Recovered: Cymatics

[bboyer]

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Natural interfaces for musical expression: physiphones and a physics-based organology

ABSTRACT

This paper presents two main ideas:

(1) Various newly invented liquid-based or underwater musical instruments are proposed that function like woodwind instruments but use water instead of air. These "woodwater" instruments expand the space of known instruments to include all three states of matter: solid (strings, percussion); liquid (the proposed instruments); and gas (brass and woodwinds). Instruments that use the fourth state of matter (plasma) are also proposed.

(2) Although the current trend in musical interfaces has been to expand versatililty and generality by separating the interface from the sound-producing medium, this paper identifies an opposite trend in musical interface design inspired by instruments such as the harp, the acoustic or electric guitar, the tin whistle, and the Neanderthal flute, that have a directness of user-interface, where the fingers of the musician are in direct physical contact with the sound-producing medium. The newly invented instruments are thus designed to have this sensually tempting intimacy not be lost behind layers of abstraction, while also allowing for the high degree of virtuosity. Examples presented include the poseidophone, an instrument made from an array of ripple tanks, each tuned for a particular note, and the hydraulophone, an instrument in which sound is produced by pressurized hydraulic fluid that is in direct physical contact with the fingers of the player. Instruments based on these primordial media tend to fall outside existing classifications and taxonomies of known musical instruments which only consider instruments that make sound with solid or gaseous states of matter. To better understand and contextualize some of the new primordial user interfaces, a broader concept of musical instrument classification is proposed that considers the states of matter of both the user-interface and the sound production medium.

http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1 ... E&dl=GUIDE

[webolife]

Bryan,
I'm a musician myself, and love seeing interrelationships between music and cosmology. Kepler turned me on to this, but Bode's Law and the hexagonal structure of the solar system also exhibit musical quality. Have you considered the fact that sound, as we know it, as a pressure wave through the air, liquid, or solid medium is propagated through quasi-elastic electrical interactions between molecules/atoms of the medium? Electricity is at the heart of all music already!

[bboyer]

Bryan,
I'm a musician myself, and love seeing interrelationships between music and cosmology. Kepler turned me on to this, but Bode's Law and the hexagonal structure of the solar system also exhibit musical quality. Have you considered the fact that sound, as we know it, as a pressure wave through the air, liquid, or solid medium is propagated through quasi-elastic electrical interactions between molecules/atoms of the medium? Electricity is at the heart of all music already!

Well, not in so many words, now that you mention it. But that is very true and quite profound should one decide to follow it all the way through. So where were you when I started this page ump-teen pages ago???

Oh, btw, you forgot one: plasma.

[StefanR]

http://www.auroralchorus.com/
http://www.spaceweathersounds.com/
Welcome to the Realm of
Natural VLF Radio Phenomena
"The (very beautiful) Music of the Magnetosphere and Space Weather"

The Duet of Nature and Cosmos Plucking the Magnetic Cords of an Electrified Instrument.

[webolife]

@rc-us said:

Well, not in so many words, now that you mention it. But that is very true and quite profound should one decide to follow it all the way through. So where were you when I started this page ump-teen pages ago???
Oh, btw, you forgot one: plasma.

Not so profound... simple-minded. In fact, the universal electricality of nature has made me begin to think of liquid plasma, solid plasma, and gaseous plasma, with the astronomical connections uniting plasmas at galactic to nuclear scales. Language has been a real challenge for me in these forums, especially JL's posts... after hours of reading and rereading, I begin to be able to perhaps relate to a concept behind the jargon, and realize another brick has been kicked from the wall of semantics. Ump-teen pages ago, I was learning how to spell "chime-atics".

[StefanR]

ArcAttack Home - Singing Tesla Coil Videos!
http://www.arcattack.com/

[bboyer]

ArcAttack Home - Singing Tesla Coil Videos!
http://www.arcattack.com/

Yee-ha! From the old forum:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ff_AXVlo9U

"This is a solid-state Tesla coil. The primary runs at its resonant frequency in the 41 KHz range, and is modulated from the control unit in order to generate the tones you hear.

So just to explain a little further, yes, it is the actual high voltage sparks that are making the noise. Every cycle of the music is a burst of sparks at 41 KHz, triggered by digital circuitry at the end of a "long" piece of fiber optics.

What's not immediately obvious in this video is how loud this is. Many people were covering their ears, dogs were barking. In the sections where the crowd is cheering and the coils is starting and stopping, you can hear the the crowd is drowned out by the coil when it's firing.

This Tesla coil was built and is owned by Steve Ward. Steve is a EE student at U of I Urbana-Champaign. He and Jeff have been going to Teslathons, which is where they met.

It's been suggested that a good name for this coil would be the "Zeusaphone". "Thoremin" has also been mentioned, though personally I think we need Theramin type inputs for that.

To answer a few questions I've received, YES, someone did yell 'Play Freebird!' after the first round of music."

Oh, yeah, and this one also from the old forum ... not singing in music we'd particularly recognize at the get-go, nor Tesla, but pretty damn impressive!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... rAKkjrG6BA

(this screen snapshot doesn't do it justice! Notice the comparative size of the truck and the guy standing at the lower-left. Video's short, like 7 seconds)

This one, of a slightly different character, is pretty cool, too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... rAKkjrG6BA

[junglelord]

Now that I am 1/3 of the way into the APM book Secrets of the Aether it is ovbious that the Fractual nature of the Aether unit and its Geometry is reflected in Cymatics perfectly. As music progesses in Logarithmic Harmonics so does the Geometry of the Aether Quantum Strucutre.

[bboyer]

http://www.auroralchorus.com/
http://www.spaceweathersounds.com/
Welcome to the Realm of
Natural VLF Radio Phenomena
"The (very beautiful) Music of the Magnetosphere and Space Weather"

The Duet of Nature and Cosmos Plucking the Magnetic Cords of an Electrified Instrument.

Yessir. And check out back on pg 9, the post called Singing The Universe Electric, Part II

[bboyer]

Now that I am 1/3 of the way into the APM book Secrets of the Aether it is ovbious that the Fractual nature of the Aether unit and its Geometry is reflected in Cymatics perfectly. As music progesses in Logarithmic Harmonics so does the Geometry of the Aether Quantum Strucutre.

Way ahead of me. A paltry pg. 14 (even still, from a couple weeks ago ). Ok, truf' is I've been fooling around way too much on-line and need to get back to hard copy study time.

[StefanR]

Yessir. And check out back on pg 9

Indeed. Now I'm getting confused if we are going in circles or going back and forth through this thread

Ok, I know we shouldn't over do it with the Youtubes but let me point out the last one with an orchestral masterpiece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEAtWiUGeiA

and call it a quits for me with a bang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY72athc ... re=related

[bboyer]

Yessir. And check out back on pg 9

Indeed. Now I'm getting confused if we are going in circles or going back and forth through this thread

Ok, I know we shouldn't over do it with the Youtubes but let me point out the last one with an orchestral masterpiece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEAtWiUGeiA

Holy *!%$, Batman! Around the 00:03:54 mark, the house. I don' even wanna think about the breakdown associated with the Saturn Hypothesis.

and call it a quits for me with a bang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY72athc ... re=related

Son-of-a-@%#$* pretty much sums it up for me, too.

[Grey Cloud]

Oh Bryan, Bryan, Bryan. You star.
Followed your link from the other thread and have read my way through every post in this one. Skipped much of the techy stuff as it goes well over what's left of my head.
I had no idea what cymatics was but I had come across a video of someone doing stuff with sand or rice on a snare drum or similar, many moons ago.
I am familiar with Benveniste and Hado and Sheldrake and several other names/topics mentioned in this thread.
I am going to have to digest this stuff for a while but a couple of things which spring to mind

1. In a fantasy book by either Raymond E Fiest or David Eddings, an older magician is teaching his pupil and he says to him that magic is just 'the Will and the Word'.
2. I'm not sure whether it is in Genesis or one of the books of the Apocrypha but what I'm thinking of is where Adam names all the animals. A similar thing is mentioned in the Popul Vuh. Academics don't get this but to me it is simple: when you 'name' something you create the vibration of that thing and bring it into being.
3. I read somewhere else, maybe an alchemy book, that it is Thought, Will and Word.

Wow man, thanks muchly for pointing me at this thread.

[Grey Cloud]

Tying this back to Lizzie's post in the Quantavolution thread.
What I think happens is that whenever we go through a 'seasonal' change in the precession we get a sort of re-tuning or moved on to a different frequency or something along those lines.
Any physical changes, e.g. bicameral mind, schizo-whotsit or whatever, are effect not cause.
And IMHO it should be bicameral brain not mind.

[Grey Cloud]

Another name which might fit into this tangled thread is Viktor Schauberger. For those who don't know him, he's like a Tesla for water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Schauberger

http://www.schauberger.co.uk/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAAArAiXGc
The vid is in German but you see a shot of one of his machines and log flumes.