Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by kevin » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:33 pm

Valhalla,
Have you ever wondered about the zig zag marking on cremation urns?
Have you ever plotted the adjacent points that shadow each other and form a cross , similer to a celtic cross , or swastika?
have you ever walked inside those DNA spiral pathways ( called cursus, in the UK)?
and started to sing?

I try to keep up with the lord of the jungle, but there is only one, king, of course there is a queen too.
In fact there are many kings and queens( dependent upon the alignment)
they have been called many things through ages, they compliment each other , reflect each other, desire each other, entwined as lovers.
The resonance is created by the moving aether, it varies as it meets resistance created by each and multiples of mass, each one tuned to it's specific scale.
If I concentrate on one in particuler, I can plot it's movement, long before the short distance senses of seeing respond.
The interfererance patterns of the moon create the tides, and much more, especially when the moon is apparently side on.
I do not in fact consider that anything as such is moving , as now accepted, nothing exists permanately, all is switching on/off thousands of times per our seconds, each reform denotes movement, and time.
Kevin

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:48 pm

Granite also emits radiation.
Is radiation necessary to alter DNA?
Can SOUND alter DNA?
How about Ice Ages?
So is an altar an ancient archetype about altering DNA?

What is the oldest crystalline structure on Earth?
The earth is about 4.5 billion years old.
DNA is about 4 billion years old.
DNA is asymmetrical and chiral.
Chiral asymmetry is a clue to unraveling the secrets.
:lol:

Did you know that the archetypal Archimedes developed an archetypal chiral asymmetric screw that made him most famous?
It is a precious clue.
I will let you dwell on it.

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Grey Cloud » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:55 pm

Hi Kevin and Valhalla,

Valhalla wrote:
But the youtube guru fails to understand or acknowledge that a 3rd thread runs down the center ... between the other two, he fails to mention this 3rd thread.
Like this?
Hermes with caduceus
Hermes with caduceus
Kevin, you mentioned the number 144:
Revelation 14:3-5 (ESV)
“ And they were singing a new songbefore the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. For it is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins.
It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.
Highlighted bit for Valhalla. ;)
Then there is the Maya:
A Baktun is 20 Katun cycles of the ancient Maya Long Count Calendar, which contains 144,000 days.
1 + 4 + 4 = 9. The number of Man.
New Testament. 13:18 states: "Here is wisdom, let him who have understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of man; and his number is six hundred three score and six, or 666."
6 + 6 + 6 = 18 = 1 + 8 = 9.
Funny old world.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Grey Cloud » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:15 pm

So is an altar an ancient archetype about altering DNA?
I'm not a big fan of DNA, it's physical so to me it is only for the body. Add to that the fact that I don't believe one percent of what the experts are saying about it.
All is vibration including consciousness. Alter the vibration and you alter the state of consciousness. Consider this scenario:
You are off to your local temple for the service. On arrival you partake of the local tincture or herbal remedy.
Inside the acoustically designed temple the modulated voice of the priest reads the lesson.
This is followed by rhythmic music and chanting.
You're off your head.

The word 'religion' comes from the Latin and means to re-tie or re-bind.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by kevin » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:22 pm

Grey cloud,
I never ignore the straight line( which is merely a series of dots?)
the straight lines, as I detect them, are neutral carrier circuits, about which a duality spirals, and that spiral is variant, in sequence and to scale, eg:-21/34.
The straight lines were utilised to survey the churchs and cathedrals, I KNOW that as fact, i have checked, and know why all 1750 churchs across this land vary in their alignment, because I KNOW the measure of the matrix, it's geometry, it's lattice structure.
I KNOW it as well as I know the back of my hands, and my hands are antennae, as are our feet, but the hands can utilise implements, as did the egyptians, WATCH THE HANDS, watch what they hold and where they are held, positive is up from the surface to aprox 30 inches, all above is negative, the ankh held down into positive(life) the staff held up into negative ( male )

The pyramids are resonant scale models of the relevant matrix upon which they are constructed to mimick, they do reflect alignments out into the heavens as above, so below, what is above is a mirror image of the surface area of each sphere relative to the point of the observer upon each sphere, and the harmonics are mirrored the same, timing is involved I presume because as the whole system mirrors out in scale , it repeats geometrically and is in constant such flux.
kevin

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:58 pm

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Image

I forgot to insert this image.
Question in reference to what the text above says:

If Archimedes the mythical archetypal fella knew about chirality (the design of the screw is chiral) ...
Why was such a big deal was made when Louis Pasteur 'discovered' chirality in tartaric acid...?
2000 years later?
Why play stupid when its comes to chirality and enantiomers?
Why was it ignored in something called Thalidomide?
Eh?

Kevin you mentioned hands are receivers?
Sign language indicates they are also transmitters.
You will enjoy this thread.
http://chirality.ouvaton.org/homepage.htm

What took science so long eh to recognize and acknowledge chirality and handedness and here is the best part...
Handedness is directly connected to CW and CCW and so is magnetism.
I learned that on this site...from Altonhare's youtube guru.
;)

Suggesting a real good reason why the chiral hands are busy reaching for the gold and accepting questionable Nobel Prizes instead of passing on real truth, and tried traditions...we now pass the buck and profit from misdirection...

[MOD note: off-topic and irrelevant, gossipy comments, hearsay, and opinion in response to a likewise irrelevant and baited conjecture deleted as were the few other related posts leading down the garden pathway to personal rancor amongst forum members]

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:37 pm

kevin wrote:Valhalla,
Have you ever wondered about the zig zag marking on cremation urns?
Image

DNA comes in essentially two flavors.
Zig Zag is one.

Zig Zags are the oldest marks ... the human mind etched into stone ... recall reading 100,000+ B.C.

Yes I have wondered about Z = S too.
And vortex mathematician Marko Rodin equates 5 = 2.
And what would Runes have to do with archetypal glyphs?

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:50 pm

"Raphael's site wants to discuss SOUND and its effect or connections to the aether.
This site wants to bury the aether.
I see what the problem is now.
Always comes down to ego in the end.
Why humanity fails to get together and find a unity."
I just wrote a post correcting the above comment.
It has disappeared.
Is this a common theme on this forum?
Disappearing entries?

The correction I want to make.
Plasma = LUMINIFEROUS AETHER = Dark Matter and Dark Energy

And I support Raphael's version of the events.
The swastika is being deliberately downplayed.
It is the only archetypal symbol that can be posited between the two quantum movements CW and CCW.
Case closed.
Raphael has vision, and I include him as a good friend of mine.
Is this forum going to ban his friends too?

1 post of mine is already gone...poof...gone.

Valhalla

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:58 pm

Valhalla wrote:

[MOD note: off-topic and irrelevant, gossipy comments, hearsay, and opinion in response to a likewise irrelevant and baited conjecture deleted as were the few other related posts leading down the garden pathway to personal rancor amongst forum members]
Why don't you give the member a chance to edit before you slice 'n' dice.
I have to decide now how much more of my time I am willing to waste composing an entry just to have somebody who thinks they are judge and jury, executioner and exterminator.
Scary forum rules.
So people and posts disappear here, on this forum?
True?

Electric Universe is the future?
Wave of the future?
This site wants to be among those who are at the helm?
:shock:

Play fair.

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by bboyer » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:16 am

Valhalla wrote:
"Raphael's site wants to discuss SOUND and its effect or connections to the aether.
This site wants to bury the aether.
I see what the problem is now.
Always comes down to ego in the end.
Why humanity fails to get together and find a unity."
I just wrote a post correcting the above comment.
It has disappeared.
Is this a common theme on this forum?
Disappearing entries?

The correction I want to make.
Plasma = LUMINIFEROUS AETHER = Dark Matter and Dark Energy

And I support Raphael's version of the events.
The swastika is being deliberately downplayed.
It is the only archetypal symbol that can be posited between the two quantum movements CW and CCW.
Case closed.
Raphael has vision, and I include him as a good friend of mine.
Is this forum going to ban his friends too?

1 post of mine is already gone...poof...gone.

Valhalla
Hello, Valhalla.

Okay. You've had your say. Now please get on with it. And please read the forums Rules & Guidelines. The moderators here have no hidden agenda or interest in banning "Raphael's friends" or anyone else who abides by their agreement to honor the Rules & Guidelines upon which their membership has been approved. If you need to say something about swastika symbolism then, as far as I'm concerned, fine say it and be done with it. Here in this thread. But make no mistake in that if we (forum moderators) find you spamming a personal agenda across numerous forum areas and topics as had been done in the past with regard to this particular symbolism then they will be deleted as well. And any chronic display of disrespect toward other members or moderators will result in a ban. This is all in the Rules & Guidelines. There's no mystery, conspiracy, or ulterior motive attached to it.

Any further conjectural or opinionated discussion of "ancient history" with regard to banned parties will be deleted. If persisted with then, yes, you will be banned.
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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:06 am

arc-us wrote:

Any further conjectural or opinionated discussion of "ancient history" with regard to banned parties will be deleted. If persisted with then, yes, you will be banned.
I do not need to reference what's his name to discuss the preliterate prehistoric symbol called the swastika, and its connection to the only two movements available in a flat quantum world.
CW and CCW

The consistency of these universal movements and the fact this symbol is preliterate and prehistoric are facts that support a certain thesis, it is neither conjectural nor an opinionated discussion about 'ancient history'.
It is an exact science, it is archeology, astronomy,it is many disciplines combined.
Just because the symbol and its associations show up every where...what does this mean?
We ignore it ... or pay attention?

How is SOUND connected to the swastika and magnetism?

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by bboyer » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:25 am

For clarification, the "ancient history" referred to was forum history, specifically an attempt to rehash the forum history of a banned party.
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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by kevin » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:52 am

Arc-us,
Before the crash of this site, I was blocked from posting on this site, I presume because I was stepping outside of accepted and proven science and theories.
Now there is a seperate section, called new insights , and mad ideas.
I appreciate your efforts to contain threads on track, and do not envy your task.
Could I ask that if any post is moved, or at worse removed, a note is left informing of where/why, please.

As a dowser, I am ever so well used to the skeptic, the ridicule, the term,"BURN THE WITCH"
The constant cry for PROOF.
I am seeking that proof, and feel that contained in this wonderfull site are the people from all walks of life seeking that proof, none of us can be right all of the time.
There's a good old saying,
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by junglelord » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:14 am

The four current concept
DC/AC (Transverse)
Impulse/Oscillating (Longitudinal)
Since EM has its background in the Rule of Quadrature, which by its very nature makes the symbol known as the german insignia if there are four currents.
Seems important to me.
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
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Re: Sound (split from "Why an ether/aether?")

Post by Valhalla » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:16 am

kevin wrote:
As a dowser...
I love how the shape of dowser's rod/branch is shaped like the letter ' Y ' .
What is your 'spin' on this shape.
Why is it most effective, in picking up vibrations we cannot hear...but feel?
Is it any different than casting your fly fishing rod, and feeling the subtle nibble/tug of a fish biting' at the bait?
Are you casting out an invisible line into the universal ocean, the luminiferous aether?

I do have an observation and question regarding our role in the above analogy.

What if we are the bait attached to the rod, creating a certain vibe, about to be nibbled on?
:lol: :lol:

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