Mars - miscellaneous anomalies

[jjohnson]

Seasmith, back last December you posted this:

For this image only:
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRA ... browse.jpg

and proceeded to talk about its being mounded up rather than a depression.
I clicked on your link, and clicked on the image once to enlarge it, and made a screenshot of a typical location along the "canyon" or "rille" or "mound" - whatever it is.

Looking at the shadowed striations in the shady right side within this structure, which are likely roughly vertical but photographed from an oblique angle, I'd say that they clearly indicate a perspective view of a depressed trench-like structure. There appear to be sand dunes along the floor, lit in a fashion and from an angle consistent with that of the craters along the upper edge of the canyon. How there are craters formed there, without their impact having caved in the walls of the canyon, can only (so far as I know) be explained by EU/EDM examples, not ballistic trajectories of large chunks.

Jim

[seasmith]

Hi Jim,

Yes, i accepted that interpretation later in that thread.

Whatever the purported raised area in Gale's crater turns out to be composed of, i agree with you that EU/EDM is the likely perpetrator.

s

[GaryN]

New mystery on Mars' forgotten plains

One of the supposedly best understood and least interesting landscapes on Mars is hiding something that could rewrite the planet's history. Or not. In fact, about all that is certain is that decades of assumptions regarding the wide, flat Hesperia Planum are not holding up very well under renewed scrutiny with higher-resolution, more recent spacecraft data.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-10-mys ... lains.html
We can't explain the riles, so let's not go there....
Surely it's not possible that all these scientists have not at some time wondered about
the possibility of electrical phenomena? They can come up with no satisfactory explanation
using conventional models, but will not even contemplate the strongest force in the
Universe? This is beyond a lack of understanding of the electric forces, it is an intentional
cover-up. A conspiracy? I can reach no other conclusion.
Does this look like any lava flow you have ever seen?
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/images/wa ... 5_1855.jpg
Wind erosion has carved out these channels, but has left the ridges razor sharp.
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/images/wa ... 4_1865.jpg

[seasmith]

JPL

Three years on Mars ... Compressed to 3 minutes:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... -3-minutes

[Mr_Majestic]

Hello ladies and gentlemen, I come to you with a report on landforms previously undiscovered on Mars. Professor David Montgomery (who is quoted in the article) says the 'periodic bedrock ridges' were formed over a great length of time by wind erosion.

Take a look at this shot of a PBR.



I don't know about you but that doesn't look very wind eroded to me. The words 'electrical scarring' do come to mind.

Thoughts?

[Lloyd]

* If you read the following TPODs, you might find suitable explanations from somewhat similar Mars ridges.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/ ... atures.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2011/ ... wargod.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... 6domes.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... oceans.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... rdunes.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... crater.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... rater2.htm
* The report in your link says:

He contrasts the ridges with another bedrock form called a yardang, which has been carved over time by headwinds. A yardang has a wide, blunt leading edge in the face of the wind, and its sides are tapered so that it resembles a teardrop.

* These two TPODs discuss yardangs.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... ardang.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/ ... uzzles.htm
* Of course, they agree that such ridges are not carved by the thin wind of Mars, but largely by electrical forces.

[The Aten]

But what if Mars, in undergoing its catastrophic transformation from an earth like planet to its now virtual frozen desolate state heated up to such an extent (incandescent red orb) it generated winds comparable to the 300 mph+ winds swirling round Venus.

Gg

[flippinrocks]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... glass.html

April 15, 2012

THEY look dark, but mysterious expanses on Mars are mainly made of glass forged in past volcanoes.

The dark regions make up more than 10 million square kilometres of the Martian northern lowlands, but their composition wasn't clear. Past spectral measurements indicated that they are unlike dark regions found elsewhere on the Red Planet, which consist mainly of basalt.

Briony Horgan and Jim Bell of Arizona State University in Tempe analysed near-infrared spectra of the regions, gathered by the Mars Express orbiter. They found absorption bands characteristic of the iron in volcanic glass, a shiny substance similar to obsidian that forms when magma cools too fast for its minerals to crystallise (Geology, DOI: 10.1130/G32755.1).

The glass likely takes the form of sand-sized grains, as it does in glass-rich fields in Iceland. The spectra suggest the grains are coated with silica-rich "rinds".

On Earth, such rinds coat volcanic glass weathered by water. How the glassy grains formed on Mars is unknown, but Horgan says magma from Martian volcanoes interacting with water ice and snow is a possibility. That would make these regions (pictured right) potential hotspots for alien life because they would have held chemical-rich water - a key ingredient for life.

[starbiter]

I wonder if anyone considers an external source of heat as described in legend and myth when thinking about basalt. A river of fire as it were. How can this not be considered on the Thunderbolts Forum? Volcanoes aren't the only source of molten rock in an Electric Universe.

michael steinbacher.

[flippinrocks]

I don't agree with the link posted either...I just like to see the Electric Universe paradigm rip it to shred's

and go!

[Sparky]

If you take it in context with the rest of Mar's anomalies, then the weight of formative process is with EU.

What visual evidence is supportive of any volcanic activity on Mars? I haven't seen anything that could not be explained by EU.
And, again, the weight is with EU.

[starbiter]

Hello Flippinrocks: I'm pleased to see Your openness to externally produced basalt. The results of molten dust accumulating into what are "normally" considered volcanic deposits are quite obvious in the field. High iron seems to be a signature. The electromagnetic effects during the plasma events seem to attract iron. The andesite produced by the river of fire is high in iron. The andesite in the crater of Mt St Helens is not high in iron. It is high in silicon dioxide. There might be exceptions to this. Some of the volcanic basalts have moderate amounts of iron, but it is rare.

http://www.geokem.com/OIB-volcanic-hawaii.html

[...]
As in the MORBs, fractionation in the tholeiites is mainly confined to Fe-Mg-Ti, any rocks with less than 4% MgO being quite rare as are true ferrobasalts, though a few reach 15.5% Fe2O3 + FeO.

michael

[Lloyd]

Glassified Dunes
* The image looks like glassified dunes.
Juergens
* Ralph Juergens first suggested in about 1975 in his article, Of the Moon and Mars, in Pensee' magazine, now at the Saturnian Cosmology site, I think, that the glass found on the Moon, I think around Schroter's Valley and Hadley Rille, was produced by ED, just as those rilles themselves were. That's the article that has the nice table showing the features of rilles and well various theories account for them. Only EU theory accounts well for all of them. And it didn't include the glass.
Hoagland
* Richard Hoagland had concluded that the glass on the Moon was a result of large, ancient, artificial glass structures, which had gotten hit by meteors over several million years. I went to one of his conferences in 1996 and gave him a copy of the images and part of the article, but he never seemed to pay attention to the EU theory, even though he stated on his forum in 1999 or so that he was planning to do a video or something with Dave Talbott.
Glass Spherules around Earth Craters
* Anyway, a lot of the TPODs mention glass spherules found at a lot of crater sites on Earth. I discussed a lot of crater features on another thread, called Help Us Explain Crater Formation, and showed that they seemed to fit EDM better than anything. The glass spherules was one of those features, I think.
Electric Volcanoes
* And, as has been pointed out, if there were volcanoes on Mars, where are they? The ones called volcanoes there don't look like volcanoes on Earth, except for some seamounts off the coast of Oregon, which likely aren't volcanoes. If there were volcanoes on Mars, EDM seems to have erased them. Another thing is that volcanoes themselves are apparently electrically caused.

[Ion01]

The following article claims these spirals found in the image near the equator of Mars were created by lava. I am not believing this story and I don't think I have to have the correct answer to know that their answer is wrong. However, I was wonder, as I don't really know, what would be a more probable explanation for these structures? Thanks!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/giant-l ... -of-earth/

[redeye]

Here's a similar story with some discussion of how lava spirals are formed.

I'd never heard of lava spirals before.

Cheers!