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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Julian Braggins » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:48 am

dfitz Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:48 pm
I read your 45 page book and to my simple mind it satisfies so many questions that have bugged me for most of my life that I feel you must be approaching a unified theory. Redshift, intrinsic as EU theory suggest and you give the explanation, the near instantaneous speed of gravity which it must be to support celestial mechanics, the nature of light, gravitational influence on a massless photon, and no loss of energy regardless of distance, the nature of forces of the gyroscope ( remember the stony silence that greeted a demonstration to the Royal Society of a 45lb gyroscope held at arms length with no apparent effort, and the failure to even note the demo in the minutes of the meeting ?) the list goes on.

Tesla worked practically with frequencies and resonances with so much success in ways that followers of Maxwell have never been able to improve on or even follow in many ways, if they follow your theories perhaps we may see giant strides in energy capture. The originators of this website have been tilting at the windmills of the Establishment for a long time now, and are beginning to see some success, and hopefully you will too, although antagonizing them (the Establishment) might present some delay!

Many thanks for giving me those answers, and may your work see some of the recognition that I think it deserves. :D

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by junglelord » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:46 am

I agree with his work, the one simple lie they teach is that in magnatism, the opposites attract...yet in reality the same poles attract stronger then opposite poles, ala Howard Johnson.
http://www.rbduncan.com/unvrasleep.htm

The electron is indeed a scalar.
Stuff I have been pushing for several years now.
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by webolife » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:11 am

Hey JL,
I just finished reading that entire work [ok, skimmed some parts, read most] by Daniel Fitzpatrick. Why did you say "Howard Johnson"? Amazing piece of writing, which brought about a great deal of "synaesthesia" for me wrt my study of Robert Archer Smith's work. His vocabulary was plain, his logic excellent, and despite a few places where he used some provocative language that I felt might be misleading, I think he is on the right track!
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by junglelord » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:01 pm

Howard Johnson wrote the book, the secret world of magnets.
His work is conclusive that the magnetic world is a rotating field, there are no lines, there are only spirals.
The north to north spiral will attract with the most power. The north spiral is larger then the south spiral, so the two fields are not equal. Like the Z Pinch, it is the attraction of like charges that causes the greatest release of energy in the universe. Opposite attraction is weaker and not the best way to get bang for you buck, so to speak.
The alignment of magnets of proper geometry allow north to north attraction via spin relationships. Very simple, very elegant. Thats why I mentioned Howard Johnson, his work totally backs up the writings of Daniel.
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:53 am

Strong Force geometry

If fusion of two protons follows the posturing shown in the simulation called “Special Collision between 2 protons” we can deduce the fusion geometry and associated pattern of distances between the six quarks. This allows us to calculate the nine forces between them in accordance with Coulombs Law.
Five of these vectors produce repulsion while four produce attraction. The sum of the nine forces is here suggested to be Strong Force.
By increasing the distance between the two protons we can also calculate when strong force goes to zero, or ceases to exist. Beyond this distance the nine force vectors combine into a repelling force, as expected between two bodies of similar charge. The calculations show that when the distance between the protons is increased on the order of one proton radius the strong force becomes zero and changes sign and name. At further distances it becomes the repelling force that we have come to expect between bodies of similar charge.
In other words:

Proton Radius, Strong Force and Binding Energy

Existing observations and measurements suggest that: “Strong force between two protons binds the protons with about 25 MeV of energy. The electromagnetic forces repel it with slightly less. The result is that about 1 MeV of energy would be required to split the two protons apart”. 1MeV = 1.602*10^-13 Joule.

The above proton simulations suggest a specific quark posture between the two protons:

Please see figure at:
http://www.dipole.se

Applying Coulombs law to the nine force vectors between the six quarks yields a calculation of the Strong Force shown below:

Please see table at:
http://www.dipole.se

The above lets us calculate the ES Strong Force as a function of the effective proton radius.
We can also iterate the calculation to find the separation distance between the protons where the ES Strong Force goes to zero.
We can also determine how the force varies with the separation distance and integrate the energy under the curve to determine the binding energy between the two protons.

The proton radius is generally assumed to be in the range of 10^-14 to 10^-15 meter.
However, if the proton radius is set to 3.55*10^-15 meter we get the following results:

ES Strong Force between two protons is 160 Newton.
The ES Strong Force has a reach of 0.785 times the radius of the proton or 2.785*10^-15 meter.
The ES Strong Force at half its reach is 35 Newton.
ES Binding Energy between two protons is 1MeV or 1.602*10^-13 Joule, and corresponds to earlier reported data.

Please note that the proton radius has been selected to give the above results but falls well within the earlier known range.

Summary:

The binding energy between two protons is known to be about 1.602*10^-13 Joule.
If the proton radius is 3.55*10^-15 meter, Charge Posturing and ES forces between the two protons produce a Strong Force of 160 Newton.
At a separation distance of 0.392 proton radii or 1.392*10^-15 meter the ES Strong Force has dropped to 35 Newton.
At a separation distance of 0.785 proton radii or 2.785*10^-15 meter the ES Strong Force has dropped to zero and continues as a repulsion force at larger distances.

If anybody has more accurate data about the binding energy between two protons or the radius of a proton I would very much like to hear from you.

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by StevenO » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:52 pm

According to Miles Mathis the force on the proton is only 1.64 x 10^-26 N:

Gravity at the quantum level

He also holds the proton is about 136x larger than was shown by Rutherford:

Why the atomic world is about 100x larger than we thought
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Ion01 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:13 pm

Look.... I haven't read through this whole tread yet but its obvious all of you have gravity completely wrong. Because gravity exists we get everything! Gravity creates matter from nothing! Its so obvious.....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20015425-71.html
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:48 am

For further quantification of strong force, strong force profile and strong force reach as a function of known binding energy between two protons please see:
http://www.dipole.se
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by remelic » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:27 am

I wrote about the OP theory in my book Magnetic Universe. The attraction is greater then the repel by a very small amount. Simple geometry can prove this. But it doesn't necessarily make it gravity. Strong force could be the addition of electromagnetic and gravity combined together.

Sorry I only read the first page of posts, if this was already mentioned.

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:37 am

Strong force in Deuterium

The atom nucleus of Deuterium consists of one proton and one neutron. As compared to the case of two protons, Deuterium forms readily, is relatively stable and possesses a high binding energy. See link to posturing simulation below:

A LINK to the 3D simulation is coming as soon as I receive the AVI capable add-on to the software.

The above simulation suggests a specific quark posture between the fused proton and neutron. The posturing is symmetrical and three dimensional. The same posturing is applied to the protons and quarks shown below in two views. Three dimensional design software was used to reconstruct the nucleus of Deuterium in accordance with the simulation results above to establish accurate 3D distances between the quarks. Please see below:

http://www.dipole.se

Using the effective quark radius calculated earlier in the case of strong force between two protons we can now test the ES Strong Force hypothesis by calculating the theoretical binding force in Deuterium and compare it to the known binding force:

http://www.dipole.se

Note that the ES strong force or binding force in Deuterium never goes to zero why the integration of the binding energy theoretically can go on for ever. In this case the energy integration is stopped at a distance between proton and neutron where the ES strong force falls below 1/1000 of the contact strong force.

Note that the theoretically calculated ES Strong Force produces a binding energy which is identical to known binding energy. This is a remarkable result and I interpret it as strong support for the fact that what we call strong force is caused by the above described and quantified composite of electro static forces between electrically charged nuclei constituents such as quarks.

Coming soon: More analysis of Charge Posturing and Dipole Formation in our Electric Universe.

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:05 am

3D simulation of charge posturing between one proton and one neutron forming one Deuterium nucleus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54pitQvEypA

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by jjohnson » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:23 am

I really like your simulations and the binding energy calculations that result. The 3D version is VERY interesting, as the quarks come together and then rotate to better "fit" a little more closely together.

Finding that your simulated interactions behave dynamically like, and result in similar binding energies to those found by experimental measurements could be mileposts on the road to a really successful model. Since we are unable to actually observe the hypothetical quarks with their "tension spring" links, due to scale resolution, we may not know for a long time what a quark actually "is". Nonetheless, I'm happy with a "black box" explanation of that part for now, if it comes up with good models that accurately describe "real" observations and interactions.

Good work, m'man!

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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:06 am

Thanks Jim.

Here is another new 3D simulation showing Charge Posturing and ES Gravity between two neutrons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL1Qs-jO6iE
Notice the 3D folding at the very end.

http://www.dipole.se/
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Aveo9 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:08 am

"Remarkable result" is a massive understatement! This is absolutely amazing!

Just one thing that has me puzzled - what about "colour" charge? Would you say that colour charge is simply the mainstream trying to explain what you're attributing to electrostatic forces? I was on wikipedia trying to clarify how the mainstream says the strong force works, and it just ended up getting confusing :P

One thing that did strike me was a line in the Color Confinement article: "When two quarks become separated, as happens in particle accelerator collisions, at some point it is more energetically favorable for a new quark–antiquark pair to spontaneously appear out of the vacuum ..."

Apparently they're resorting to spontaneous creation of matter out of nothing.
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Re: Gravity & Strong Force

Post by Bengt Nyman » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:40 am

Hi Aveo9,

I am speculating that colour charge may be an attempt to explain how two quarks of the same charge manage to attract each other at very close distances. To me it appears as if a quark has the ability to produce a point of opposite charge on its surface. At a distance you only see the prevailing charge but close up a quark appears to be able to produce a patch of opposite charge enabling an ES coupling to another similarly charged quark.
I am speculating that it might be a miniature version of the charge posturing and ES attraction that is described above between whole quarks in neutrons and protons.

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