Recovered: Cymatics

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[WCSally]

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[WCSally]

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject:

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O.k. Here is a little example of the pics I spoke of!



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These shapes"separatrix" are all over Mayan Temples as well!

What do you think?

OP "Plasmatic MnemoHistory"

I think (not saying the other ideas are not valid, they may very well be), but I have seen it also as the image of the "KEEP" of Galzu .. or the Vision Serpent .. seen in Sumerian Seals, and depicted in Olmec art, and as the Maya Mercy Seat?.

Also found on a very, very large geoglyph in Ohio(I think) which is documented by Carl Munck. He gives it some off the cuff name, but it is easily recognizable as having many identical features as the items mentioned above. If I had his Lat./ Long. you could see it on Google Maps .. (though part of it is houses now).

Big image file: --- it has obtained a data interpolation error(sorry) --(I will redo it. ~ GeoCities just moved!); which renders Galzu non-visible in this one (that pink diamond is his eye, and in the second image below, you can see "the vision serpent" along the ground beneath the Crock/Hippo/Whale/mankind(Jonah?) sculpture .. this is at The Cathedral, Markahuasi, Peru, [and I would like to know which way the cliff dropoff at the site is facing]
I also wonder if that is the 33degrees up the side of the pyramid star; the blazing star which is in the current trendy books these days?
http://www.geocities.com/w_c_sally2000/ ... asi-02.jpg
Just plain:
http://www.geocities.com/w_c_sally2000/ ... huaski.jpg

Olmec: (Jonah in the whale? = Nazca?)
http://www.geocities.com/w_c_sally2000/ ... djustt.jpg

Now I grant you the middle of the boxes is not the same. .. And that X, if we put it in 3D -- will it not be the Hour Glass? .. Which also found an expression in the movie Tron, at the master main frame.

Also, the spread wings of the birds and the inverted human .. reminds me of the 5th hour of the Duat, and the wings and circle, cobras(vulture heads, necks) which is over all temple doors in Egypt.

So it seems this may have something to do with "incarnation" .. perhaps? Instead of a dove, they have a person glyph? But the stairs .. those have to be South American. Totally over the top numbers of stairs is prevalent there.

A bit more input for you. .. Got anymore of these neat images? .. That looks like Casey's Atlantis Power Crystal!!

[WCSally]

... ...Can magic words and sacred formulas and chants in fact exert an influence that differs from other sounds chosen at random? It seems so, and with Jenny's discovery of word patterns, I find myself looking with some discomfort and awe at St. John's assertion, "In the beginning was the Word."

From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#B.C3.B6n
QUOTE FROM WIKI:
Bön
Chakras, as pranic centres of the body, according to the Himalayan Bönpo tradition, influence the quality of experience, because movement of prana can not be separated from experience. Each of six major chakras are linked to experiential qualities of one of the six realms of existence.[11]
A modern teacher, Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche uses a computer analogy: main chakras are like hard drives. Each hard drive has many files. One of the files is always open in each of the chakras, no matter how "closed" that particular chakra may be. What is displayed by the file shapes experience.
The tsa lung practices such as those embodied in Trul Khor lineages open channels so lung (Lung is a Tibetan term cognate with prana or qi) may move without obstruction. Yoga opens chakras and evokes positive qualities associated with a particular chakra. In the hard drive analogy, the screen is cleared and a file is called up that contains positive, supportive qualities. A seed syllable (Sanskrit bija) is used both as a password that evokes the positive quality and the armour that sustains the quality.**[11]
Tantric practice eventually transforms all experience into bliss. The practice liberates from negative conditioning and leads to control over perception and cognition.[11]
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche teaches a version of the Six Lokas sadhana which works with the chakra system.

**Emphasis mine.

[WCSally]

David Thomson and Louis Lanzerotti, team members of the HISCALE experiment, on board Ulysses, together with colleagues Frank Vernon, Marc Lessard and Lindsay Smith, present evidence that proves that Earth moves to the rhythm of the Sun. They show that distinct, isolated tones, predicted to be generated by pressure and gravity waves in the Sun, are present in a wide variety of terrestrial systems.

Thanks for this one!!

June 30, 2009: Bye, Bye Ulysses! ... Why now of all times?
It would seem to me that this spacecraft would be just coming upon some of the most relevant data it could ever collect! ..
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-104

The news page:
http://ulysses.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press_releases.html

[WCSally]

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMJJYUL05F_index_0.html :
Thomson believes that the key to the problem is magnetism. He suggests that the g-mode vibrations are picked up by the magnetic field at the Sun’s surface. Part of this magnetic field is then carried away from Sun into interplanetary space by solar wind, where it can be detected by space probes like Ulysses.

That 'g-modes are picked up by the magnetic field' is worth
thinking about. Feels like a solid surface would produce a
magnetic field when it's charged surface oscillated.

Mo
OP "Mo"

I think I have read that the polar magnetics have stalled and are circling the sun with the horizontal magnetics (there are two fields at the equator, and one that runs through the poles ... usually). They are wondering if this is part of the no sunspot issue.

I wonder if it is in response to the passing of the middle of the Galaxy?

[Grey Cloud]

Sally wrote:

I wonder if it is in response to the passing of the middle of the Galaxy?

The Sun does that every year, does it not?

[seasmith]

WCSally wrote:

Now I grant you the middle of the boxes is not the same. .. And that X, if we put it in 3D -- will it not be the Hour Glass? ...
Also, the spread wings of the birds and the inverted human .. reminds me of the 5th hour of the Duat, and the wings and circle, cobras(vulture heads, necks) which is over all temple doors in Egypt.


The "human" is inverted. Probably on his way to Xibalba, but the 3D X''s remind me a bit of this:




http://www.theplasmaverse.com/verse/squ ... lyphs.html
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[WCSally]

Sally wrote:

I wonder if it is in response to the passing of the middle of the Galaxy?

The Sun does that every year, does it not?

Actually no, we bob up and down in the galaxy ecliptic, and only do this every so many centuries (I believe). I have not found the numbers of the cycle, but this is the topic of the Mayan Long Count (which says I have not read enough on the Long Count!) ..

At Izapa in South America the Long Count was not only worked out (using the topography and motions of the universe), but it was set up as a teaching center to disseminate the new calendar. This is when the Hero Twins Darted Seven Macaw out of the Hulupa Tree (tree of life).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_Twins

Ostensibly, Seven Macaw had taught that the Pole was the place of the center (Duat), and really it is galactic center (seems even myths may be fabricated for mass consumption). For this misleading of the people, he was "removed". I see in the Wiki page, Seven Macaw was seen as a negative factor, and it was not just for his "teaching".

So .. to answer your query, no it is not annual.

I wonder what things it may correlate with .. clearly it was of great importance to the Olmec, who build Izapa.

[WCSally]

The "human" is inverted. Probably on his way to Xibalba, but the 3D X''s remind me a bit of this:

Awesome image! (are there more?)

I can see the "reminds me" part, but a one to one correlation no.

The first tower, Atlantis? It's crowning achievement the Power Crystal. The Third Age of man?

The second tower, the Hero Twins (Zeus/Athena in South America) and the overcoming of the underworld by the surface world? ... The Fourth Age of man?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... Da)_MQ.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_ ... of_Xibalba
Could Xibalba correlate to the infamous Tiamat taken down by Marduk?

And now we are in the 5th Age.

Interesting!
Roman Labarum and Christian Chi Rho = the four directions and the pole of rotation.??

From the America's, to Australia to Europe everyone saw the same thing in the skies.

Is it possible that the Zpinch of the now only two rings and a middle item in Orion was seen on Earth? That might explain it.
It also might explain why the sign of Poseidon was the Trident; and the sign of Egypt the ankh? (And the arms up is the sign on Egyptian coffins and conveys "firend" in silent meetings in the South American jungle among natives; and the 'desperate circumstance sign' of Masons?

Was the root of a people lost in a stellar event in the Orion Nebula?
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((Having read The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls by Chris Morton and Cerie Louise Thomas -- I now believe there are 12 home worlds of humans in the Orion Arm of the Milkyway. This book was paradigm changing for me! (The twisted hairs society story, esp.)))

http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/t ... ottery.jpg
I know it sounds odd, but if there are images of all sides, are they the same? Or could this be a record of a change in the orientation of the axis of the planet? ... what are those graduated line markings on the sides of the "jack shaped" object?
I have read that the Dendera Zodiac records the change of the axial tilt after the visit of Thphon.

Thanks for the URL!!
Awesome additional links!!
http://www.theplasmaverse.com/verse/squ ... lyphs.html

[seasmith]

Grey Cloud wrote:
Sally wrote:
I wonder if it is in response to the passing of the middle of the Galaxy?
The Sun does that every year, does it not?


Actually no, we bob up and down in the galaxy ecliptic, and only do this every so many centuries (I believe). I have not found the numbers of the cycle, but this is the topic of the Mayan Long Count (which says I have not read enough on the Long Count!)

Linda Schele discovered that the World Tree is a literal depiction of the heavens as well as an abstract symbol. Her investigations, vividly recounted in Maya Cosmos, led her to the conclusion that the Milky Way is the World Tree. The Maya long count was initiated on or about August 13 in 3114 BC, the date of Creation. At dawn in mid-August, the Milky Way stands erect, running through the zenith from north to south. It becomes the axis of the heavens, the raised up sky.

But the connection between Creation and the Milky Way does not end here. Schele discovered that the changing aspect of the Milky Way on the night of August 13 every year reflects the events recorded in Maya accounts of Creation.

To view the changing aspects of the sky in order, click here or on any Milky Way image

The Quiche still identify the seven stars of the Big Dipper with Seven Macaw. At sunset on August 13, the Milky Way is nearly erect, and the Dipper is visible in the the northern sky in the Maya area. But as the heavens rotate, the Milky Way turns away from its upright position, and the Dipper dives toward the horizon. About two hours after sunset, the Dipper sets: Seven Macaw is knocked from his perch atop the World Tree. Dennis Tedlock reports that among the Quiche, the mid-summer descent of the Dipper just after sunset marks the beginning of the hurricane season, the time of flooding.

http://members.shaw.ca/mjfinley/creation.html

A site comparing work of authors Linda Schele and David Tedlock

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There are plenty more images of probable plasmic events compared in petroglyphs and lab experiments here:

See pdf link at url previous post
http://www.theplasmaverse.com/verse/squ ... lyphs.html
Anthony Peratt - "Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High Current Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity"

[WCSally]

I was hoping for more of those images which look more Cymatic, but the Maya stuff is of great interest as well.
And I have only gotten little past half way through this thread. So not going to pester you yet.

In the Book of Thoth he does not really come into his own, until the greater Gods, who are his progenitors, have passed through their cycle, and lesser ones are then in control of the Earth. Then he begins his earnest mission on behalf of Humanity. So cycles of being are recognized by this teacher of mankind.

The Maya were very cognizant of anatomy. The Sacred Tree is very reminiscent of the female reproductive tract. It does in fact build the web of life of humans. Quetzalcoatl was the God of this tree (I think). The Female was "made?" in Malta .. ?? .. can't remember where I picked this idea up, but the word for mother, or woman or wife in Ancient Malta is "Unit of Reconstitution" .. and this info is from Atlantis Rising e-zine.

The Egyptians have Cygnus and the Center of the Galaxy as the Sacred Goddess Nut, the Sky Goddess. Cygnus it seems can send us EM via a variable streaming star's energy patterns which may be able to interact with our DNA. It may have been part of the issues humans were having when the Crystal Skulls were made. The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls was a paradigm changing book for me .. it is an easy read over a week end, and the second half is really something.

I suspect we have entered our own age of growing crystals for specific purposes. Mitchell-Hedges Max of *Lubaantun (a white block built edifice on a ridge in Beliz, will be an example of how complex and intricate such a work can be. Max was/is? telepathic, and may have been the skull of the Templars?? [*Mayan city of Lubaantum, located in British Honduras, now Belize --in Wiki only one white brick wall, many smaller slate structures.]

Which brings us to Rosslyn and the Cymatics which were placed in it's arches on their small diamond shapes; (not unlike this crystal of Sodium Carbonate (Natrium) .. page down a little: http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia- ... art-3.html

What are the Roslyn patterns, and why are they on an arch, and might they be the harmonics of the Tree of Life (not the Sacred Tree of the Maya, but the Tree of Life -- World Wide: --Where you see the 4 winged Ancient Gods approaching it with buckets and pine cones (pineals?) (there is that 4 again)
... ... ...
At Marcahuasi, Peru there are 12 points of healing energy marked by symbols; most cannot be tolerated by non-adept or non-adept prepared humans .. they are too strong. But the tradition says they are there to heal people, and people do become well again on the Plateau, even from back injuries. The plateau exports some $10,000 in medicinal herbs annually (and it is a very high altitude plateau). I have not seen any Chaldini patterns from the Marcahuasi Pleateau. I think it may be something which will be done in the future.

I wonder if they will turn out to be the Solfegio Frequencies?
I wonder if the images in Roslyn are Solfegio Frequencies? Or healing frequencies? Or is there no difference?

And if this is all addressed later in the thread, which I have not finished ... sorry for jumping the thread.

[WCSally]

Who sent me to this site?
Thank you!!
http://www.humanresonance.org/index.html
http://www.humanresonance.org/mana.html

What a treasure heap is in these pages!
.. and the springs of El Dorado? ... The curing water?

And even here ... Fuzzy Quantum Jumping (out of my league, but certainly of interest here .. if you all have not read it already). Quantum Jumps, EEQT and the Five Platonic Fractals
http://quantumfuture.net/arkadiusz-jadc ... index.html

Could someone tell me what a Platonic Fractal is? ... Please.

[GaryN]

Re:http://www.humanresonance.org/index.html

Very interesting, but keep in mind:

For example, sound is not a vibration of the air. A sound wave, we know today, is an electromagnetic process involving the rapid assembly and disassembly of geometrical configurations of molecules. In modern physics, this kind of self-organizing process is known as a "soliton." Although much more detailed experimental work needs to be done, we know in principle that different frequencies of coherent solitons correspond to distinct geometries on the microscopic or quantum level of organization of the process. This was already indicated by the work of Helmholtz's contemporary, Bernhard Riemann, who refuted most of the acoustic doctrines of Helmholtz in his 1859 paper on acoustical shock waves.

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91 ... _tune.html

And just in case you run out of things to read on the TB site WCSally the Dowsing and the Lattice thread has some prior discussions, both before and after this post, on the Egyptians, sound and transducers:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 345#p20306

[WCSally]

Re:http://www.humanresonance.org/index.html

Very interesting, but keep in mind:

For example, sound is not a vibration of the air. A sound wave, we know today, is an electromagnetic process involving the rapid assembly and disassembly of geometrical configurations of molecules. In modern physics, this kind of self-organizing process is known as a "soliton." Although much more detailed experimental work needs to be done, we know in principle that different frequencies of coherent solitons correspond to distinct geometries on the microscopic or quantum level of organization of the process. This was already indicated by the work of Helmholtz's contemporary, Bernhard Riemann, who refuted most of the acoustic doctrines of Helmholtz in his 1859 paper on acoustical shock waves.

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91 ... _tune.html

And just in case you run out of things to read on the TB site WCSally the Dowsing and the Lattice thread has some prior discussions, both before and after this post, on the Egyptians, sound and transducers:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 345#p20306

self-organizing process? ... maybe self sustaining process?

I don't think any sound wave is going to qualify for soliton status. However the orbits of the planets might.
The harmonic of the GP might .. being coupled to the Earth .. [they were really keen on working with the items at hand .. a knack we seem to have trodden on].
Egyptians .. sound, pyramids, and Numo Fish! The really tricky item there is the pyramid (shape).
Elegant fractal principles might be called soliton-esque! The double membrane for instance?

The Schiller Institute is into THE basics .. and the Solfegio is there somewhere as well. A tunes to ?.. forgot. Down a bit, actually. This is to the heart of the matter. Nice Page. Have you looked at Dan Winter and Stan Tenen? (I will admit to being a Merkaba hugger.)

As you are miles ahead of me, what might be the variance in a wave in AEther, as opposed to a wave in an atmosphere? There is certainly something in EU theory about this one, as the AEther seems to be a necessary component (but I did not get quite why).
I am glad it is back, myself, but it must needs have it's properties ... and it sounded a bit like a BEC?


... re: Human resonance. org
I wonder if that Earth size Fractal under the harmonics was mathematically placed or visually placed? It worked well! Quite attention getting, in fact. Can you imagine life without salt in your body? ... What happens when your salt is all replaced by nano metals? ... by conducting nano metals! .. OUCH comes to mind! The sleeping Buddha comes next to mind. Terminator comes to mind! {The circle and the square.} One really might seek big spheres of granite and mud to hide within!! Finally Rollins fiction book makes good sense!!