The Next Great Boondoogle.

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The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by GaryN » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:29 pm

World's most powerful laser to tear apart the vacuum of space
Due to follow in the footsteps of the Large Hadron Collider, the latest "big science" experiment being proposed by physicists will see the world's most powerful laser being constructed.
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The ELI Ultra-High Field laser is due to be complete by the end of the decade and will cost an estimated £1 billion. Although the location for the facility will not be decided until next year, the UK is among several European countries in the running to host it.
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They also believe it could even allow them to prove whether extra-dimensions exist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... space.html
No luck with the Higgs, lets look for something even more ridiculous. Extra dimensions should keep us employed
for a good while. And like most other projects, by the time it's built, that $1B will end up at what, $5B, $10B?
And then they will need a more powerful one, or two. :roll:
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by MrAmsterdam » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:15 pm

One billion £ sterling pounds for the world's most powerful laser to tear apart the vacuum of space in search for hidden mathematical dimensions is cheap in some perspective...
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by mharratsc » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:26 am

It's truly disgusting that stuff like this is the sorry state of mainstreams attempts at empirical physics. :oops:

Why don't they just create a computer model like they do for everything else, and save the money? :roll:
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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by Jarvamundo » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:08 pm

when you grow tired of assigning properties to nothing, why not try dividing it.

onwards!

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by mharratsc » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:26 am

Yer hilarious, Jarv! :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by D_Archer » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:06 pm

Lasers are cool, nuff said.

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by mjv1121 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:46 pm

Surely lasers are hot?

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by Goldminer » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:40 am

I sense a disturbance in the farce.

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Re: The Next Great Boondoogle.

Post by GaryN » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:59 pm

Oh, no, not again...
"Big Bang" machine to get huge upgrade in 2020
The upgrade will enable the operators to carry out up to 10 times as many collisions, or luminosity, in the LHC as the hundreds of millions a second now, and to gain deep insight into the origins and make-up of the universe.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... HF20111117
With Europe trillions of dollars in debt, I think it's time for an Occupy Cern movement. :evil:
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller

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