Almost a shame MIT isn't a Japanese university, I mean, it would be the entire engineering department...1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful
On October 28, 2011, Andrea Rossi demonstrated his 1 megawatt E-Cat system to his first customer, who had engineers/scientists on hand to test/validate its performance. Due to a glitch, it provided 479 kW of continuous power for 5.5 hours during the self-sustained mode.....
Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
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tholden
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Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW ... uccessful/

- Chai Wallah
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
Today i bought a large crowbar,
which I can't wait to introduce to the electric and gas meters.
As soon as I get my ecat thru the post.
i read a little on the PESN web
does anyone know how it may work
hydrogen is attached to Nickel to make Copper
in the process creating heat
am i correct so far.
it says radio waves are used. Is there an association with the wavelength of a particular element which will cause it to gain proton.
does the frequency of the radio wave interfere with the vibration of the nickel atom- causing it to suck in the hydrogen..
which I can't wait to introduce to the electric and gas meters.
As soon as I get my ecat thru the post.
i read a little on the PESN web
does anyone know how it may work
hydrogen is attached to Nickel to make Copper
in the process creating heat
am i correct so far.
it says radio waves are used. Is there an association with the wavelength of a particular element which will cause it to gain proton.
does the frequency of the radio wave interfere with the vibration of the nickel atom- causing it to suck in the hydrogen..
Checking for spelling mistakes is the last refuge of the Skeptic.
- GaryN
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
If this system did produce excess power, then my has it not been
mentioned by any mainstream sources? This should have been headline
news!
Yes, vibration is the key to low energy transmutation, and some 19th
century or earlier scientists realised this. It sure seems like the people
shepharding humanity have their game plan, and free or cheap, abundant
energy and resources are not on the list of what we are allowed to have.
If E-Cat doesn't work, then someone is going to get sued, and it will
disappear. If it does work, will there be attempts to discredit it or
regulate it out of existence, or will Exxon buy the patents?
An unsorted grab-bag of bookmarks, sorry if some are not relevant:
Neutron catalysis of resonance fusion in stellar matter
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet ... yes&ref=no
Ultra low momentum neutron catalyzed nuclear reactions
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@es ... 19129.html
Heavy Electrons
http://www.physorg.com/news194702102.html
POLARON INDUCED RESONANCE MECHANISMS OF DEUTERIUM-LITHIUM FUSION IN A CRYSTALLINE PALLADIUM
http://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/87494
Controlled nuclear fusion of ions by ion cyclotron resonance (ICR) acceleration
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/pur ... 757040.pdf
TETRAHEDRALAND OCTAHEDRAL RESONANCE FUSION
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Takaha ... ahedra.pdf
Triple-alpha process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-alpha_process
mentioned by any mainstream sources? This should have been headline
news!
Yes, vibration is the key to low energy transmutation, and some 19th
century or earlier scientists realised this. It sure seems like the people
shepharding humanity have their game plan, and free or cheap, abundant
energy and resources are not on the list of what we are allowed to have.
If E-Cat doesn't work, then someone is going to get sued, and it will
disappear. If it does work, will there be attempts to discredit it or
regulate it out of existence, or will Exxon buy the patents?
An unsorted grab-bag of bookmarks, sorry if some are not relevant:
Neutron catalysis of resonance fusion in stellar matter
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet ... yes&ref=no
Ultra low momentum neutron catalyzed nuclear reactions
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@es ... 19129.html
Heavy Electrons
http://www.physorg.com/news194702102.html
POLARON INDUCED RESONANCE MECHANISMS OF DEUTERIUM-LITHIUM FUSION IN A CRYSTALLINE PALLADIUM
http://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/87494
Controlled nuclear fusion of ions by ion cyclotron resonance (ICR) acceleration
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/pur ... 757040.pdf
TETRAHEDRALAND OCTAHEDRAL RESONANCE FUSION
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Takaha ... ahedra.pdf
Triple-alpha process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-alpha_process
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
- MrAmsterdam
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
"There is nothing to see, move along please" seems the general attitude of mainstream journalists nowadays.If this system did produce excess power, then my has it not been
mentioned by any mainstream sources? This should have been headline
news!
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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- GaryN
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
From the linked report:

Smart fella. I think a good 'shaking' would be a benefit to a lot of scientists, too.Peter Hagelstein, an MIT professor of electrical engineering and computer science and one of the most mainstream proponents of cold fusion research, thinks the process may involve vibrational energy in the metal's lattice driving nuclear transitions that lead to fusion.
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
What to make of Andrea Rossi's apparent cold fusion success (Wired UK)
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... heating-up
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... heating-up
The apparent success of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat cold fusion demonstration on 28 October is starting to send ripples into the mainstream press. So what new clues do we have to settle whether it's the breakthrough of the century or the scam of the decade?
In the demonstration, overseen by engineers and technicians from Rossi's mysterious US customer, the device appeared to produce over 470 kilowatts of heat for several hours. The customer was evidently satisfied and paid for the device, though other scientists and journalists attending were not given close access to the test equipment.
Following his first sale, Rossi now says he has orders for thirteen more megawatt-class E-Cat power plants. He's offering them to anyone at $2,000 (£1,250) a kilowatt, which works out at $2 million (£1.25 million) per unit, and says he has customers in the US and Europe. Rossi says a domestic version rated at a few kilowatts is at least a year away. He is also working on adapting the E-Cat so its heat output can converted to electricity, but this will require higher working temperatures and will take two years or more.
This is not quite what you'd expect from a fraudster.
Firstly, the demonstration should have been much more convincing. The shipping container housing the E-Cat setup should have been hoisted from a crane and visibly disconnected from any external power supply. As with all conjuring tricks, the audience should have been allowed to inspect the apparatus. And why only claim 470 kilowatts when you're supposed to be producing twice that amount? If the whole thing was set-up, and the mystery customer a fake, it was not well calculated to convince anyone else.
Secondly, this is normally the point at which a con artist starts issuing shares, asking for capital, or taking "deposits" from gullible consumers. Anything to grab some cash from those willing to offer it. Instead, Rossi is apparently only taking orders from large customers who will be checking the devices work before they take delivery. These are people with good lawyers to write contracts and deal with any complications. They are not easy targets. Whatever he's doing, he's going for the longer game.
Meanwhile, the media coverage has been shifting away from the possibility of fraud, and some mainstream commentators are toying with the idea that this might just be the big breakthrough that Rossi claims.
Fox News was first out, though they took a few days to catch on, publishing a piece on 2 November which focused on the identity of the anonymous customer. Following a hint from Rossi, Fox decided the customer is real and is the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR).
It's a reasonable enough guess. The US Navy is one of the few institutions where cold fusion research still continues openly, but the evidence is scant. Although a Paul Swanson from SPAWAR was present as an observer at one test, this may simply be evidence of continuing interest in the field, and the organisation will not make any comment.
Then on 3 November MSNBC ran a cautiously optimistic piece under the headline "Italian cold fusion machine passes another test", noting that although there is widespread scepticism about cold fusion, "proof is adding up" that the technology works.
More curious is the lack of a story from Associated Press. AP science reporter Peter Svensson flew from New York to attend the demonstration, and live coverage of the event was curtailed to give AP the exclusive. But Svensson has so far not written a word about it. Some online commentators suggested that he had been silenced by "Chinese-style information censorship." When challenged, AP apparently initially tried to deny Svensson was there, though photographs suggest otherwise.
This led to a campaign encouraging people to contact Svensson about the story via his Twitter feed. At first he simply replied with variations of "Sorry, there's nothing I can tell you at this point", but later changed to "All I can say is 'stay tuned'".
Our guess is that AP does not want to publish anything until it can verify the reality and perhaps the identity of the customer. This in itself suggests a degree of optimism: it's gambling that there will be a big story at the end, and it has accepted being scooped by Fox and MSNBC on the smaller story of the demonstration in order to get it.
Meanwhile, we're left waiting until Rossi delivers the next E-Cat, which will be going to a different customer, in a few months. Hopefully they will be less secretive. In fact, if interest keeps growing, they could put the machine on show and use the steam output to make froth on cups of cappuccino for paying spectators and get a quick return on their £1.25 million investment.
Don't miss: The history of Rossi's E-Cat
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Re: Copmmercial grade cold fusion test succeeds
Too little, too late.phyllotaxis wrote:Is CBS News mainstream enough for you?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-573 ... test-demo/
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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