Hi Dries,
I wonder what your view is upon the following?
http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?ti ... s_of_Hamer
http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?ti ... w_Medicine
http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?ti ... w_Medicine
Davey
German New Medicine
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Re: German New Medicine
Hi Dries,
I’m 95% to 98% sure that my theory of ‘Hully-Gully New Medicine’ (medical term!) is guaranteed to cure all diseases. How do I know this? Well apart from the fact that I’m 95% to 98% right about everything, I’ve dressed up my theory with lots of references to holistic new age medicine and generously mixed this to excess with new-fangled scientific sounding terms. And I have a machine that goes ‘bing’, and is assured to blast away all your unresolved psychic conflict based traumas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc
Finding that hard to swallow?
Well that’s because you obviously have an unresolved ‘psychic conflict’ and you don’t want to accept that I’m right!
Sorry for this, but I'm afraid I need some other evidence than Dr. Hamer's subjective opinions.
Could you please post some objective and credible evidence for the good Doctors outlansish claims other than those originating from Dr. Hamer himself and his supporters?
I'm willing to reconsider, but so far I don't see any evidence.
Davey
http://www.guideforselfhealing.com/2006 ... t/#more-44Although the biological laws put forth by German New Medicine are firm laws of nature, each individual expresses a disease process in their own unique way, and the New Medicine practitioner seeks to understand each unique process in order to best support it.
Equipped with a brain CT scan, and an understanding of the nature of the patient’s DHS and all its implications, the New Medicine practitioners are having extraordinary diagnostic and therapeutic success with all forms of disease. Diagnosis is possible long before cancerous growth is detectable by conventional methods, and the CT scan also helps to monitor the progression of the disease “special program.”
With German New Medicine, 95% of patients who are not treated (no chemo, etc.), survive. In the animal kingdom, we would see 80-90% spontaneous healings if we let nature take its course. New Medicine treatment is multifaceted, and uses many simple natural healing methods. The main emphasis is psychotherapeutic approaches to help the person resolve the underlying conflict.
We use language to mediate experience, and we create internal representations of our reality. For example, we might say, “That’s hard to swallow” as a metaphor when we don’t want to accept something.
I’m 95% to 98% sure that my theory of ‘Hully-Gully New Medicine’ (medical term!) is guaranteed to cure all diseases. How do I know this? Well apart from the fact that I’m 95% to 98% right about everything, I’ve dressed up my theory with lots of references to holistic new age medicine and generously mixed this to excess with new-fangled scientific sounding terms. And I have a machine that goes ‘bing’, and is assured to blast away all your unresolved psychic conflict based traumas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc
Finding that hard to swallow?
Well that’s because you obviously have an unresolved ‘psychic conflict’ and you don’t want to accept that I’m right!
Sorry for this, but I'm afraid I need some other evidence than Dr. Hamer's subjective opinions.
Could you please post some objective and credible evidence for the good Doctors outlansish claims other than those originating from Dr. Hamer himself and his supporters?
I'm willing to reconsider, but so far I don't see any evidence.
Davey
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Re: German New Medicine
Thanks for the links Davey.
You asked my view, well here it is:
1)These interviews are new information for me. Since my understanding of German language is limited, I rely on the transcripts. This is obviously a different picture then we get from Dr. Hamer and his supporters, especially about the number of persons getting better. So who is telling the truth here? Do you have a particular reason to trust the information on this website? There is probably agreement on the lack of painkillers. According to Dr. Hamer these disrupt the healing process and will probably be used only in some cases. (How do they call it in sports: 'no pain no gain'?).
2)I have not read all the cases, these are all very tragic. I can understand why many relatives would be angry at Hamer. But I have some questions: in many cases the patients were also treated conventionally so how is decided what treatment killed them? There are people on the list who probably never saw a trained GNM therapist but only talked to one on the phone or just read Hamers work. But to make an analogy let's suppose all the people on the list were real patients treated by Hamer personally. Would a regular oncologist who tried a new kind of chemotherapy be treated as a murderer by the media if on average more then 5 of his patients died each year (148/22 years=5,5)? I don't know what the actual numbers are but you could estimate the number for an average oncologist by dividing the amount of cancer deaths in a country by the number of oncologists.
3)I haven't had time to read it all.
You asked my view, well here it is:
1)These interviews are new information for me. Since my understanding of German language is limited, I rely on the transcripts. This is obviously a different picture then we get from Dr. Hamer and his supporters, especially about the number of persons getting better. So who is telling the truth here? Do you have a particular reason to trust the information on this website? There is probably agreement on the lack of painkillers. According to Dr. Hamer these disrupt the healing process and will probably be used only in some cases. (How do they call it in sports: 'no pain no gain'?).
2)I have not read all the cases, these are all very tragic. I can understand why many relatives would be angry at Hamer. But I have some questions: in many cases the patients were also treated conventionally so how is decided what treatment killed them? There are people on the list who probably never saw a trained GNM therapist but only talked to one on the phone or just read Hamers work. But to make an analogy let's suppose all the people on the list were real patients treated by Hamer personally. Would a regular oncologist who tried a new kind of chemotherapy be treated as a murderer by the media if on average more then 5 of his patients died each year (148/22 years=5,5)? I don't know what the actual numbers are but you could estimate the number for an average oncologist by dividing the amount of cancer deaths in a country by the number of oncologists.
3)I haven't had time to read it all.
I think that is a very good attitude in matters of this importance. It's good that you are not being convinced by reading the links and the messages that I post. In fact I am pretty sure I don't know of any evidence that I could post that would be credible to you. (What is your opinion on the documents this page for example? http://www.learninggnm.com/documents/verifiations.html.) The only thing I can do is explain the theory so you can see for yourself if this makes sense in your daily experience, or not. Remember, it doesn't have to involve cancer, it could just be the flue, a cold, allergies..Sorry for this, but I'm afraid I need some other evidence than Dr. Hamer's subjective opinions.
Could you please post some objective and credible evidence for the good Doctors outlansish claims other than those originating from Dr. Hamer himself and his supporters?
I'm willing to reconsider, but so far I don't see any evidence.
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Re: German New Medicine
I am closing this thread. The OP's initial post asked for comments, which have been posted. Also, the specificity of the topic is considerably outside the parameters of this particular board's general description.
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