A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Siggy_G » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:05 pm

Jarvamundo wrote:Buckle up

http://www.chromoscope.net/
Even better! :D Great stuff. It still beats me how WMAP data isn't just saying the exact same thing as the other received wavelengths from the Milkyway and its surroundings (just under a different image projection).

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Nereid » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:48 pm

Siggy_G wrote:Even better! :D Great stuff. It still beats me how WMAP data isn't just saying the exact same thing as the other received wavelengths from the Milkyway and its surroundings (just under a different image projection).
There is rather a lot of "WMAP data", from what is transmitted to Earth (a coded form of the outputs from the instruments) to the estimated temperature anisotropies ("The signal from the our Galaxy was subtracted using the multi-frequency data. ")

Details of the instruments, their outputs, and the processing done to produce the various data products can be found in papers such as "Five-Year Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) Observations: Data Processing, Sky Maps, and Basic Results" (astro-ph abstract; the full set of technical papers is here).

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by kiwi » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:34 pm

pictures at here :arrow:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... vered.html
First evidence of other universes that exist alongside our own after scientists spot 'cosmic bruises'
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Scientists say that they have found evidence that our universe was 'jostled' by other parallel universes in the distant past.

The incredible claim emerged after they studied patterns in the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) – the after-effects of the Big Bang.

They say they may have found evidence that four circular patterns found in the CMB are 'cosmic bruises' where our universe has crashed into other universes at least four times.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z18F3xg7DC

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Nereid » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:24 am

I wouldn't call them "pictures" exacly; they are either highly, highly processed astronomical data, or some kind of visualised model output (an extremely speculative model by Penrose).

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by jjohnson » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:57 am

I guess there's speculative, and then there's extremely speculative, eh?!!
;)

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by kiwi » Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:04 pm

jjohnson wrote:I guess there's speculative, and then there's extremely speculative, eh?!!
;)
which leaves only the rabbit-hole itself,... and thats invite only :cry:

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by omni-tom » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:49 pm

http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/ ... -22-02.PDF
http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/ ... -17-L1.PDF

these two letters are saying that hydrogen bonds in the oceans are emitting the microwaves. Should would make those physicists look rather silly, after all, the surface of the last scattering sounds much better than plain old ocean water. It also has a nice prediction that the monopole component should drop considerably when measured from the greater distance of the Planck satellite compared to COBE. Unfortunatly planck couldnt measure the monopole due to background noise. Anyone know of an update on this?

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Nereid » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:10 am

Very timely omni-tom! :)

I have accepted this challenge.

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Goldminer » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:03 pm

Yep! That good old background noise! A cherry picker's delight! A little warm cherry pie and a dollop of ice cream. Sounds pretty good right about now!
I sense a disturbance in the farce.

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by GaryN » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:22 pm

Bibhas De believes that the COBE-FIRAS design was flawed from the start,
that the antenna could not be trusted to produce meaningful results. A
huge waste of taxpayer money that is still leading us on a wild goose
chase. The embarrassment to 'established' science, if De is correct, would
be huge, and many jobs could vanish. Or does De belong in the NIAMI
section?
The Penzias & Wilson observation was cleverly usurped into the exclusive service of Big Bang Cosmology in a backroom deal in Princeton, when in fact the observation could have had other, better physics-based explanations. The Princeton Group, led by Robert Dicke, made a deal with the AT&T Group (Penzias & Wilson) to publish back-to-back papers by the two groups. Basically, the Princeton Group described the prediction of Big Bang Cosmology, and the AT&T Group described their certain fulfilment of that prediction. Thus everyone else was booted out. The message was: This Merger & Acquisition is a done deal! Stay out!
Penzias & Wilson would later get to cash in their M&A "shares" for Swedish kronor.
Such was the blatant scamming that went down - with the scientific community applauding (Read: SEC approval). Alternative explanations of the AT&T observation were later offered, but the scientific community chose to ignore them.
The Big Bang Blackbody of Smoot & Mather (NASA COBE Satellite) was outright fraud.
Herbert Gush did not observe a Cosmic Blackbody.
Nobody observed a Cosmic Blackbody.
http://www.bibhasde.com/bigbangfraudbook.html
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller

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Re: A question; cosmic microwave background and our solar system

Post by Goldminer » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:19 pm

I think everything is on the 13th floor, and by popular superstition the elevator does not stop there out of fear that the <moderator edit> consensus will become a dying religion.
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