more "hot wind" out of nasa's mouth

[omni-tom]

An Erratic Black Hole Regulates Itself
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... 9-020.html

Chandra, with its spectrograph, has observed GRS 1915 eleven times since its launch in 1999. These studies reveal that the jet in GRS 1915 may be periodically choked off when a hot wind, seen in X-rays, is driven off the accretion disk around the black hole. The wind is believed to shut down the jet by depriving it of matter that would have otherwise fueled it. Conversely, once the wind dies down, the jet can re-emerge.

"We think the jet and wind around this black hole are in a sort of tug of war," said Joseph Neilsen, Harvard graduate student and lead author of the paper appearing in the journal Nature. "Sometimes one is winning and then, for reasons we don't entirely understand, the other one gets the upper hand."

The latest Chandra results also show that the wind and the jet carry about the same amount of matter away from the black hole. This is evidence that the black hole is somehow regulating its accretion rate, which may be related to the toggling between mass expulsion via either a jet or a wind from the accretion disk. Self-regulation is a common topic when discussing supermassive black holes, but this is the first clear evidence for it in stellar-mass black holes.

They may avoid the 'E" word like the plague, but at least by now it's becoming blatantly obvious

[earls]

Regarding Wal Thornhill's lastest editiorial: http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q

I wanted to forward this release to him for his POV.

I'd also be curious to understand how and why the jets come in different configurations and, if the "black holes" are plasmoid, why we can't see anything - absolutely nothing. They're certainly visible, no? http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/gmrtst/index.htm

Thoughts?

[MGmirkin]

An Erratic Black Hole Regulates Itself
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... 9-020.html

Chandra, with its spectrograph, has observed GRS 1915 eleven times since its launch in 1999. These studies reveal that the jet in GRS 1915 may be periodically choked off when a hot wind, seen in X-rays, is driven off the accretion disk around the black hole. The wind is believed to shut down the jet by depriving it of matter that would have otherwise fueled it. Conversely, once the wind dies down, the jet can re-emerge.

"We think the jet and wind around this black hole are in a sort of tug of war," said Joseph Neilsen, Harvard graduate student and lead author of the paper appearing in the journal Nature. "Sometimes one is winning and then, for reasons we don't entirely understand, the other one gets the upper hand."

From "The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy"
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q

X-ray emission is a signature of electrical activity. There is a persistent high-energy flux from the heart of the Milky Way. The spectral characteristics of the X-ray emission from this region suggests that the source is most likely not point-like but, rather, that it is a compact, yet diffuse, non-thermal emission region, which we should expect from an electromagnetic plasmoid.

The energy of the jets seen issuing from active galactic nuclei (AGNs) is attributed to conversion of gravitational energy of accreting matter into radiation. But that does not explain the character of the jets, or the puzzling “quietness” of our own hypothetical black hole. As recently as 26 March in Nature it was admitted “the mechanisms that trigger and suppress jet formation in [black holes] remain a mystery.” Meanwhile, the plasmoid is well known in the plasma laboratory as a high-density energy storage phenomenon that produces well-collimated jets after a time that depends upon particle collisions within the plasmoid.

Two birds with one stone (x-ray emissions AND the occasional periodicity of jet emission from [... whatever they are; mainstream says "black hole," Thornhill says "plasmoid"])? Throw in an explanation of the double helix nebula (entwined currents in plasma), and methinks Thornhill has another pretty good explanation under the belt...

Regards,
~Michael Gmirkin

[omni-tom]

Correlation between Plasma Dynamics and Emmision of Deuteron Beam, X-Rays and Neutrons in a Plasma Focus Discharge

http://jjap.ipap.jp/link?JJAP/23/242

Department of Electronic Engineering, Gunma University

(Received April 13, 1983; accepted for publication November 26, 1983)

The correlation between the plasma dynamics and the emission of a deuteron beam, X-rays and neutrons in a plasma focus discharge was investigated experimentally. The dynamics were observed using interferometry in the streak mode and framing mode, and the energy distribution of the deuteron beam was measured using a Thomson parabola analyzer. The plasma column was partially disrupted by the m=0 instability. The deuteron emission started some tens of nsec before the disruption of the plasma column, while the X-ray and neutron signals started some Lens of nsec after the disruption. The m=0 instability was observed in each discharge even if neutrons were not produced. It is concluded that the acceleration field of the ion beam giving the neutron yield is generated not by a rapid change in the plasma inductance but by an abrupt rise in the resistivity of the plasma.
The fine structure of the bubble formed in front of the current sheet propagating downstream was observed.

Hmm, what is it that's different about these events aside from scale?

[GaryN]

Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but just what is it that we detect coming from the sun, or any other object in the universe, that requires there to be fusion? As far as I can determine, everything COULD be produced through 100% electro-magnetic means.

[earls]

Regardless, fusion is electromagnetic... The competing models only have different driving forces... One is gravity, crushing everything into a point , the other is a "Bennett" or "Z" pinch of Birkelind currents crushing everything into point.

However, I would assume that heavier ions than H and He are detected leaving the sun... I would be curious though if perhaps the sun is fissioning instead.

[The Great Dog]

The Great Dog is more convinced of the Ralph Juergens solar model than any model based on thermonuclear activity in the stellar core. Bennett pinches are not like gravitational compression -- Bennett pinches compress plasma until it achieves a density sufficient for electrical excitation. The pinch zones are not compacted matter, they are regions of increased flux density similar to a neon lamp.

When plasma gains the ability to carry high current it can light up in arc mode, thus the stars exist in a continuously energized circuit. The stars are what might be deemed isodense globes of lightning, so any nuclear interactions are taking place at, or close to, the cathode surface. There are some members of the Electric Universe community able to carry that idea further, suggesting that the stars may not possess material cores in the way that consensus astrophysical theory proposes.

The Great Dog thinks that much more research is needed before electric stars can be understood.

As far as solar emissions are concerned, The Great Dog thinks that conventional scientists insist that thermonuclear activity drives the solar wind because they have no other tree to pee on. Given one tree, astrophyscists have no choice except to return to it over and over again, no matter how lost the scent becomes.

[earls]

A. Wouldn't "plasma" already be electrically excited?

B. There's neon in neon lamps. The "flux density" you see is "compacted" neon (matter). Consider Fulgurites - electric current passes through sand and fuses it together into glass.

C. The density of the sun increases towards the core, just like planets and any other celestial bodies... Even if that material is deemed "electric particles", matter is electrical particles, hence, the density of matter increases towards the center of the sun. This comes full circle back to the increasing density of the electrical current - the Bennett pinch!

[The Great Dog]

The Great Dog thinks you are misunderstanding the previous post.

Diffuse plasma may carry electric current, but it is not electrically excited to the point where it can shine in arc mode. Your initial comment was that z-pinch zones "compress matter to a point." The stars are not points, they are regions of increased electrical activity. Since they are not 2nd order matter, being 1st order plasma, they do no conform to traditional mass/density calculations.

The Great Dog thinks that the electrical profile of stars that Wal Thornhill and Don Scott have proposed -- following the trail marked by Juergens -- is more reasonable than trying to incorporate ideas from the aging pack of conventional physicists into the electric model.

It's time to run with a new pack and follow their scent.

[earls]

I see.

By "point" I was specifically referring to the "central point" of the star... The core, per se.

Since they are not 2nd order matter, being 1st order plasma, they do no conform to traditional mass/density calculations.

An important aspect I had not taken into consideration.

I don't oppose starting from a clean slate, I just believe a "transition" may be easier. As long as we get from point A to point B some day.

My original point was simply that thermonuclear reactions are still present in either model.