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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Fri May 09, 2008 3:04 pm

What would I know if it had not been pointed out to me by You and Talbott and Thornhill and Thomson?
I would know very little. In fact I had a ton of information and knew almost nothing.
I am merely backing you guys up.
:D

You have all turned my information, into knowledge. For that I am forever grateful. I even gave Dave Talbott a PM to express my sincere gratitude for all the knowledge they have allowed me to create from my bank of information. Without the unifying principles of Comparative Mythology married to Plasma physics (structure and function), with out your Meyl links and superconductor thread...I would be in the dark....I think a black hole comes to mind
;)

StevenO and Dave Smith, my brothers in the industry, I am forever aware of your deep insights and experience in the world of electricity/electronics. I also therefore thankyou as you have both been a source of deep knowledge and insight into a world I never really understood until this week.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Sat May 10, 2008 5:35 am

Basic point. I finally understand electonics and APM pulled me out of the hole along with Meyl.

Dimensions have structure (geometric reality), every one understand 3-D geometry.
No one doubts the existance of 3-D space or the 3-D Dimensions.
We hold these facts as truths that are self evident.
Certainly a Zome cube is a material representation of the cubic geometry of the 3-D geometry of the first three dimensions.

Material structural geometry the same as nonmaterial structural geometry, both are real. Both are identical.

The first three dimensions obey the rule of Quadrature for their geometric shape.
Length (linear, phi), Area (distributed, pi), Volume (space). All at right angles to each other.

I therefore can take the first three dimensions and form a law for all higher dimensions, Structure and Function cannot be seperated, and will use that unifying principle to further examine higher dimensional structures and functions.

What my revelation is and what I am trying to help people bridge the gap is that electronics is a example of how material structure and nonmaterial structure marry to produce the same function.

Electonics uses this non material structural geometric reality to control the same function from the same structural geometry via specific material.

Dimensions use structure to create function. The same structure in the non material that makes the non material function will work the same in the material. Electronics is like a solid dimensional construct. That is why it is able to control the functions of the universe.

I now hold this truth to be self evident.

I never understood electronics. I now do, and I now know why I did not before.

I had no structure to marry to the function. I had no truths that were self evident.

The question of charge as a dimension is a valid question, and a valid possibility, due to the fact that charge, the vortex, is a longitudinal structure, that was the means to make the Magnifying Transmitter function as a longitudinal generator with a vortex spiral inductor. Non material structure into material structure to control function.

Hint, you will never make a longitudinal device without a spiral. Both Tesla and Meyl will tell you this.
Dave Thomson, Konstantine Meyl, Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger, all tell us why in varying degrees of truth and insight, why this is so.

The physical structure that is the same as the nonmaterial structure can allow us to manipulate dimensonal functions.
This the only way to do this. This is why all longitudinal transmitters or any longitudnal device will always need a spiral.
This is because the non material dimensional structure of charge is a vortex.


Double layers always create vortex/charge. A law nature revealed to me last month. This is true at every level in all systems, be it plasma, air, water, and electronic components.
A capacitor is a double layer. It stores charge. The vortex.
Linear spiraled coils of copper wire are woven round and round because EM fields are rotating.
Semiconductors are another form of double layers. They have no volume between the double layer.
They exhibit quantuam behavior in the material world. These simple yet self evident solutions are a unify principle around non material structural dimensions and material structural constructs. Both identical structures create the same function, from both non material and material.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Sat May 10, 2008 5:37 am

WOW, this is the single biggest stroke of genius I have had since saying the Impulse Magnifying Transmitter was a Theta Pinch...

I searced for twenty years for this answer....
:?

Not a soul on earth has basicly stated what I just said....I am pretty sure of that.
I have read many electronic books after college trying to get a better handle on why electroncis control functions beyond the material used concept....I finally solved the structure and function paradigm of electronics. APM dug me out of the hole of the classical mess, the guiding concept of Ida Rolf, you cannot seperate structure from function carried me through once again into honest synesthesia experience.

I never had any synesthesia about electronics or modern cosmology or modern physics till the EU fostered a home for me to finally rise from the classical mess.

Thanks again to all involved, you know who you are.
;)

basic point to be learned, you cannot have a function without a structure.
:D

The archetype structure is the vortex. It is the geometry of the non material dimensons of charge.

Notice in this press release that the initial form to be structurally exhibited is the vortex.
Physicists Create Universe Smaller Than a Marble
At Lancaster University, they’re unraveling the secrets of how to build a universe. In fact, they have already formed one, or something very much like it. This scientific breakthrough lies in the bottom of a chamber no larger than your pinky finger, filled with helium and cooled to 0.0003 degrees Fahrenheit above absolute zero.

By placing helium in a state which most closely resembles the form it held at the beginning of the universe, scientists have created an opportunity for the gas to go through several low-energy evolutions. These defects in space-time, are represented by tiny whirlpools in the helium, which are created by the rapid expansion, and equally rapid slowing of the expansion; something that it’s believed our own universe did at the big bang and in the moments thereafter.

How, then, did our universe go from whirlpools that could fit in a thimble to galaxies larger than our imaginations can properly comprehend?

http://www.theweirdpost.com/wordpress/2 ... -a-marble/
I will tell you how, because that is the implicit geometry of the charge dimension.That is non material geometry becoming evident in material. One must ask what is real....

Is the material that we see more real then the dimensions that make it? I think the first level of reality is the dimensional level. This level of reality in the non material is the template from which all functions derive based on its geometric structure. To manipulate the non material functions with material constructs one must use the same geometric shape.

Hint. Tesla made a longidutinal transmitter called the Impulse Magnifying Transmitter...Meyl made a soild state one. Both have a spiral coil. You cannot transmitt or receive longitudinal current without a spiral longitudinal form.

You will never see a longitudinal transmitter that does not have a spiral coil....This is because the geometry of the non material dimension of charge is the vortex, that is the scalar longitudinal structure....To manipulate the functions of these forms, we need to recreate their structure in the material...that is what electronics is all about.
:D

Structure and Function cannot be seperated. You never have a function without a structure, both in the material and the non material reality. The non material structure in material form will control the same function.
:D
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Sat May 10, 2008 5:39 am

My very kind reply from Dave Thomson.
Hi Dean,

I'm delighted to see you are catching on. I agree with everything you said.

You are not far off from seeing that non-material space, and the material that fills it both share the exact same geometry. The non-material Aether unit acts as a non-material "container" for the ligamen circulatus. The ligamen circulatus gets its geometry from the Aether.

I fully agree with your views on spirals. I didn't do as much with spirals as I would like to have done. The Aether unit shows two equal loxodromes, simply because the areas are equal in both halves. However, the only requirement is that the areas remain equal. The small and large diameters of the loxodromes constantly change due to the stretching of the Aether units, but their areas always equal one Compton wavelength squared.

This allows the spiral to occur spatially. Also, the amount of primary angular momentum stored in the electron spin position is 1/1860 of the primary angular momentum stored in the proton position. There has to be a rational reason for this. There is only one dimension of mass, yet it behaves more massive in the proton spin position than it does in the electron spin position. If you look on page 178 you'll see the onta gap number. It is an equation, based upon Phi, that seems to provide a clue about the different manifestations of mass. Phi is the logarithmic spiral constant. So it may be that mass is somehow inherently spiraled, even though it has no inherent length. I have a difficult time trying to visualize this and represent it on paper.

Dave
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Sat May 10, 2008 4:13 pm

I have made two amazing relationship discovery from APM in two days. Yesteday I finally figured out the structural relationship of electronic components to the non material dimensional constructs that create matter and therefore allow both to control the same function via the same structure. I had another bolt today!

Tensegrity Structures are the geometry of structure of the universe down to the dimensional structures of APM

I can explain why. I have just made a relationship that unifyes APM to Tensegrity, how cool is that?
Just watch! A little history into my own experinence with tensegrity as a medical professional. A little idea of how this unify concept of structural engineering is the general construct at all levels of reality. This is too huge to ingnore any more. Dr Inber has fleshed out much of the constructs. I also had pointed out a while ago that the universe was a tensegrity structure with continuous charge/tension and discontinuous compression/stars, planets any solid! The cosmic web looks like a tensegrity structure to those of us who are familiar with them.

Buckminster Fuller is the inventor of the structural engineering concept and term Tensegrity.

I spent fifteen years working with this structural geometry as a soft tissue therapist which began with Rolfing/Structural Integration therapy, then training, then teaching, and follows the creed that Structure and Function Cannot be Seperated (an Osteopathic principle).

Rolfing is deep tissue manipulation of the fascial system in all its different systems and subsystems. It is meant to organize and integrate the fascial tissue in the field of gravity.

Fascia is goverened by tensegrity, a geometry of structural engineering of the universe from I believe now from reading APM from the non material dimensional structures up to material molecular structures through to living organisms, from virus to cell to human body. The connective fascial is the continuous tension web with bones being the discontinuous compression members. This is how we stand up in the field of gravity.

I shared with Dave Talbott how after 15 years I had synthesized my own therapy. Call it the Jeet Kune Do of Soft Tissue Therapy.

The unifying principle throughout all successful post graduate training systems are Tensional Models in actual fact. They merely are directed at only a specific system most of the time and not wholistic as Rolfing is. My own Bruce Lee gift to the classical mess of orthopedic therapy is Tensional/Tensegrity Release Structual Alignment Systems Therapy. A synthesis of over 10 post graduate forms of therapy. I treat all major systems, all sub systems, all fascial planes, and integrate the human form with the field of gravity via Tensegrity Balance.

Tensegrity: Continous Tension Members with Discontinuous Compression Members

Everyone knows that charge is tension. Charge is distributed and therefore continuous. Especially because it is both dimensional and the universe is electric from end to end.

Angular Momentum that creates a onn is discontinous and causes compression.

that is Tensegrity.

OMG....did you see that!

Tensegrity is the organizing principle of strucutral engineering at all levels, which of course it must be.....which leads us back to Ida Rolf, Structure and Function Cannot be seperated.!

Dean Ward.


Just think about it. Donald E Inber on Tensegrity the Structure of life

some links to follow

http://vv.arts.ucla.edu/Talks/Barcelona/Arch_Life.htm

My teachers in soft tissue therapy, Tensegrity and Matrix Repatterning are as follows.

Ida Rolf, Dr. Michael Shea, Tom Myers, Buckminster Fuller, Dr George Roth, Dr Pierre Barral, Barry Jennings

Dr Roth works with Donald Inber.
Ida Rolf, Dr Shea, Tom Myers all worked together with Buckminster Fuller.
Barry Jennings was trained by Dr Shea. He was trained by Ida Rolf and Buckminster Fuller
I was trained personally by Barry Jennings and Dr Roth. I am only a third generation student of Structural Integration chain of command from Ida Rolf and Buckminster Fuller
The rest by book and courses and video tape with Tom Myers, Dr Shea, Dr Barral, Aaron Mattes, Dr Leon Chaitow, Dr Upledger, Dr Paul Chauffour, Erik Dalton, and the Canadian College of Massage and Hydrotherapy graduate. Registered health care professional in Ontario.

Dean Ward
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Sat May 10, 2008 4:44 pm

Spin/angular momentum is the essential non continuous compression of a tensegrity structure.
That is what angular momentum does to charge to create a particle/onn of a e- p+ or n. it causes compression.
Charge is distributed and is the essential continuous tension.
These are the two fundamental building blocks of a tensegrity structure.
It stands to reason then that tensegrity is the structural engineering of the universe at all levels of reality!


Tensegrity is the structural engineering of all levels of reality from dimensional to universal. Everyone in nano technology understands a bucky ball named in honour of Buckminster Fuller. It is from the level of non material dimensional structures and overlays that we have this tensegrity principle occur at every level of reality.

It takes both tension and compression. Charge/tension and angular momentum/compression

The galactic web is a tensegrity structure.
The universe is electric from end to end, that is continuous tension.
Star are discontinuous compression members as is any material state of matter due to the relationship and effects of angular momentum.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by bboyer » Sat May 10, 2008 7:38 pm

A New Foundation for Physics wrote:Some of the differences between the APM and Standard Model (SM) of particle physics are:
A New Foundation for Physics wrote: Aether Physics Model
  1. Length, Frequency, Mass and Charge are
    strictly dimensions
  2. Length, Frequency, Mass and Charge are
    entirely non-material and yet measurable.
  3. All units construct from distributed charge
    dimensions.
  4. All units construct from quantum
    measurements, particularly the values related
    to the electron.
  5. The quantum Aether unit quantifies as the
    quantum of space-time (four dimensions) and
    space-resonance (five dimensions). Aether
    dimensionally integrates with matter.
  6. The Aether Physics Model quantifies the
    geometry of charge, Aether, and subatomic
    particles.
  7. Conductance of the Aether is a new
    fundamental constant, derived from Coulomb’constant, the speed of light, permeability, and
    permittivity.
  8. Elementary charge squared is electrostatic
    charge and strong charge quantifies as the
    angular momentum of the subatomic particle
    times the conductance of the Aether.
  9. The electron quantifies as the quantum of
    action, or Planck’s constant. The electron,
    proton, and neutron do not just have angular
    momentum; their structure is angular
    momentum.

A New Foundation for Physics wrote: Standard Model
  1. Mass is considered to be a unit, and “charge” is
    often confused to be synonymous with
    “electron.”
  2. Mass is sometimes considered to be matter and
    is hypothesized to be, or be composed of, a
    Higgs Boson particle. The dimension of mass
    is also thought to be equivalent to the unit of
    energy. Charge is thought of as a point
    particle.
  3. Units construct from single charge dimensions
    in all units except inductance, permeability,
    capacitance, permittivity, and conductance.
    This leads to the incorrect relationship between
    certain units.
  4. Units construct from measurements having no
    relationship to the quantum realm, such as
    meter, kilogram, gram, second, and coulomb.
    SI system of units employs the unit of current
    in place of charge dimension.
  5. Space-time is an artificial, mathematical
    coordinate system. Space-time has no inherent
    connection to matter.
  6. Charge and quantum matter quantify as
    dimensionless points, and the Aether is
    ignored.
  7. There is no Aether and the conductance of free
    space is not recognized.
  8. The only type of charge recognized is the
    elementary charge and it expresses in single
    dimension charge. This creates problems in
    the cgs system of units, where charge appears
    naturally as distributed.
  9. Subatomic particles have mass, charge, angular
    momentum, energy, and other characteristics,
    but have no particular structure.
A New Foundation for Physics wrote: (emphasis added)

The Aether Physics Model (APM) is mathematical and based on the same data as the SM. The main difference between the two models is the ontology of how we explain the data. Nevertheless, this is exactly what modern physics needs, a fresh perspective, and a new way of seeing the familiar data.
http://www.intellectuallyhonestscience. ... 082805.pdf
A New Foundation for Physics wrote:
David W. Thomson and Jim D. Bourassa, the Quantum AetherDynamics Institute

Abstract
We have discovered a new foundation for physics, which quantifies the Aether, demonstrates its
existence, and provides a valid paradigm accommodating the observable phenomena of the
Universe. Some aspects of the theory derive from the Standard Model, but much is unique. The
Standard Model of physics has certain fundamental errors in the understanding of mass and
charge.

A key discovery from this new foundation is a mathematically correct Unified Force Theory.
Other fundamental discoveries follow, including the origin of the fine structure constant and
subatomic particle g-factors, a slight correction of neutron magnetic moment, a geometrical
structure for charge, the quantification of electromagnetic charge as separate from electrostatic
charge, a more precise meaning of spin, the quantification of space-resonance in five dimensions,
and a new system of quantum units.

The Aether quantifies as a fabric of quantum rotating magnetic fields with electromagnetic,
electrostatic, and gravitational dipole structures. Subatomic particles quantify as angular
momentum encapsulated in a quantum, rotating magnetic field. All quantum, atomic, and
molecular processes can be precisely modeled, leading to discrete physics with new
understandings and insights.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Tue May 13, 2008 4:08 pm

The waving electron?
Yeah APM says that exactly. Flexible toroidal entity.
Quote from APM paper on the Electron Binding Energy
4. Toroidal Structure of the Electron
While researching the evidence for electron radii, we came upon the research of David McCutcheon and
his Ultrawave Theory, which gave an interesting view of the classical and Bohr electron radii:
2
2πre⋅2πα0=λC (4.1)
It is likely others have noticed this relationship, but such work was not located. The above relationship
reveals that a toroid with a minor radius equal to the classical electron radius and major radius equal to
the Bohr radius has the surface area equal to the Compton wavelength squared.
Further, Planck’s constant easily demonstrates the quantum of action (for the electron) is equal to the
mass of the electron times the Compton wavelength squared times the quantum frequency.
2
e C q h=m ⋅λ ⋅F (4.2)

We used the above quantum analyses in developing the Aether Physics Model. It turns out the electron
models as a toroid, which can have variable radii as long as the quantum surface area remains the same.
Therefore, the electron is not a fixed-point particle, but is a flexible toroidal entity. The flexibility is
possible due to the Aether, which gives the electron its structure. As detailed in Secrets of the Aetherx,
the Aether is a quantum unit of rotating magnetic field. Ontologically, the Aether unit pre-exists matter
and contributes to the material structure of the angular momentum encapsulated by it.


http://www.16pi2.com/files/Electron_bin ... uation.pdf
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Tue May 13, 2008 4:41 pm

A quote of the Electron Binding Energy paper from APM. Please see the link for full paper and equations.
In our book, Secrets of the Aether, we have a section about Aether Structuresxii. The steps involved in
building Aether structures involve quantifying the spin differences of matter and Aether. Although the
quantum Aether unit has 2-spin, subatomic particles only inhabit one fourth of the Aether, or half spin.
The “spin” of the subatomic particles is a direct result of the two dynamic frequency dimensions of the
Aether. One of the dynamic frequency dimensions manifests as forward/backward time, the other
manifests as right/left spin direction. There is actually a third “static” frequency, which results in
positive/negative electrostatic charge.

All matter in our observed Universe exists in only the forward time direction. This observed matter
further divides into matter and antimatter, depending on which half of the spin direction cycle it exists.
Matter also divides into positive and negative charge depending on which half of the static charge cycle
it exists.

The primary angular momentum composing subatomic particles can only spin in either the forward or
backward time direction, and either the right or left spin direction, and exist in either the positive or the
negative of the static charge dipole. Since static charge is not part of the dynamic two-spin structure of
the Aether, and angular momentum only exists in half the forward/backward time frequency and half the
right/left spin direction, matter appears to have half-spin.

Therefore, when half spin subatomic particles bind they are missing the backward time direction, yet the
Aether sees this backward time direction. The result is that subatomic particles do not pair exactly
opposite or adjacent to each other, as square building blocks seem to do at the macro level of existence.
Instead, the subatomic particles (being curved toroidal structures to begin with), build up in a twisted
pattern.

This twisted construction affects the minor and major radii of the toroidal electrons. As electrons bind
to each other and fill the Aether spin positions around an atomic nucleus, the effect is additive.
In the case of the electrons, the minor radius increases with the number of electrons (which is equal to
the number of protons in a neutral atom). Designating the number of protons as Z, the minor radius
decreases in steps of half spin.

The major radius increases in steps of half spin:

The above stepping patterns are the phi and Phi numbers. In the case of the first binding, where there
are two electrons, we get:

phi
.618...

Phi
1.618...

The above numbers are the Golden Ratio (Phi) and its reciprocal (phi).
With the increase in the number of protons in the atoms, there is an increase in the number of electrons.
The total electron radii deform accordingly. As the minor radius shrinks and the major radius grows,
there is a deformation as the Aether units stretch and thus the distance between them shrinks. The
distance empirically induces in terms of the quantum length as (the nth root is a capital Z squared):

There is no electron strong force binding in the neutral hydrogen atom because there is only one
electron, but when we look at helium and all other neutral atoms, the electron binding energy equation
for the 1s “orbital” electron becomes:
24.72eV

The empirically measured 1s “orbital” electron binding energy for helium is 24.6eV.

http://www.16pi2.com/files/Electron_bin ... uation.pdf
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Wed May 14, 2008 8:26 am

My apolgies for any misinformation I have spread.
:oops:

My quantum 1/2 spin lesson from Dave Thomson of APM
My previous questions, or statements in plain text, Dave's replies in bold
Hi Dean,
Are you reading APM?

Yes I am doing that. I got excited again.
I really have to claim brain injury on that one.....pretty bad math.
I know 2 spin is not 360...


No, you still missed it. 2 spin is 1440 degrees. 1 spin is 720 degrees, and 1/2 spin is 360 degrees. In the quantum realm, there is a hidden dimension of frequency, which we cannot see. When an electron spins in our 4-D world 360 degrees, it has only spun 1/2 of a full quantum spin. This is not something I came up with, it is a part of mainstream physics.

I am going to bite the bit and slow down. I promise.
I can only say you have lit a fire in me.

That is good.
I know Dave never came up with quantum 1/2 spin, I just never understood it, I am a simple man.
Dave is a great teacher.
:D

I am slowly getting discombobulated from my classical mess. I love when the lights come on...hey there is somebody home.
:lol:

Until I actually finish this journey of APM, I will only cut and paste!
;)

Since no one else pointed out my mistakes, I wonder who really understands the classical mess?
Like I said, I never really got electronics or cosmology, I just liked it.
Feynman and Mead say 99.9% of the industry is people who have information, but no knowledge, I agree with them.
So does Dave Smith and StevenO. We don't even understand electricity.

The EU has a journey still ahead of it. We are far from a proper understanding of this basics. Plasma physics is the source of inspiration along with comparative methodology.

I think that Collective Electrodynamics and APM are the paths on that road. If you have read neither, you owe yourself the time to do so.

I personally endorse both as the only two books, along with the EU and Tesla's work and Konstine Meyl's Scalar Technology and the Holographic Universe that have done me well.

I would also include long with those seminal works, the works of Buckminster Fuller on Tensegrity, and Zome on atomic configurations and dimensions and embedded and implicit forms, and of course Ida Rolf and Sacred Geometry.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by webolife » Wed May 14, 2008 3:54 pm

Dave T. said that mass has no inherent length.... did I understand this correctly?

I would like to suggest another possibility, that I will describe more if/when I can find the time, that mass is a description of a field with an associated areal component. I have a well written document in hand (by my former mentor, Robert Archer Smith) demonstrating the relative masses of the outer planets based on what he refers to as AME (areal mass equivalence), by which planet mass is obtained in direct relation to the semimajor axis of the planet's orbit. It is remarkable in that the geometry used is inherent also in the atomic masses of the elements.
In short, while mass may be related to "material", it is also associated with a field described by area... an AME. This direct association makes it possible to simply describe mass by the field geometry, without worry over what is matter and what isn't. Of course, mass is a result of [and/or results in] field "compression" versus energy being a result of [and/or results in] field kinetics. That the geometry is scaleless is particularly elegant. :)

It may take weeks for me to have enough time to present a fair elaboration on the planetary masses connection... sorry ;)
For now let me say that an areal computation related to semimajor axis [radius] not unlike Kepler's 2nd law of planetary motion, yields masses for the gas giant planets that are remarkably close to currently held values.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Wed May 14, 2008 4:41 pm

I believe it is more proper to say that Mass is a quantum unit and is the mass of the electron for most equations in APM.
The major difference between APM and the Standard Model is the Systems used to analyze the data.

In APM data collects in dimensional and geometric form, processes in dimensional and geometric form which materalize equations in dimensional and geometric form.

APM has new definitions for "unit", "measurement", "dimension", "constant". In APM quantum units and quantum measurements also serve as quantum constants. APM system of measurement is devised so that all measurements are based on quantum length, quantum frequency, quantum mass, quantum charge, and the spherical constant.
SOTA page 22, chapter 1
APM produces a set of measurements, devised so that all measurements base on the quantum length, quantum frequency, quantum masses, and quantum charges, and spherical constant.

Because nearly all human scale energy interactions at the subatomic level take place via, the electron, the quantum mass is usually the mass of the electron and is equal to 9.1093826 10 (-31) kg. It can also be the mass of the proton, the neutron, or the aether.

When transactions occur with the proton neutron or aether the mass values for these respective units are used.
As reference here are the Quantum Length, Quantum Frequency, Quantum Charges, Angular Momentum
SOTA page 22, chapter 1
Quantum Length, notated as lambda sub(c), is the Compton wavelength = 2.426310238 x 10(-12) m(19)
Quantum Frequency, notated as Fq, is speed light divided by Quantum Length = 1.23558998 x 10(20) Hz
Quantum Charge are two in number, electrostatic, electromagnetic.
Electrostatic Charge, notated as e(2) = 2.566969633 x 10 (-38) Coul(2)
EM Charge, notated as e emax(2) = Angular Momentum x conductance of the aether
Angular Momentum, notated as h = planck constant
ps, I checked all that, but did all that from memory and understanding....whooohooo!
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Thu May 15, 2008 8:24 am

webolife wrote:Dave T. said that mass has no inherent length.... did I understand this correctly?
That is correct, but it might be spiraled. This from my reply to Dave Thomson after I recognized the structural basis of electronics. Its here at my Blog Space from Plasma resources dot net courtesy of Dave Smith.
http://plasmaresources.com/structureand ... ress/?p=23
Hi Dean,

I’m delighted to see you are catching on. I agree with everything you said.

You are not far off from seeing that non-material space, and the material that fills it both share the exact same geometry. The non-material Aether unit acts as a non-material “container” for the ligamen circulatus. The ligamen circulatus gets its geometry from the Aether.

I fully agree with your views on spirals. I didn’t do as much with spirals as I would like to have done. The Aether unit shows two equal loxodromes, simply because the areas are equal in both halves. However, the only requirement is that the areas remain equal. The small and large diameters of the loxodromes constantly change due to the stretching of the Aether units, but their areas always equal one Compton wavelength squared.

This allows the spiral to occur spatially. Also, the amount of primary angular momentum stored in the electron spin position is 1/1860 of the primary angular momentum stored in the proton position. There has to be a rational reason for this. There is only one dimension of mass, yet it behaves more massive in the proton spin position than it does in the electron spin position. If you look on page 178 you’ll see the onta gap number. It is an equation, based upon Phi, that seems to provide a clue about the different manifestations of mass. Phi is the logarithmic spiral constant. So it may be that mass is somehow inherently spiraled, even though it has no inherent length. I have a difficult time trying to visualize this and represent it on paper.

Dave Thomson, APM
I would think that would be correct. Thats my own personal belief after six months of synesthesia.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by junglelord » Thu May 15, 2008 5:11 pm

Well I just got the quantum "spin" on all this two days ago.
It should be noted that QM states this is the way things are webolife. There is more to reality then what we see.

If I understand it correctly reality is a 2 spin function, We see only 1/4 when we view matter, 1/2 when we view photons, if I finally understand this quantum spin thingy. Because e-, p+ 1/2 spin is 360 and photon 1 spin is 720 of a 2 spin total reality of 1440 in the quantum world.
2 spin is 1440 degrees. 1 spin is 720 degrees, and 1/2 spin is 360 degrees. In the quantum realm, there is a hidden dimension of frequency, which we cannot see. When an electron spins in our 4-D world 360 degrees, it has only spun 1/2 of a full quantum spin. This is not something I came up with, it is a part of mainstream physics.
Dave Thomson, APM
That is an explaination of why the Aether Unit is a 2 spin rotating magnetic field.

Here is an explanation on my question of 5 dimensions.
Hi Dean,

Also why do dimensions count as only five?
Is it wrong to count
3 length
2 frequency
1 mass
4 charge

10 dimensions?
Some times I get mixed up when you say 3L 2F (is that five) or is it L, F x 2, M, C = 5, or both?

Actually, I do count the dimensions like that in the book. There is one or two more dimensions if you count the 4pi dimension.

It turns out there is are two groups of five dimensions, depending on how "dimension" is meant. There is the 3L 2F group, and there is the length-frequency-mass-charge-curvature group. If dimension is meant as spatial-temporal, then it is the 3L 2F group. If dimension is meant as a type of characteristic, then it is the length-frequency-mass-charge-curvature group. There is a third group, where we would be talking about all the real dimensions of existence, which would include the ten you listed plus two dimensions of curvature because 16pi^2 is equal to 4pi x 4pi.
Dave Thomson, APM
I believe it is correct to say on the macro scale we see space-time, linear frequency in APM and at the quantum scale there is also space-resonace or distributed frequency in APM. This is within a framework of depending on how we speak of it as two variables of five dimensions, ten dimensions, or twelve dimensions. Each is quantified and is a quantum constant in APM. All are real.

It is commonly accepted in electronics and physics also the concept of reverse wave EM.
It is more accurately explained by APM in their paper on the binding energy of the first orbital electron for all atomic elements.

Electron Binding Energys
In our book, Secrets of the Aether, we have a section about Aether Structures. The steps involved in
building Aether structures involve quantifying the spin differences of matter and Aether.

Although the quantum Aether unit has 2-spin, subatomic particles only inhabit one fourth of the Aether, or half spin.
The spin of the subatomic particles is a direct result of the two dynamic frequency dimensions of the
Aether. One of the dynamic frequency dimensions manifests as forward/backward time, the other
manifests as right/left spin direction. There is actually a third static frequency, which results in
positive/negative electrostatic charge.

All matter in our observed Universe exists in only the forward time direction. This observed matter
further divides into matter and antimatter, depending on which half of the spin direction cycle it exists.
Matter also divides into positive and negative charge depending on which half of the static charge cycle
it exists.

The primary angular momentum composing subatomic particles can only spin in either the forward or
backward time direction, and either the right or left spin direction, and exist in either the positive or the
negative of the static charge dipole. Since static charge is not part of the dynamic two-spin structure of
the Aether, and angular momentum only exists in half the forward/backward time frequency and half the
right/left spin direction, matter appears to have half-spin.

Therefore, when half spin subatomic particles bind they are missing the backward time direction, yet the
Aether sees this backward time direction. The result is that subatomic particles do not pair exactly
opposite or adjacent to each other, as square building blocks seem to do at the macro level of existence.
Instead, the subatomic particles (being curved toroidal structures to begin with), build up in a twisted
pattern.

This twisted construction affects the minor and major radii of the toroidal electrons. As electrons bind
to each other and fill the Aether spin positions around an atomic nucleus, the effect is additive.
In the case of the electrons, the minor radius increases with the number of electrons (which is equal to
the number of protons in a neutral atom). Designating the number of protons as Z, the minor radius
decreases in steps of half spin.

The major radius increases in steps of half spin:

The above stepping patterns are the phi and Phi numbers. In the case of the first binding, where there
are two electrons in helium.

phi = .618
Phi = 1.618

The above numbers are the Golden Ratio (Phi) and its reciprocal (phi).

With the increase in the number of protons in the atoms, there is an increase in the number of electrons.
The total electron radii deform accordingly. As the minor radius shrinks and the major radius grows,
there is a deformation as the Aether units stretch and thus the distance between them shrinks. The
distance empirically induces in terms of the quantum length as (the nth root is a capital Z squared):

There is no electron strong force binding in the neutral hydrogen atom because there is only one
electron, but when we look at helium and all other neutral atoms, the electron binding energy equation
for the 1s orbital electron becomes involved with a strong force:


http://www.16pi2.com/files/Electron_bin ... uation.pdf
This for me finally answers why in organic chemistry the hydrogen atom will disassociate with its electron so readily and become a floating atomic nucleus with no electron shell as an acid in the Ph system of the body.

In APM the quantum constant for mass is the mass of the electron, we find that it is a derivative of phi, a spiral. Since both charges, electrostatic and electromagnetic are also in a distributed double layer construct in my mind, (double layers always create the spiral vortex, my law I found in nature) over lay this with anglular momentum (plancks constant) with that Aether unit of 2 spin rotating magnetic field and you have multiple overlayed vortex's.
Hi Dean,

I’m delighted to see you are catching on. I agree with everything you said.

You are not far off from seeing that non-material space, and the material that fills it both share the exact same geometry. The non-material Aether unit acts as a non-material “container” for the ligamen circulatus. The ligamen circulatus gets its geometry from the Aether.

I fully agree with your views on spirals. I didn’t do as much with spirals as I would like to have done. The Aether unit shows two equal loxodromes, simply because the areas are equal in both halves. However, the only requirement is that the areas remain equal. The small and large diameters of the loxodromes constantly change due to the stretching of the Aether units, but their areas always equal one Compton wavelength squared.

This allows the spiral to occur spatially. Also, the amount of primary angular momentum stored in the electron spin position is 1/1860 of the primary angular momentum stored in the proton position. There has to be a rational reason for this. There is only one dimension of mass, yet it behaves more massive in the proton spin position than it does in the electron spin position. If you look on page 178 you’ll see the onta gap number. It is an equation, based upon Phi, that seems to provide a clue about the different manifestations of mass. Phi is the logarithmic spiral constant. So it may be that mass is somehow inherently spiraled, even though it has no inherent length.

I have a difficult time trying to visualize this and represent it on paper.

Dave Thomson, APM

I would think that would be correct. Thats my own personal belief after six months of synesthesia. The archetype structural form is the spiral vortex. The archetype system that produces it is a double layer. This holographic principle exists from nonmaterial reality to material reality in all scales and all mediums. Tensegrity is an inward continual tension structural engineering principle that applies from energy to matter as the unifying method of structural engineering at all scales.

That would be the inward pressure system webolife always speaks of, that I say is what I am talking about, but he is never quite sure we are on the same page....LOL>

The aether is fluid like, space-time is a thing and is fluid like, both are curved, and the Aether is made of tiny vortex's that scale fractal, holographic with tensegrity. That is your inward pressure model webolife in a aether context.
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Re: Aether Physics Model (APM)

Post by upriver » Thu May 15, 2008 7:35 pm

I'm curious as to what The APM has to say about Wilhelm Reich and orgone?

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