematics is for EM
waves. Longitudinal waves are mechanical waves, not
electromagnetic waves. The proper physics for understanding
Tesla's propagation system is acoustics, not Maxwellian
mathematics.
I find this very interesting! I have had a suspicion as to accoustics being as important as charge in electrodynamics. I recall @Rc suspecting as much as well.

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Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:10 pm

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I started my interest in physics by reading everything written by
and about Tesla. I have an electronic and print library of Tesla
writings and have thoroughly examined all of his patents.

Most of what you read about Tesla using Wardencliffe as an
electron pump is a spinoff of my writings about Tesla over the
past five years. I am the one who first realized that Tesla's
Wardencliffe tower acted like a huge electron hammer that pounded
the Earth's electrostatic field and created surface standing
waves.


I had explained that wireless power transmission was
a longitudinal wave in an electrostatic field
. Now there are
actually companies producing products that incorporate wireless
power transmission in their products. Just as you can hear the
intelligence in my words, so have hundreds of other people. In a
small way, I have inspired many people to take their knowledge
and expand it to new dimensions. Prior to my analysis, people
were trying to use Maxwellian mathematics for understanding
Tesla's Wardencliffe system. Maxwellian mathematics is for EM
waves. Longitudinal waves are mechanical waves, not
electromagnetic waves. The proper physics for understanding
Tesla's propagation system is acoustics, not Maxwellian
mathematics.
I am very interested in this statement. I have been on this trail since I heard of Tesla much after electronic college. I have pursued a Original Maxwell Theorum. Subsets included and complete Maxwell approach with quaternions, with the addition of Wittakers work, and much will be revealed. I also see that the aether, aka Scalar field {Tom Bearden}, aka Hydromagnetic field [Meyl), aka a Tempic field [Wilbert Smith} is another reality that without which the model is incomplete. I would venture that longitudinal current is a EM wave and not just a mechanical wave. I believe that the longitudinal EM component is explained with Faraday Induction, married with the Original Maxwell Theorum applied in Quaternions apply Whittaker's additions and this delivers the EM Longitudinal Scalar Wave/Current and the work of Smith and Meyl seems to back this assumption. The primary density gradient scalar field set in quadrature you achieve vectorally E with divergence which is a inverse square of the distance function and B with curl which is the inverse cube of the distance function.

The primary field, aka the aether, ect is the fundamental way to balance the books.
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Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:11 pm

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Most of what you read about Tesla using Wardencliffe as an electron pump is a spinoff of my writings about Tesla over the past five years. I am the one who first realized that Tesla's Wardencliffe tower acted like a huge electron hammer that pounded the Earth's electrostatic field and created surface standing waves.
I really get tired of egotistical claptrap like this.

Here is what Tesla wrote about his Magnifying Transmitter on Feb. 9, 1901:
".. a machine which, to explain its operation in plain language, resembled a pump in its action, drawing electricity from the earth and driving it back into the same at an enormous rate...".

Then later he wrote this:
"I will be quite explicit on the subject of my magnifying transformer so that it will be clearly understood. In the first place, it is a resonant transformer, with a secondary in which the parts, charged to a high potential, are of considerable area and arranged in space along ideal enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature, and at proper distances from one another, thereby insuring a small electric surface density everywhere, so that no leak can occur even if the conductor is bare... Such a circuit may then be excited with impulses of any kind, even of low frequency and it will yield sinusoidal and continuous oscillations like those of an alternator. Taken in the narrowest significance of the term, however, it is a resonant transformer which, besides possessing these qualities, is accurately proportioned to fit the globe and its electrical constants and properties..."

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Re: Recovered: History of the Z Pinch and Theta Pinch Rewritten!

Post by bboyer » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:14 pm

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junglelord wrote: Since the Magnifying Tansmitter begins with a tesla coil its stands to reason that there are elements of the Coil in the Transmitter ShortHC.
;)
I also have been doing exactly what ShortHC states. Read all of Tesla work and all the stuff he read. Its a lifetime of work.

I still say I am the first person to state the Impulse Magnifying Transmitter is a Theta Pinch.
:D
I seem to have that houour and I am very proud of that.
8-)
Well it certainly is interesting. Electricity, electrical concepts etc, without the work of Tesla would certainly seem to be missing some crucial aspects. Considering this 'aspect' of the cosmos Tesla was working with seems to have some rather heavy implications with regard to the aether. I like to see these 'aspects' observationally in the cosmos and so far the patterns revealed by radio telescopes of 'lobes' expelled along equatorial regions is interesting from a theta pinch point of view.

Also, when considering Birkeland currents and galaxy formation via the intersection of those currents with the double layer 'skin' of dark plasma clouds, it seems possible that those currents 'energize' vast sections of the cloud's double layer where they so intersect. This is what forms the 'disk' proper imho. It is why in some photographs the furthest edges of galaxies can seem to 'wobble' up and down. It's not the galaxy that's 'wobbling'. It's the energized double layer 'skin' of the plasma cloud that is responding as such.

It seems that within the double layer this could produce an energized constrictive torus or "ring current" that would theta pinch the plasma column running perpendicular to it. Composite images such as Hubble, Spitzer, and Chandra of M82 *seem* to indicate that type of electric plasma dynamic.

Why are Meryl and Dollard the only people who seem to be working with this though? J.P Morgan's greed seems to have shut the door on a better way of doing things and understanding important 'aspects' of electricity and subsequently the universe.

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