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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Plasmatic » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:32 am

Could you also show how consciousness is objective? Are you saying that ones thoughts are always correct? Have you never been mistaken?
This is NOT what "objective" means at all to Oist! You would know this GC if you actually read the context these ideas came from. Maybe we should go to the thread on Oism to finally address this.



You should really try reading Aristotle for yourself rather than rely on this sort of thing. These Randians misrepresent Aristotle in order to give their own philosophy some sort of intellectual heritage. It is a simple matter to show that Aristotle didn't maintain that 'only concretes exist':
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/soul.3.iii.html#333
Part 4
Turning now to the part of the soul with which the soul knows and thinks (whether this is separable from the others in definition only, or spatially as well) we have to inquire (1) what differentiates this part, and (2) how thinking can take place.
Perhaps you and the Randians see the soul as a 'concrete'? And that is not an isolated sentence from Aristotle, I could post reams of similar material. Just have a scan of the link and see if I or the Randians are giving the truer picture of Aristotle.
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There is nothing in that quote that actually defines the "soul" what ever so how did you come to the conclusion it supports your claim! In fact We may need to address this in the other thread to beause you are indeed unaware of Aristotles claims as realtes to Oism!
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Re: Objectivism

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 am

Hi Zakhur,
You wrote:
The word is "anamnesis."
That's the third spelling of the word I have come across. I know what it means and I know that it works, that is why I recommended it to Birkeland.
One of his conclusions, therefore, was that the best lived life was the one in which a person did everything possible to "recall" everything they had "forgotten" when they were born into the physical world.
Wrong. Could you refer me to where of Plato states this?
He recommended certain behavioral habits to accomplish this which escape my memory.
Try anamnesis.

If you wish to understand Plato try reading Plato or check out these:
http://www.hermes-press.com/
http://www.hermes-press.com/plato_index.htm
http://www.hermes-press.com/PT_menu.htm

http://plato-dialogues.org/plato.htm
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:06 am

Hi Plasmatic,
So you are saying that 'objective' to objectivists what 'objective' means to regular folks? If so, I am not interested in what they have to say about it.
There is nothing in that quote that actually defines the "soul" what ever so how did you come to the conclusion it supports your claim!
A definition of soul was not the reason for the quote. I gave the link so folk could read Aristotle's view on such things. My point was to show that he didn't restrict himself to conccretes and or the physical world.
In fact We may need to address this in the other thread to beause you are indeed unaware of Aristotles claims as realtes to Oism!
If I am unaware of Aristotle's views I will educate myself by reading Aristotle not by reading the subjective views of the objectivists. As it happens I am currently working my way through his Metaphysics. So far, the only thing I don't understand is how someone so intelligent can write so poorly.
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by altonhare » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:07 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:Seeing as you are so well versed in the philosphies of Plato and Kant, could you please dilate on how and where they suggest science is a fool's errand; how they summarily dismiss science and philosophy; how they void themselves; how they are pure contradiction; how they reject
identity?
I am not well versed, I'm basing my statements on the article, as I made clear in my post.

They do not come right out and say that science is a fool's errand, but it appears this is what Kant's philosophy amounts to. If our observation is hopelessly "filtered" by our consciousness then there is no point in trying to understand the universe, we simply cannot. Everything we observe, everything we think, all of it is just a filtered version of what is. By extension, using consciousness to formulate Kant's philosophy casts doubt over Kant's philosophy itself.

As far as Plato is concerned, he states that the universe is not "ordered" but rather order is imposed on it by "something". I take this to mean that identity is not inherent but rather imposed. What if this "something" removes this order or changes it? Indeed, learning anything about a universe in which things do not inherently have identity doesn't make sense.
Could you also show how consciousness is objective? Are you saying that ones thoughts are always correct? Have you never been mistaken?
Coming to an erroneous conclusion does not invalidate the objectivity of consciousness. As a conscious entity I have identity, every object composing me has identity and interacts with every other entity in a specific way in accordance with that identity. This is what it means to say that consciousness is objective. An erroneous conclusion is one that violates identity. Since consciousness is objective we can identity faulty conclusions simply by applying identity i.e. non self-contradiction.

I'll be reading your link for a bit.
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:40 pm

Hi Alton,
You wrote,
I am not well versed, I'm basing my statements on the article, as I made clear in my post.
Exactly my point. This is why I prefer to get my information straight from the horse's mouth. I am sure that we both agree on what comes out of the horse's other end?
They do not come right out and say that science is a fool's errand, but it appears this is what Kant's philosophy amounts to. If our observation is hopelessly "filtered" by our consciousness then there is no point in trying to understand the universe, we simply cannot. Everything we observe, everything we think, all of it is just a filtered version of what is. By extension, using consciousness to formulate Kant's philosophy casts doubt over Kant's philosophy itself.
Continuing with my equine metaphor, here you are putting the cart
before the horse. Kant, and rationalists generally, maintained that objective reality was filtered through the senses. To the rationalists mind or consciousness is king.
As far as Plato is concerned, he states that the universe is not "ordered" but rather order is imposed on it by "something". I take this to mean that identity is not inherent but rather imposed. What if this "something" removes this order or changes it? Indeed, learning anything about a universe in which things do not inherently have identity doesn't make sense.
'Ordered' and 'unordered' is a Greek concept rather than specifically a Platonic one. Kaos is the unordered and Kosmos is the ordered Universe. The former is the Universe in potential and the latter the Universe in realisation or action.
The physical world changes continually as Heraclitus pointed out before Plato. Everything is moving, evolving, changing. How many of your body's cells will have died and been replaced in the time it takes to read this post? As I understand it, in less than a year all ones cells have been replaced at least once.
Change is unavoidable as the Universe is dynamic. No change is random, accidental or coincindental.
Coming to an erroneous conclusion does not invalidate the objectivity of consciousness. As a conscious entity I have identity, every object composing me has identity and interacts with every other entity in a specific way in accordance with that identity. This is what it means to say that consciousness is objective. An erroneous conclusion is one that violates identity. Since consciousness is objective we can identity faulty conclusions simply by applying identity i.e. non self-contradiction.
I understand what you are saying here but it seems to me to be predicated on human consciousness being the last word in consciousness. Consciousness is a part of the Kosmos so it is as susceptible to change as anything else. Also, you have no way of knowing how far up 'the food chain' (current) human consciousness is.
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The great Way is simple
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by bboyer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:48 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:
altonhare wrote:They do not come right out and say that science is a fool's errand, but it appears this is what Kant's philosophy amounts to. If our observation is hopelessly "filtered" by our consciousness then there is no point in trying to understand the universe, we simply cannot. Everything we observe, everything we think, all of it is just a filtered version of what is. By extension, using consciousness to formulate Kant's philosophy casts doubt over Kant's philosophy itself.


Continuing with my equine metaphor, here you are putting the cart
before the horse. Kant, and rationalists generally, maintained that objective reality was filtered through the senses. To the rationalists mind or consciousness is king.
"Objective" reality certainly appears filtered to me.
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caption: A vase from China's Song dynasty demonstrates the use of very faint contrast borders to create the illusion of shading on a one-color background. The phenomenon is known as edge induction. The image of the vase is overlaid over the Cornsweet illusion, in which the left half of a rectangle divided in two looks lighter and the right area darker. Holding one's hand over the center of the image reveals that the left and the right are in fact the same color. The brain "fills in" the color on the left and the right in response to information from the middle border. Courtesy of Anna Roe

When in doubt about what we see, our brains fill in the gaps for us by first drawing the borders and then "coloring" in the surface area, new research has found. The research is the first to pinpoint the areas in the brain, and the timing of their activity, that are responsible for how we see borders and surfaces. [emphasis in original]The research was published online by Nature Neuroscience on Aug. 19.

"When you look at objects, they can be defined as either the contour of the object or surface features, like color and brightness. There's been a debate in neuroscience about how this occurs: Do you first see the contour and then fill it in like a coloring book, or do you see the surface and from there grow it out to build the contour?" says Anna Roe, Vanderbilt University associate professor of psychology and one of the study's authors. "Our examination of individual neurons in the visual cortex revealed that the former is true — our brains process the border information first and fill in the surface information second, causing us to perceive something that is in fact not really there."

The authors open the paper with the example of vases from China's Song dynasty on which faintly contrasting carved lines create the illusion of shading on a one-color background. The phenomenon is known as edge induction, and it is believed to help us distinguish objects in dim light or through fog, or when we see objects through dappled light, such as would be found in a forest. In these conditions, the authors hypothesized that our brain seizes upon the edge and then fills in the rest of the object. In the case of the vase, we see the contrasting border and perceive that the areas within the border also are of that contrasting color, even though in fact they are the same color as the rest of the background.

The authors set out to understand what is happening at the neural level in these situations by examining activity in individual neurons in the visual cortex of cats while the cats were looking at an illusion much like the one presented by the vase. The illusion, called the Craik-O'Brien-Cornsweet illusion, is a rectangular field of gray divided in half by a shaded middle border. The area to the left of the border appears brighter than that to the right. In reality, the brighter and darker areas exist only at the border; the surrounding areas to the left and the right are the exact same brightness. The illusion causes the brain to apply the brightness and darkness it sees at the border to the areas to the left and the right. [emphasis added]

"The Cornsweet illusion is a very good example of edge induction — taking information from the edge of an object and applying it to the rest of the object," Roe said. "It demonstrates that a lot of what you perceive is actually a construction in your brain of border information plus surface information. In other words, a lot of what you see is not accurate. We were interested in understanding how the border and surface information combine to achieve what you end up seeing."

Roe and her colleagues found that when presented with the illusion, the neurons that respond to edges fired first and the neurons that respond to texture fired second. This firing delay was only seen when the subjects perceived a brightness difference within an image; when presented with an image that did not appear different in brightness, the neurons fired at the same time.

"We found that the timing of neuronal firings is not a fixed thing in the brain, it depends on what you are looking at," Roe said. "This is a great example of neuronal activity being dependent on a stimulus that is directly correlated to how we perceive objects. It is not hardwired — neural activity and relationships between neurons change depending upon the stimulus."

The authors also discovered that the neuronal response to the illusion took place by neurons residing in two separate areas of the visual cortex.

"It seems like this kind of border-to-surface delay was really prevalent in cell pairs in the two different areas of the visual cortex," Roe said. "This is the first example of interaction between two areas underlying border-surface perception. It emphasizes in a way that hasn't been emphasized before how important inter-area relations are in visual perception.

An important implication of this study is that it emphasizes the key role of neuronal interactions in the brain, rather than simply neuronal activity level, in visual perception," Roe said. "Thus, methods that are good at detecting activity levels, such as fMRI, may miss some of these basic mechanisms. So, it's important to have different tools to assess different aspects of brain response."

Roe's co-authors were Chou P. Hung, National Yang Ming University, Taipei, Taiwan, and Benjamin M. Ramsden, West Virginia University School of Medicine.

Source: Vanderbilt University

http://www.physorg.com/news106849780.html
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:43 pm

Hi arc-us,
Interesting article. The brain is only as good as the info it receives. Garbage in - garbage out?
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by bboyer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:58 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:Hi arc-us,
Interesting article. The brain is only as good as the info it receives. Garbage in - garbage out?
Hey GC. Yeah, I'm just not so sure that the distinction between/amongst objective and subjective reality is as clearly defined as some would like to present it.
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:09 pm

arc-us wrote:
Grey Cloud wrote:Hi arc-us,
Interesting article. The brain is only as good as the info it receives. Garbage in - garbage out?
Hey GC. Yeah, I'm just not so sure that the distinction between/amongst objective and subjective reality is as clearly defined as some would like to present it.
Hi arc,
It's the old squiggles and goo thing again. That's just my subjective opinion of course. :lol:
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by bboyer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:34 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:
arc-us wrote:
Grey Cloud wrote:Hi arc-us,
Interesting article. The brain is only as good as the info it receives. Garbage in - garbage out?
Hey GC. Yeah, I'm just not so sure that the distinction between/amongst objective and subjective reality is as clearly defined as some would like to present it.
Hi arc,
It's the old squiggles and goo thing again. That's just my subjective opinion of course. :lol:
Precisely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi_ldNRNtM
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Plasmatic » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:38 pm

Hi Plasmatic,
So you are saying that 'objective' to objectivists what 'objective' means to regular folks? If so, I am not interested in what they have to say about it.

If not you would be dishonest to continue your criticism ofthe Oist ideas as you have no concept of what they are actually saying. The ENTIRE criticism you are asserting along with everything the article Arc posted misses the whole problem completely!
As well I havent seen a single example of anything Oisim asserts about Aristotle thats wrong, do you have a particular
example?


I have an entire lecture on Aristotles metaphysics that is particularly about his concept of concrete primaries.
If I am unaware of Aristotle's views I will educate myself by reading Aristotle not by reading the subjective views of the objectivists. As it happens I am currently working my way through his Metaphysics.So far, the only thing I don't understand is how someone so intelligent can write so poorly.
Amen to that! :lol: But youd be wise to stop criticising what your uneducated on would you not?

I understand what you are saying here but it seems to me to be predicated on human consciousness being the last word in consciousness. Consciousness is a part of the Kosmos so it is as susceptible to change as anything else. Also, you have no way of knowing how far up 'the food chain' (current) human consciousness is.

"Human consciousness" is the only subject relevent to the discussion of epistemology my friend. The fact that things change does not invalidate Identity . Reconciling the "one and the many" is simple when you understand Identiy. Any upper "food chain" consciousness has nothing to say about the fact that ALL existents have identity independant of any consciousness and that consciousness itself has identity!

Kant, and rationalists generally, maintained that objective reality was filtered through the senses. To the rationalists mind or consciousness is king.
Yep and both were wrong in their conclusions!
"subjectivity" violates Identity and is therefore an invalid concept!
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by bboyer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:58 pm

Plasmatic wrote:<snip> Any upper "food chain" consciousness has nothing to say about the fact that ALL existents have identity independant of any consciousness and that consciousness itself has identity!
Interesting that you label this assertion as a fact and not an opinion. Of what relevance is an existent's identity if divorced from the consciousness thereof at some scale or other, by some entity of awareness and consciousness within that scale? Subtract consciousness, then you are left with something akin to what each of us experience when we experience un-recollectable dreamless sleep. Assuming that is true, that material existents have inherent identity to the exclusion of any consciousness being aware of such, then my attitude is ... well, so what? What's the relevance to such as we, we consciously aware beings of presence?

Just my thoughts about it, which I've stated before so I'm just repeating myself. Over-and-out. :P
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:20 pm

Hi Plasmatic,
I wrote
So you are saying that 'objective' to objectivists what 'objective' means to regular folks? If so, I am not interested in what they have to say about it.
Whoops. It should read:
So you are saying that 'objective' to objectivists is not what 'objective' means to regular folks? If so, I am not interested in what they have to say about it.
For the record apart from the fact that I disagree that anyone can be objective full stop, I have no bone to pick with Rand as such. None of her other stuff appears particularly original so I prefer to deal with the original which generally means the Greeks.
My main problem with your or the Randian citing of Aristotle is that you/they make him out to be some kind of Vulcan who is focused on the physical and material and who wont have any truck with the non-material. I maintain that he is first and foremost a Greek so his philosophy fits in with the general Greek worldview.
He talks of gods, immortals, souls etc as freely and easily as Plato or any other Greek.

You say you have a lecture series on Aristotle but I'm guessing that it not by Aristotle. I also have lectures on Aristotole and I have also read various chunks and tracts of his works. As I stated previously I am currently reading his Metaphysics.
As I have stated elsewhere, Metaphysics is not a book as such. It was complield by a third party from Aristotle's lecture notes. The lectures were on the metaphysics of Plato so it is no surprise that he criticises Plato's ,e.g. Forms, as that is what philosophers did back in the days when there were philosophers - they built upon what went before them and they encouraged their students to think for themselves. The student was not expected to 'learn' the philosophy of a particular philosopher in the modern sense of the word 'learn'. A particular 'philosophy' was the raw material for the student to work with. Nor was philosophy a three-year degree course- it was life-long learning and living it deal.

You wrote:
"Human consciousness" is the only subject relevent to the discussion of epistemology my friend.


Perhaps, but epistemiology as a distinct subject is a modern invention. The three areas of classical (read Greek) philosophy are: Metaphysics (who, where and what I am etc); Ethics (the question of personal conduct); and Politics (the question of governance). To the Greeks, and me, the three are inseparable.
In that order they represent: All, One and Some. And the Greeks deliberately put Man in the middle. We do not live in the Universe as you live in the USA or I live in the UK; we are part of the Universe, as much so as a comet or a moonbeam. We are subject to the same laws as everthing else in the Universe. one lives in a community but one is free to leave that community if one so desires. One cannot leave the Universe.

You wrote:
Reconciling the "one and the many" is simple when you understand Identiy.


The One and the Many works at the macro and the micro levels. At the macro it is The One and the many where Man is one of the many. At the micro it is Politics where Man is the One and the community the many.
The Universe has an identity and we are part of it. SAs U.G. Krishnamurti said: we are just the thought of a thought.

You wrote:
"subjectivity" violates Identity and is therefore an invalid concept!
Hi Plasmatic,
So you are saying that 'objective' to objectivists what 'objective' means to regular folks? If so, I am not interested in what they have to say about it.
If not you would be dishonest to continue your criticism ofthe Oist ideas as you have no concept of what they are actually saying. The ENTIRE criticism you are asserting along with everything the article Arc posted misses the whole problem completely!
As well I havent seen a single example of anything Oisim asserts about Aristotle thats wrong, do you have a particular
example?

I have an entire lecture on Aristotles metaphysics that is particularly about his concept of concrete primaries.
If I am unaware of Aristotle's views I will educate myself by reading Aristotle not by reading the subjective views of the objectivists. As it happens I am currently working my way through his Metaphysics.So far, the only thing I don't understand is how someone so intelligent can write so poorly.
Amen to that! :lol: But youd be wise to stop criticising what your uneducated on would you not?
I understand what you are saying here but it seems to me to be predicated on human consciousness being the last word in consciousness. Consciousness is a part of the Kosmos so it is as susceptible to change as anything else. Also, you have no way of knowing how far up 'the food chain' (current) human consciousness is.
"Human consciousness" is the only subject relevent to the discussion of epistemology my friend. The fact that things change does not invalidate Identity . Reconciling the "one and the many" is simple when you understand Identiy. Any upper "food chain" consciousness has nothing to say about the fact that ALL existents have identity independant of any consciousness and that consciousness itself has identity!
Kant, and rationalists generally, maintained that objective reality was filtered through the senses. To the rationalists mind or consciousness is king.
Yep and both were wrong in their conclusions!
"subjectivity" violates Identity and is therefore an invalid concept!
Then neither you nor I would appear to have identity as we both view things subject to our individual perspectives.
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I will follow the great Way alone
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Grey Cloud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:37 pm

Hi Plasmatic, :)
Picking up on arc's post:
Plasmatic wrote:
<snip> Any upper "food chain" consciousness has nothing to say about the fact that ALL existents have identity independant of any consciousness and that consciousness itself has identity!
You cannot prove that. What you mean is that existents have identity independently of human consciousness. I personally would not be so sure of that as I am not yet certain of what a 'human' actually is. Your assertion depends on how far up the food chain we go. In the One and the many of Parmenides the One is is the top of the chain. The many are the result of the One's consciousness. One mind; many thoughts, so to speak. Even the Universe is one of the many as it originates from the One.
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I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
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Re: The Philosophic Roots of the Rejection of Physical Causation

Post by Zakhur » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:41 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:Hi Zakhur,
You wrote:
Don't confuse (you may not be) Plato with his philosophical better, Socrates. I've come to the conclusion that Plato was less comprehensive in his thought than was his master. I think Norsen probably has a point in what he says.
How did you reach the above conclusion when Socrates didn't actually write anything so you can not have read and compared the two?
You can read the differences for yourself in Plato's works containing the thought of Socrates and the works containing Plato's original thought. I see differences. You may not. Difference of opinion then.

I know people argue that Plato invented or embellished Socrates for some reason of self-advancement. However, its sufficent for me that enough scholars and historians agree that Plato accurately presented Socrates' thought.
Grey Cloud wrote:You also wrote:
I share your [Alton's] enthusiasm. Enlightenment philosophy has been an exercise in a lunatic's self-absorption. We are less able to discover the world outside our minds as a result.

And exactly how do you justify this statement?
Oh, you think Enlightenment philosophy has made us better? Please tell me how.

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