26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by lizzie » Wed May 21, 2008 8:20 pm

Fulcanelli, and the Decoding of the Hendaye Monument

Galactic Superwave Theory
http://www.etheric.com/LaViolette/Predict.html

LaViolette hypothesized that galactic core explosions recur about every 10,000 years and last for several hundred to a few thousand years.

LaViolette discovered that the ancient star lore connected with the Sagittarius and Scorpius constellations indicated the location of the Galactic center, conveyed the idea of an explosive outburst, and specified a significant past date of 13,865 ± 150 years B.C. which also is encoded in the ancient Egyptian Dendereh zodiac. Also LaViolette found that myths, customs and esoteric lore descendent from prehistoric times indicated that cosmic rays from a Galactic core explosion catastrophically affect the Earth and solar system in recurrent cycles with the most recent event occurring near the end of the last ice age.

Galactic Cosmic Ray Volleys: A Coming Global Disaster
http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/Galactic.html

The Alpha and the Omega
http://www.mazzaroth.com/TableOfContents.htm

The Hendaye Monument Decoded
http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/hendaye.html

Fulcanelli and the Secret of the End of Time
http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/intro.html

The Underground Stream and Fulcanelli's Message
http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/prologue.html

The Theoretical Tree
http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/milieu.html

The World Tree, The Canon and the Cabala
http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/worldtree.html

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Thu May 22, 2008 12:58 pm

Hi Lizzie
Thanks for the links. I have read Fulcanelli's MotC and it is an interesting if enigmatic book. I have read Weidner and Bridges' stuff and prefer Weidner to Bridges. I am also familiar with LaViolette's ideas which I have a certain sympathy with. The Mazzaroth guy is a new one on me but I've started reading his book.
That something happened between, say, 20,000 and 10,000 years ago seems highly probable. Whether there was an ice age prior to that, my personal jury is still out. Whether that something came from the galactic centre or some other part of the heavens - don't know. I am however, more or less convinced that it came from somewhere in the heavens rather than Saturn.
What are your thoughts on LaViolette et al?
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and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by moses » Thu May 22, 2008 5:42 pm

I was very interested in LaViolette and the Hendaye Monument just before
I found Wal and EU. The tarot card depictions on the Hendaye cross are
fascinating, and I feel that the tarot tells the story of the history of humanity
and the Earth. Just how much of this history was or is known by various
secret societies is unknown to me. Without the key of the Saturn System, I
feel that the present-day explanations just don't cut it.

There may be waves travelling through the galaxy, or electrical pulses. But
without the knowledge of Earth once being in a totally different orbit, one
will see 10,000 year cycles, which actually are only ~100 year orbital cycles.
The ice formed fast in the elliptical orbit - plenty of evaporation together
with plenty of cold.

i also would love to hear Lizzie's personal viewsand conclusions on such things.
Mo

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 24, 2008 9:05 am

Grey Cloud: What are your thoughts on LaViolette et al?
Moses: I also would love to hear Lizzie's personal views and conclusions on such things
Well, I decided to review Jenkin’s “Galactic Alignment” theories based on three recent “sources” I read:

The first is Dr. Dmitriev:

Dr. Dmitriev and "Tornado Physics"
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... =616#p5644

The second is the EMT theory:

The Electromagnetotoroid (EMT)
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... =643#p5962

The third is the “Divine Cosmos” series:

THE DIVINE COSMOS, PROLOGUE: THE MYSTERY IS REVEALED
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

THE BREAKTHROUGHS OF DR. N.A. KOZYREV
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

LIGHT ON QUANTUM PHYSICS
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

SACRED GEOMETRY IN THE QUANTUM REALM
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

LARGE-SCALE GEOMETRIC ENERGY FORMS
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

THE UNIVERSAL HEARTBEAT
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

SPHERICAL ENERGY STRUCTURES IN THE COSMOS
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

HARNESSING TORSION WAVES AND CONSCIOUSNESS
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36

What is Galactic Alignment?
http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm

The Sacred Geometry of Global Change
http://www.lunarplanner.com/HolyCross.html

A review of John Major Jenkins' book
Galactic Alignment:
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Mess ... gnment2012
But now the knowledge and truth is out, and Jenkins has revealed it through the ingenious synthesis and interweaving of scholarly works of many authors from around the world. Galactic Alignment presents a wide-spread recognition of how all ancient cultures were aware that alignments to the galactic center do periodically occur, and that these alignments offer spiritual renewal for humanity --- not catastrophe and destruction as is commonly promoted by modern-day interpretations of the end time.

Several magnificent works published in the late 20th century need to be read to fully appreciate the breadth and scope of Jenkins' synthesis. Here is mention of a few:

Hamlet's Mill by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha Von Dechend, a study which took over ten years of dedicated research leading to Santillana's expulsion from M.I.T. in Cambridge, Massachusetts for his unconventional point of view on interpreting the mythology of ancient civilizations

A most astounding work, published in 1999 by Jay Weidner and Vincent Bridges, is called A Monument to the End of Time: Alchemy, Fulcanelli and the Great Cross at Hendaye. It clearly shows how significant the understanding of the galactic alignment was to all ancient civilizations going back to pre-Egyptian times, and right up to the present day

Another masterpiece of synthesis is Cosmic Humanism by the late Dr. Oliver L. Reiser from the University of Pittsburgh's philosophy department.

“… the coil of life (DNA) which supplies the architectural pattern for the fabrication of all organisms has something to do with the earth's rotation and its magnetic polarities, and the cosmic ray showers which originate in our own spiral galaxy.”
The author Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, and her book The Gnostic Circle (published in 1978) has also been a keystone piece of information which allowed Jenkins to further confirm aspects of the galactic center as written into ancient Vedic philosophies. Jenkins states that The Gnostic Circle is "a deep, intuitive, and complex work." The book, according to Jenkins, contains an almost matter-of-fact description of the evolutionary implications of our periodic alignments with the Galactic Center. Norelli-Bachelet states:
“There is the mysterious center that keeps all the stars in orbit around itself. This Centre, that Science knows so little of as yet, is located with respect to our Sun and planet in the direction of the Constellation Hercules or the zodiacal sign Capricorn, and slowly, at the rate of 12 miles per second ... our sun orbits around and moves closer to this solar apex, as it is called. That is, at the end of December each year, the earth is directly behind the sun with respect to this Great Void; our solar system with our planet is being drawn ever closer to this colossal Magnet.
I highlighted the ideas I found interesting:

Excerpts from “Galactic Alignment”, Chapter 20, “Reiserian Cosmecology: Galactic Alignments and Evolution” - pages 238-248
It is a curious fact that the Galactic Center is just about 26,000 light years from Earth. The number of years it would take light, or energy, or a superwave burst of energy traveling at the speed of light equals the cycle of precession

The fact that precession and the distance to the Galactic Center are linked suggests, as LaViolette explained, some kind of entrainment between superwave bursts and the precessional cycle. He suggests that when the earth’s North Pole is tilted away from the Galactic Center, a superwave burst arriving at that time would propel the earth to wobble on its axis. Repeated bursts at regular long-range intervals then entrain the earth’s wobble to the superwave periodicity.

The sense is that something is emanating from the Galactic Center is responsible for precession. Alignment or superwave?

We in fact exist within the energetic field of the Milky Way galaxy. The changing orientation of our local Earth-Sun system to this field is what is occurring with precession.

The Galactic Center is a giant field generator to the degree that the rotational plane of our solar system naturally entrains itself to it.

We can say that the earth’s field is related to, and responds to, the field of the galaxy in which it exists. Secondarily, we can also emphasize that the earth’s angular orientation to this field is changing with precession.

In the end we have the ever-changing relationship between the planes of Earth, Sun (or solar system), and galaxy. Precession is the timing factor behind these ever-shifting planes, and again we ask why 26,000 years.

“Sub-atomic Wave-Particle Electrodynamics” – a section called “Gyromagnetic Proton. Precession and Field Strength”

Proton precession?? The section described a little known electrodynamic principle that operates on protons. Within a larger, encompassing electromagnetic field, a proton exhibits a precessional wobble, very much like the earth's wobble on its axis.

Precession would therefore appear to be keyed – directly and immediately, not through the agency of superwaves – to the electromagnetic field-generating dynamics of the Galactic Center.

I then came across the work of Oliver Reiser, whose philosophical system perceived the Galactic Center as a formative influence on the evolution of consciousness:

“What is here being proposed is that we explore at greater length the possibilities inherent in the analogy between the human brain and the spiral galaxy, thus transforming the galactic disc into the cosmic lens endowing it with the generative capacity that the brain of man possess. This, if valid, would mean that both galaxy and brain can serve as time-spanning (intelligent) guidance systems for their respective sensoria.

His main interest was in the relationship between geomagnetic field forces and human evolution.

His Psi Bank describes a field of energy above the earth that influences human consciousness.

Modern-day cataclysmologists point to random acts such as asteroid strikes to explain punctuated evolution, and this does indeed seem to be the case in several scenarios. Reiser didn’t believe that the universe could evolve planetary systems and conscious beings through such random acts.

Concluding that evolution was primarily stimulated by periodic increases in cosmic rays, he searched for a cosmic source of enhanced mutational rays that was regular and periodic. His thought was that the geological scale of evolution should be related to a large astronomical cycle and the orbit of our solar system around the Galactic Center—roughly 300 million years – seemed to fit the bill. But he identified two problems in this supposition, one of which was that “there does not appear to be any reason why a period 300,000,000-year ‘day’ should make any difference in the sending and receiving of any extra heavy dose of cosmic rays.

This consideration then shifted his focus to looking at another mechanism that would lower the protective radiation belts around the earth and thereby allow a greater cascade of mutational rays to the surface. The ionosphere is an electromagnetically charged blanket that effectively shields the earth from the potentially deadly ocean of cosmic rays that surround it. If the earth’s magnetic field were temporarily nulled – perhaps during a magnetic pole flip – then for days or weeks a huge amount of mutational rays would reach the living beings on the earth’s surface. In This Holyest Erthe, Reiser notes that the earth’s field is currently decreasing in strength, and the next reversal could be upon us soon. But what might trigger such a magnetic-field reversal?

Reiser’s rebuttal to Uffen notes that his main point was ignored -- that changing field dynamics are linked to his theory of biological evolution. Writing in the mid-1960s he reiterates his primary “hunch” that “the coil of life (DNA) which supplies the architectural pattern for the fabrication of all organisms has something to do with the earth’s rotation and its magnetic polarities, and …cosmic ray showers might originate…in our own spiral galaxy.”

Over many decades Reiser tried to identify the basic mechanism that changed the earth’s magnetic orientation to the larger galactic plane of field forces to complete his cosmecology theory of biological evolution. Unfortunately, he seemed to be unaware of the concept of galactic alignment.
Is there any “hard science” to back this up?

The earth as a Geomagnetic Dynamo?

The Geodynamo
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~glatz/geodynamo.html
One part of this numerical solution is the rotation rate of the solid inner core relative to the surface, which evolves according to the torque applied on the inner core by the generated magnetic field. This mechanism is analogous to a synchronous electric motor for which the field, carried eastward by the fluid, acts like the rotating field in the stator and the inner core acts like the rotor
Superfluid Gyroscope with Cold Atomic Gases
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v86/i21/p4725_1
A trapped Bose-Einstein condensed atomic gas containing a quantized vortex is predicted to exhibit precession after a sudden rotation of the confining potential. The equations describing the motion of the condensate are derived and the effects of superfluidity explicitly pointed out. The dependence of the precession frequency on the relevant parameters of the problem is discussed. The proposed gyroscope is well suited to explore rotational effects at the level of single quanta of circulation
Geomagnetic response to sudden expansions of the magnetosphere
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/1988/88JA01117.shtml
The geomagnetic response to five successive sudden expansions of the magnetosphere was examined by the use of magnetic data observed on the ground and by satellites. At the geosynchronous orbit between 0800 and 1100 LT the magnetic field component parallel to Earth’s rotation axis decreased successively.
The Earth as a Gyroscope (a spinning top) that is “winding down” and needs to be “rewound”

The quantum gyroscope
http://cs.jpl.nasa.gov/qct/qGyro.htm
The quantum gyroscope is an idea invented by Jon Dowling in our group. If two particles, entangled in a special way, are fed into a two-port Mach-Zehnder interferometer, the phase sensitivity scales as the Heisenberg limited DELTA phi = O(1/N) where N is the number of particles incident per unit time.
The Galactic Center: The Great Void -- "our solar system with our planet is being drawn ever closer to this colossal Magnet"

Electromagnetotoroid (EMT)
http://www.telestream.com/~singtech/pages/contents.html

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 24, 2008 4:31 pm

Whether that something came from the galactic centre or some other part of the heavens - don't know. I am however, more or less convinced that it came from somewhere in the heavens rather than Saturn
Well, I try to consider any reasonable "model" since I can't prove otherwise:

Does the Sun have a Binary Twin?

Evidence mounts for sun's companion star
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 042406.php
The Binary Research Institute (BRI) has found that orbital characteristics of the recently discovered planetoid, "Sedna", demonstrate the possibility that our sun might be part of a binary star system. A binary star system consists of two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. Once thought to be highly unusual, such systems are now considered to be common in the Milky Way galaxy
Sun has binary partner, may affect the Earth
http://www.physorg.com/news6428.html
Researching archaeological and astronomical data at the unique think tank, the Binary Research Institute, Cruttenden concludes that the movement of the solar system plays a more important role in life than people realize, and he challenges some preconceived notions:

The phenomenon known as the precession of the equinox, fabled as a marker of time by ancient peoples, is not due to a local wobbling of the Earth as modern theory portends, but to the solar system's gentle curve through space.

This movement of the solar system occurs because the Sun has a companion star; both stars orbit a common center of gravity, as is typical of most double star systems. The grand cycle–the time it takes to complete one orbit––is called a "Great Year," a term coined by Plato.

Cruttenden explains the effect on earth with an analogy: "Just as the spinning motion of the earth causes the cycle of day and night, and just as the orbital motion of the earth around the sun causes the cycle of the seasons, so too does the binary motion cause a cycle of rising and falling ages over long periods of time, due to increasing and decreasing electromagnet effects generated by our sun and other nearby stars."

While the findings in Lost Star are controversial, astronomers now agree that most stars are likely part of a binary or multiple star system. Dr. Richard A. Muller, professor of physics at UC Berkeley and research physicist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, is an early proponent of a companion star to our sun; he prefers a 26 million year orbit period. Cruttenden uses 24,000 years and says the change in angular direction can be seen in the precession of the equinox.
Nemesis - Dr. Richard A. Muller
http://muller.lbl.gov/
The "Nemesis Theory" was an outgrowth of the discovery of Alvarez et al., that the impact of a large (>10 km diameter) comet or asteroid was responsible for the great mass extinction that took place 65 million years ago.

Nemesis is most likely a red dwarf star, magnitude between 7 and 12. Virtually all such stars have been catalogued, but very few of them have had their distance measured. It is likely that Nemesis, if it exists, will be visible with binoculars or a small telescope.

We don't need a large telescope to find Nemesis. We need a small or medium telescope, and enough time to look at and analyze 3000 candidate stars. A series of images taken throughout the year should allow us to measure the large parallax of this star. We are also eliminating the stars measured by the Hipparcos satellite.

We began the search for Nemesis using the automated telescope at Leuschner Observatory. However this telescope was not designed for the heavy use it was receiving from this search and from our automated search for nearby supernova.
Cataclysm: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.
By D. S. Allan (Author), J. B. Delair (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Cataclysm-Compell ... 1879181428

Planet X:

ROBERT SUTTON HARRINGTON, 1942-1993
http://ad.usno.navy.mil/wds/history/harrington.html
Considerations on the stability of the solar system led Bob to collaborate with T.C. Van Flandern in studies of the dynamical evolution of its satellites, and to an eventual search for "Planet X", conjectured to lie beyond Pluto and to be responsible for small, unexplained, residuals in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune. Late in his career Bob seemed quite skeptical of such an object, however. Nevertheless, the program instituted at Flagstaff to photograph the outer planets and their satellites led to the spectacular discovery in 1978, by J.W. Christy, of Pluto's satellite. Bob's inspired guess that the period of revolution matched the already known period of light variation resulted in rapid determination of the orbital elements, and hence the mass of both planet and satellite.
Location of Planet X
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... tem07a.htm
Planet X, if it exists at all, is most likely to be found, at present, in the region of Scorpius, with a considerably likely less likelihood that it is in Taurus
(Scorpius and Taurus are also the locations for the galactic center and anticenter.)

The Exploded Planet Hypothesis 2000
Tom Van Flandern, Meta Research
http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp
The hypothesis of the explosion of a number of planets and moons of our solar system during its 4.6-billion-year history is in excellent accord with all known observational constraints, even without adjustable parameters. Many of its boldest predictions have been fulfilled. In most instances, these predictions were judged highly unlikely by the several standard models the eph would replace. And in several cases, the entire model was at risk to be falsified if the prediction failed. The successful predictions include: (1) satellites of asteroids; (2) satellites of comets; (3) salt water in meteorites; (4) “roll marks” leading to boulders on asteroids; (5) the time and peak rate of the 1999 Leonid meteor storm; (6) explosion signatures for asteroids; (7) strongly spiked energy parameter for new comets; (8) distribution of black material on slowly rotating airless bodies; (9) splitting velocities of comets; (10) Mars is a former moon of an exploded plane
Solaria Binaria (The Magnetic Tube – polar configuration)
http://www.grazian-archive.com/quantavo ... s/sb_1.pdf
The binary system rotates like a lopsided dumb-bell as it moves through galactic space. The Sun orbits about the planets and the companion as they also orbit about the Sun. To be precise, all bodies in the system orbit about its center of motion with the same period.
Jupiter can be taken to be the remnant binary partner.
The Spiral Galaxy at Saturn’s Pole
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/elect ... erse20.htm

SATURN'S CHILDREN
http://www.quantavolution.org/vol_03/ch ... ion_08.htm
"Two stars erupted from the planet Saturn and caused the Deluge." So states the Talmud, in Velikovsky's translation. This is one of the several principal conclusions reached by the other writers. Saturn was a second sun, shining by day and night upon Earth. The record of the star is preserved in the legends of every ancient people. It was the dominating star of its age and most of the basic mythology of the world is traceable to its varying aspects, behavior, and fate. After leaving its infinitely complex imprint upon Earth and mankind, Saturn exploded in a nova or collision; a deluge fell upon the Earth; and Jupiter became king of the heavenly hosts.

Whether Saturn achieved stardom and kingship by the route delineated in this book or by means of some other cosmogony, we see, in the age of Saturnia, a divine figure of exquisite symbolism.

Saturn replaced Uranus as binary sun and god some twelve thousand years ago. More correctly, it would be "Super-Saturn", for the birth of Jupiter from Saturn had not yet occurred. The transition from the one god to the other occurred as one more in the series of disasters, the climax of which to Solaria Binaria was the fissioning of the darker binary, Super-Uranus, while the climax to earthlings was the pass-by of the exploded body and the eruption of the Moon. The behavior of the Moon was foremost in human attention for many centuries.

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by moses » Sat May 24, 2008 5:51 pm

From Lizzie's post in blue.
our solar system with our planet is being drawn ever closer to this colossal Magnet.”

The sense is that something is emanating from the Galactic Center is responsible for precession. Alignment or superwave?

I now consider that precession is caused by the Solar System curving in it's
trajectory. This fits the facts well. Just what causes this curving is the issue.
Maybe a binary star, or group of stars, or maybe an electrical field.

But what might trigger such a magnetic-field reversal?
It is becoming clear to me that the Earth has flipped in the past. The latest
results of the analysis of petroglyphs by Peratt show few petroglyphs in low
lands and indicate that what I expect to be Saturn, Venus and Mars were in the
southern sky. This means flooding and a flip, to me. But there is plenty of
ancient myths about the underworld gods replacing the usual gods.

The magnetic field of the Earth may be predominantly a result of the electric
currents that flowed past and through the Earth when in the Saturn System.
Thus changes in this field seen in old rocks are then a result of changes in
this current flowing past or through the Earth, or else due to a flip of the Earth.

Thus when I read about galactic waves, and there is talk about evidence of past
waves hitting the Earth, I am very careful. Most cyclical events were caused by
the orbital situation the Earth was once in. Also the possibility of pulsed electric
currents travelling through the galaxy, as well as the galaxy being broken up into
plasma cells with bordering double layers with large electrical potentials across
such, makes galactic waves less significant. However, I do find the timing of
the giant Indian Ocean earthquake 40 hours after the massive gamma ray burst,
as evidence of a wave effecting the Earth.

Basically, I think it amazing that we have gone 2000 - 3000 years without a major
change. But the Earth may still be millions of years old, and long civilizations may
have inhabited the Earth. There's plenty to find out !
Mo

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by lizzie » Sun May 25, 2008 6:58 pm

Stargates and the Precession of the Equinox

Adrian Gilbert - Stargate
http://www.adriangilbert.co.uk/stargate.htm
I first wrote about the theory of stargates in The Mayan Prophecies [Published 1995] but at the time I did not realise just how important these "gates" are for understanding certain prophecies contained in the Bible.

Now of course the idea of physical "stargates" at the points where the ecliptic intersects with the Milky Way is a metaphor. In reality their positions are a consequence of the earth's orbit around the sun (which determines the ecliptic: the imaginary pathway of the sun through the sky) and the angle of this relative to the Milky Way.

The northern stargate over the upstretched "hand" of Orion is exactly at the cusp of Gemini and Taurus; the southern stargate is at the cusp of Sagittarius and Scorpio. From these two fixed points the zodiac can be divided into twelve equal portions roughly, though not exactly, correponding to the stellar constellations.

Now the spring equinox is not the only date that precesses backwards through the zodiac, so also does every other day of the year including the summer and winter solstices. The upshot of this is very interesting from the point of view of our own times. Today the sun stands exactly between Sagittarius and Scorpio at the winter solstice and over the hand of Orion at the time of the summer solstice. In other words the positions of the stargates correspond with the sun's positions at the solstices. This is the first time this has happened since c. 10,880 BC when the gates were in the opposite positions, with the Orion gate in the south and the Scorpio gate in the north.

This latter date, c. 10,880 BC corresponds closely with the ending of the last ice age and the legendary destruction of Atlantis [According to Plato, the Greek philosopher, the last phase of this destruction took place around 9500 BC]. Thus we can say with some assurity that last time the Sun was positioned at the stargates at the solstices corresponded with major changes in the earth's climate. Could this be why we are currently experiencing global warming on a scale not see before in historic times? Climate change, it would seem, is connected with this changing of astrological epoch.
http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/7.htm#giza2012

47. Adrian Gilbert – Signs in the Sky
Adrian Gilbert – Signs in the Sky. Adrian Gilbert’s New Book Signs in The Sky explores biblical prophecy and traces Christian origins to Egypt, to try and find an answer to the question of what exactly the prophesied “signs in the sky” preceding the end of the age, will be. Gilbert has been influenced by De Santillana & Von Dechend’s epic work on mythology, Hamlet’s Mill, which finds most mythology to be cosmologically or astronomically based.

We know about the alignment of the Winter solstice sun with Galactic Centre, between Sagittarius and Scorpio, which Jenkins has identified as the end-point of the Mayan Long Count in 2012. This is caused by the approx. 26,000-year “precession of the equinoxes”, except that the Mayans were measuring “precession of the solstices”, which is the same cycle, but measured from a different point – the precession of the winter solstice, as opposed to the vernal equinox. What Gilbert seems to have discovered is an Egyptian knowledge of the precession of the summer solstice, and the consequent encoding of this knowledge in the Bible. The vernal equinox, as we know, is precessing from Pisces to Aquarius, at the same time as the winter solstice precesses from Sagittarius to Scorpio, and the summer solstice precesses from Gemini to Taurus.

The ancient Greeks, who received much of their knowledge from Egypt, believed that souls reside in the Milky Way between incarnations, and that there are 2 “gates” on the Milky Way. These are the Silver Gate of Gemini, through which souls descend to earth, and the Golden Gate of Sagittarius, through which souls ascend. Other versions say the souls of men can ascend by either gate, but that the Silver Gate leads to reincarnation and the ancestors, and the Golden Gate leads beyond reincarnation. The Golden Gate is also that through which the Gods descend.

The Silver Gate is just above the “hand” of Orion, who the Egyptians associated with Osiris, and they depicted him holding a star in his hand. In the Orion Mystery, Bauval & Gilbert presumed this to be the star Aldebaran. Now, Gilbert has found that the Egyptian word for star, s’ba, also means “door”, so Osiris is holding a Star-Gate. In some depictions, Osiris is holding an ankh towards the gate, so this must be the key which unlocks the star-gate.

After studying bible prophecies, visiting Israel, and computing star and planet positions on his SKYGLOBE software, Gilbert has discerned that the astronomy of summer solstice 2000, June 21-22, and also on June 29, this is the beginning of the Apocalypse, when the Silver Star Gate opens. This is the “Omega position” of Orion, rather than 2380 AD, when Orion reaches its most Northerly point, as presumed in The Orion Mystery. It is the end of a 13,000 year cycle that Gilbert calls the Age of Adam, or the Age of Orion.

In August 2012, says Gilbert, Venus (symbolizing Isis & Mary as “Bride of Heaven”), will be “stationary in the hand of Orion”. Orion, as he has explained convincingly in the book, symbolizes Christ, and this is his mystic marriage (and there is a hint that we should be prepared with our “wedding garment”, which, to the Egyptians was a “stellar, Sahu body” that needed to be “crystallized”). This could also be the return of Quetzalcoatl, since he was connected with Venus, and thereby the sign preceding a “second coming”.
http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/7.htm#sphinxstar
48. Sphinx Stargate: While we’re on the subject… this is the name of astrophysicist Dr. Paul LaViolette’s website, in which he gives some information about the content of his books; Talk of The Galaxy is about ET communication, SETI, Pulsars, Astronomy, Supernovae & Crop circles.

However, most interesting to us at the moment, is Earth under Fire, - Humanity’s Survival of the Apocalypse. LaViolette combines recent scientific data with myth & legend to rediscover the reason that ancient civilizations tried to warn us of impending disaster. He lists 12 ground-breaking discoveries that he made, which were later vindicated by other researchers. These concern galactic core explosion cycles; Galactic super-waves of cosmic rays; cosmic ray levels fluctuation; tin isotopes; global warming; solar flare activity; geomagnetic reversals; radiocarbon date anomalies; gamma ray bursts; archaeo-astronomy ( knowledge of Galactic Centre in tribal myth).

The arrow of Sagittarius and the sting of Scorpio define the position of Galactic centre, with accompanying mythology. The foot of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Handler, is also right over Galactic Centre, as Raymond Mardyks points out. This happens to be at the Golden Gate which Gilbert brings attention to, while at the Silver Gate, lies the Galactic anticentre - the direction in which the Galactic Superwave departed, which is defined by Orion's club & the horns of Taurus, or the ankh in the hand of Osiris. The nearby Pleiades constellation is associated with catastrophe, not just in Mexico, but also ancient Persia and many other cultures, LaViolette tells us.

For reader interest, he also includes evidence from mythology, the tarot, astrology, prophecy and hypnotic progression! Here we can see where a mass extinction coincides with the start of a period lasting over a thousand years, of high solar flare activity due to cosmic dust from a Galactic superwave. This happened 12,700 years ago which is half a precessional period.

LaViolette confirms that at that time "...the intensity and declination of the earth's magnetic field underwent major variations in step with the eleven-year sunspot cycle. The amplitude of these cycles was hundreds of times larger than modern geomagnetic solar cycles, suggesting that solar flare activity at that time was also hundreds of times more intense, approaching levels normally observed in T Tauri stars."

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 31, 2008 12:43 pm

The Double Catastrophe
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... =660#p6447

Galactic/solar/cometary?

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by moses » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:26 am

With the discussion turning to the Galactic Centre(GC) perhaps it would
be a good time to consider precession again. As he wanders through the
dropped subjects.
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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by Plasmatic » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:58 am

Mo,you may want to consider reading The Cygnus Mystery along with considering Jenkins GC theory. To me its the only thing close to being a competetor against the Saturn theory.I had intended to dig deep and compare the two a while back but havent been able to justify the time yet. Incidently The author of the Cygnus Mystery claims its "The real God Star"..... ;) So far I consider the Saturn theory to be at least the projenitor of the type of mythology Jenkins and The C.M posit.
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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by moses » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:14 pm

The Cygnus Mystery is about cosmic rays from Cygnus and uses evidence in
ice cores to form the theory. To me the ice is only a few thousand years
old and formed after the Saturn System broke up. So I'm not into Cygnus.

The Galactic alignment could be significant, or else it just arises from
observations done after the Saturn System break-up. That people could
determine the elliptic nature of Earth's orbit thousands of years ago
is significant in itself. But it is the observations they did on natural
cycles and putting this plus the galactic centre observations into a
calendar that is pretty amazing. Also the inner shamanic observations
of these people deserve respect also. But I doubt that there is any
connection between the axis of the ellipse of the Earth's orbit and
the Galactic Centre and any superwave or spiritual effect. I won't be
in survival mode for 2012 unless humanity cracks up by then.

I find the possibility that the Solar System curves in it's travel through
space to be significant. This would mean that the Earth and whatever it
is curving around would describe a double helix. And the 26,000 year cycle
of this curvature might have been known by some Saturn System dwellers.
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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by Plasmatic » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:56 pm

I was referring to the myth aspects,definatly not the cosmic ray theory.Its been years so I should reread it when I get the chance.
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Oops!!!

Unread post by moses » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:07 am

Oops!!!
It's the pole of the Earth that points towards the GC, not the
axis of the elliptical orbit. But same argument. Sorry.
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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by nick c » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:32 am

hi Mo,
Oops!!!
It's the pole of the Earth that points towards the GC, not the
axis of the elliptical orbit. But same argument. Sorry.
It is my understanding that the pole of Earth (ie axis of rotation) points at Alpha Ursa Minoris (Polaris) in the constellation of Ursa Minor. The [url2=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center]galactic center[/url2], as viewed from Earth is in the constellation of Sagittarius, which is in the plane of the ecliptic. The ecliptic is the path of the Sun as seen from Earth. The hypothetical [*cough*] black hole at the center of the galaxy is located at a radio source named (Sgr A) Sagittarius A.
Unless I am misunderstanding and you were referring to something else?

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Re: 26,000 year orbit around the Pleiades

Unread post by moses » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:50 pm

Perhaps I should have said when the south pole points
nearest to the Galactic Centre. Again I'm sorry for
the misinformation.
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"The Galactic Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes. "
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