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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by Frantic » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:59 pm

http://www.space.com/26843-rosetta-spac ... ne+Feed%29

They are confused again...
the average surface temperature is minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 70 degrees Celsius).
This is much warmer than would be expected of a comet that is covered in ice, so researchers suspect it is evidence that the comet has a somewhat dusty surface, possibly with ice patches.

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by seasmith » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:02 pm

Samples from Asteroid Itokawa


This has been done before remember, alltho not with resounding success:

The first dust grains ever retrieved from the surface of an asteroid now confirm that these minor planets are constantly shaped by a continuous barrage of high-speed microscopic impacts, scientists find.

The Japanese asteroid probe Hayabusasucceeded in returning more than 1,500 grains of dustfrom the asteroid 25143 Itokawa when it parachuted into the Australian outback in June 2010. Already, the samples from this 1,800 foot-long (550 meter) rubble pile have helped solve the longstanding mystery of where most meteorites striking our planet come from.
Japan prepares for second asteroid sample return
Although the first Hayabusa mission made history, it collected substantially fewer samples than expected because the spacecraft's rock-gathering device failed to function when the probe approached Itokawa.

Hayabusa also suffered from a crippling fuel leak, ion engine failures, reaction wheel problems, battery issues and a break in communications with Earth for two months, and Japanese officials grew concerned they would lose the spacecraft.

But controllers delayed Hayabusa's return to Earth by three years, buying time for engineers to devise a method of using the craft's remaining ion propulsion engines to control its orientation and guide the probe home.

When scientists opened Hayabusa's re-entry capsule after it landed in Australia, they found more than 1,500 tiny rock and soil grains, most of which were confirmed to be from Itokawa.
The Hayabusa spacecraft, flown by the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA), returned samples from asteroid 25143 Itokawa on June 13, 2010. Though the sampling device did not operate properly, the mission was able to return a couple thousand particles, from a few- to a few hundred-micrometers across. A battery of laboratory analyses (electron microscopy, elemental analysis, and oxygen isotopic measurements) shows that the particles derive from materials like those in thermally metamorphosed LL group ordinary chondrites. Astronomical observations had classified Itokawa as a stony S(IV) type of asteroid.
The nature of S-type asteroids has been debated for decades; some astronomers argued that S-type asteroids are ordinary chondrites while others suggested that they were more likely to be differentiated objects (i.e., melted or partially melted to make igneous rocks). The problem was that we did not know enough about space weathering on asteroids to know how the spectra of chondritic or differentiated asteroids changed with exposure to micrometeorites and solar wind. The examinations of Hayabusa's treasure have settled the argument: S-type asteroid, Itokawa, indeed has an ordinary chondrite composition whose spectrum has been reddened by space weathering. This conclusion is supported by detailed studies of the surfaces of 10 Itokawa particles, half of which have glassy rims (5-50 nanometers thick) containing nano-sized particles of iron sulfide and metallic iron, signatures of space weathering.
Analysis of noble gases in three particles from the asteroid indicate that they were exposed on the surface of Itokawa for surprisingly short times, less than 8 million years. The Hayabusa science team suggests that the short exposure time indicates loss of particles into space through small impacts at the surprisingly fast rate of tens of centimeters per million years. This might not seem fast, but the asteroid, only 535 x 294 x 209 meters in size, would become
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Aug11/Itokawa-particles.html

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1303/27 ... -1MglYbSf0

http://www.space.com/14691-asteroid-imp ... mples.html

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chondrite

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:05 pm

Frantic wrote:http://www.space.com/26843-rosetta-spac ... ne+Feed%29

They are confused again...
the average surface temperature is minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 70 degrees Celsius).
This is much warmer than would be expected of a comet that is covered in ice, so researchers suspect it is evidence that the comet has a somewhat dusty surface, possibly with ice patches.
:lol: :o :lol: :o

They actually do still believe comets are icy snowballs! LOL!

After several missions to comets with varied data indicating comets are unequivocally dry asteroid-like bodies, formed in very hot conditions, they cannot drop their brainwashed meme of "icy comets." Pass the popcorn! :lol:

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:03 pm

And they equipped the spacecraft with ice screws! LOL! :lol: :lol: :shock:

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:00 pm

Rosetta Mission Findings: No Room for Dirty Snowballs | Space News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIpU0DpZzM

:lol:

As said previously, baffled scientists are deaf, dumb, and blind to their own data from prior missions to comets!

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:37 pm

To add, you'd think the alleged healthy skepticism and "rigor" so often attributed to the sciences would apply to cometary science and astronomy in general. But it doesn't!

A large reason why space scientists deny their own data that falsifies theories is that it would lead to a literal collapse of MOST of their theories concerning planetary formation and evolution.

Notice how cometary scientists insist, rigidly, that comets must be the "primordial keys to understanding planetary formation." Really? Stepping back to examine that thinking it is easy to see how they have erroneously assigned that idea to comets. This is the same erroneous thinking behind the cosmic microwave background (CMBR) being assigned the designation of the "primordial echo" of the big bang. Moreover, their entire theory of planetary formation is false and has been falsified numerous times for years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YypyHEgEYzw

Be on the lookout for such erroneous and nonsensical assignments of cause to things that may not whatsoever be so demonstrative. Comets have been shown to be rocky, non-icy, asteroid-like, and heavily pitted rocks formed in extremely hot conditions (per crystalline structural evidence) comparable to temperatures seen on the Sun. Yet all of this data is ignored to preserve false theories.

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by Genius Gone Insane » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:12 am

I am like a pig in sh*t right now reading all these articles about how baffled scientists are having learned that comets are warm and rocky, not dirty snowballs.

So awesome!!!!

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:36 pm

Genius Gone Insane wrote:I am like a pig in sh*t right now reading all these articles about how baffled scientists are having learned that comets are warm and rocky, not dirty snowballs.

So awesome!!!!
Exactly :lol: It only took them 30 years to accept that they were all cometary alcoholics drunk with delusion and lies! I find that baffling!

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by Metryq » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:17 pm

Keep in mind that the electric comet is far more than "comets are not dirty snowballs." We're talking about the vertical wall of catastrophism, and that's shifting gears without using a clutch for mainstream scientists. The mainstream will dig in its heels to avoid slamming into that wall at full speed. ("Toons, get's 'em every time!")

That means the gradualism of geology and evolution will be a train wreck. The repercussions will be extremely wide range, which is why astronomers are fighting this so hard.

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by Genius Gone Insane » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:47 pm

^Exactly. The sad fact is that acceptance of Electric Universe theory would be a major disruption to life as we know it. I would not be surprised if the CIA/FBI/NSA pervs consider EU a threat to national security.

(no offense to the NSA pervs that are lurking in this forum)

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by viscount aero » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:49 pm

Metryq wrote:Keep in mind that the electric comet is far more than "comets are not dirty snowballs." We're talking about the vertical wall of catastrophism, and that's shifting gears without using a clutch for mainstream scientists. The mainstream will dig in its heels to avoid slamming into that wall at full speed. ("Toons, get's 'em every time!")

That means the gradualism of geology and evolution will be a train wreck. The repercussions will be extremely wide range, which is why astronomers are fighting this so hard.
BINGO :ugeek: :idea: :o

It threatens not only cosmology and astronomy but human origins, world history (dating of epochs), and a host of other areas of their institutions. They must "gradually" lay this on were they to actually implement the new knowledge. Otherwise it will be like dropping atom bombs on them all at once. The confidence in these institutions as authorities would otherwise suddenly drop.

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Card games on Beta Antares

Unread post by Metryq » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:21 pm

viscount aero wrote:The confidence in these institutions as authorities would otherwise suddenly drop.
The people on top right now will stay on top. They'll spin it so that they've been the ones pitching EU all along, while nut jobs like Velikovsky have been pushing warped space and dark matter. By the time they're done re-writing the history of science, the rules of Fizzbin will look simple.

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Re: Card games on Beta Antares

Unread post by viscount aero » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Metryq wrote:
viscount aero wrote:The confidence in these institutions as authorities would otherwise suddenly drop.
The people on top right now will stay on top. They'll spin it so that they've been the ones pitching EU all along, while nut jobs like Velikovsky have been pushing warped space and dark matter. By the time they're done re-writing the history of science, the rules of Fizzbin will look simple.
Probably yes. They realize the things we are talking about. They are not dumb people, quite the contrary. They are dogmatic however and a threatened lot.

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by Steve Smith » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:17 am

I speculated that it looked like a piece of slag from a blast furnace. It is strange that 11 days have gone by without any new images. I remember when Spirit and Opportunity landed on Mars, there were dozens of new images every day. It makes me wonder if the mission team is sitting around a conference table trying to figure out how to explain what they're seeing:

"Damn, Bill, this thing doesn't look like a snowball to me!"

"Well, Bob, what if we say that the snow is really hard ice deep beneath a rocky shell that's accreted over 10 billion years?"

"Hmm..."

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread post by antosarai » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:03 am

In another thread, regarding another experiment the same Mr. Steve Smith posted:
Steve Smith wrote:There is still a lot to do before anything is published, so the experiment remains behind closed doors. This is so that misunderstanding and criticism don't spread through the net on the basis of incomplete data. A painter wouldn't want his work criticized when all he's done is put in the background and blocked-out his images.

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