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Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Atlas Shrugged. Banks being broke? What is real anyway? Is Ayn Rands best seller a secret handshake for the NWO?

Is this real or fantasy?
The Corporate Veil, come look inside.
The term "Piercing the Corporate Veil" is a legal one which identifies the process where a court removes the protection provided individual members of a corporation for criminal activity, and makes these members responsible for their own actions. In reality, according to the original meaning of corporations, is that these corporate groups were established exactly for that reason; for unlawful purposes, primarily to escape punishment for their crimes by placing the blame on a fictional organization responsible to no one.
The "United States" government jumped on the corporate bandwagon the first part of the 1870's by declaring themselves a separate entity from Constitutional government. This, of course, followed the war between the states and the supposed Fourteenth Amendment, which lawfully never was, but was accepted by the newly formed corporation called the "United States."

The fact that the Constitution had already established a United States was inconsequential to those traitors in Congress, because it was the Constitution itself they wanted destroyed, and the war, instigated by the Jewish factions of Europe, was fought for this purpose, and all the flowery fictions blamed for the war is pure fantasy.

Corporations themselves are natural processes of society, that is, when a group of people gather for a particular purpose, such as for forming a community they are a corporation, and there can be no criminal intent attached thereto, but it is when corporations are established with the power to declare themselves bankrupt that makes them criminal. This is the situation of our "government" today; the richest, most powerful nation on earth "bankrupt." Just the thought is ridiculous.

Corporations are legal fictions; that is, they do not exist except in the minds of men. Anyone can create a fantasy in their own mind and make it do for them what they please, but these fantasies cannot, nor do not extend to areas outside the realm of personal capacity. Corporations are made of living, breathing men, all with the same ideas and purposes, so we can look upon them with the same limitations as the individual, and that is their jurisdiction is confined to the lawful area of their creation.

A corporation, being a legal fiction, cannot think, it cannot act in any manner, even to communication with natural man, and for this reason it must have somebody, or bodies to speak and act for it, and the lawyers have set themselves up for this task.

The enormity of corporate enterprises is limited only by imagination, and they are gold mines for the bar associations, which are corporations themselves. Even thieves must leave an out for themselves, as they never know when the worm will turn, and "dumb" burrowing rodents will have at least two exits from their dens. After years of research, a few people locally have found, what we believe to be that "out" from corporate jurisdiction which has been milking the citizens of this nation for well over a century.

We have had great success with this "out," and the shocked looks and frenzies of judges presented with this procedure show us that we are on the right track. As all other "sure" things, however, we can't rest on our laurels and be smug with our assumptions that it is fool proof.

We have to remember that it took the lawyer profession many years to come up with their gimmicks, and they aren't going to fall over and play dead as we proceed to break up their playhouses, and we know from experience that they know how to play rough. The idea is to hit hard, fast, and as widespread as possible before they can see what is happening, and that is why we need as much diversity and geographical application as we can muster.

There is nothing complicated about the procedure of disclaiming corporation existence, which is what all this is about; the difficulty lies overcoming a lifetime of corporate propaganda, and we have had great difficulty in this area. We who work with this procedure went through the same agonizing process before we realized that it really works. We were looking for the complicated when the answer to our problems was right under our noses all of the time.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by lizzie » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:32 pm

Plasmatic said:

What a hilarious pile of complete stupidity. This has NOTHING to do with anything on this forum.The article shows that the author is either intentionally dishonest or never read the book. This shows that you have absolutely NO rebuttal to anything she says so you are trying to resort to discrediting her character. You havent read a thing about her im sure.If you did you would know that a consistently opposite philosophy is what has grown everywhere. This would be obvious because the collectivist assault on reason and individuality [like private/intellectual property] in the book is precisley what is taking place all around us.
Au contraire, mon frere, it has everything to do with everything that is going on. It has always been controlled and staged from the very beginning…from the moment 33rd degree master mason, George Washington became the first president. ALL of it has been staged; every single bit of it with the latest abominations being 911 and the Iraq war. It is allowed to continue because people refuse to believe it is true. "They would never lie to us; they are our leaders"...blah, blah, blah. Perhaps it would be more accurate to ask ourselves if they ever tell us the truth. Albert Pike was a 33rd degree master mason. Notice what he thinks of the "masses." Almost every single US president has been a 33rd degree master mason.

"Fictions are necessary to the people,
and the Truth becomes deadly
to those who are not strong enough
to contemplate it in all its brilliance.
In fact, what can there be in common between
the vile multitude and sublime wisdom?
The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need
a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason".
Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Sovereign Grand Commander
Mother Supreme Council of the World
THE SUPREME COUNCIL of the ThirtyThird and Last Degree
Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
Morals and Dogma, page 103

Ever wonder what NAFTA is really all about? Well, have a look.

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/

http://www.isgp.eu/

http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/2008/0 ... the-world/

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin ... un02.shtml

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin ... un02.shtml

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin ... un02.shtml
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Re: What is Real?

Post by Plasmatic » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:41 pm

Try reading the book before regurgitating some clowns ideas about it.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by lizzie » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:50 pm

Plasmatic said: Try reading the book before regurgitating some clowns ideas about it.
He who laughs last, laughs best; and it doesn't look as if it will be "we the people" at this rate unless we ALL wake up.

P.S. I have read it all, but I bet you did not.

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Re: What is Real?

Post by Birkeland » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:51 pm

lizzie wrote:It has always been controlled and staged from the very beginning…from the moment 33rd degree master mason, George Washington became the first president. ALL of it has been staged; every single bit of it with the latest abominations being 911 and the Iraq war. It is allowed to continue because people refuse to believe it is true.
Because people refuse to believe? Crackpots with religious mindsets grows like weed these days. The main reason is probably the huge amount of informaton available through internet. The human brain has its limitation when it comes to processing power, and it is not recomendable to connect all the dots as the risk of blowing some fuses due to information overflow could occur if associative thinking grabs sanity and runs with it. Contextual thinking comes in handy - staying away from drugs is another golden rule. In the name of science: GET REAL!
"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see" - Ayn Rand

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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:25 pm

The Free-Man on the Land link I posted from BC Canada was AMAZING.

As a Canadian I now have finally found out the truth of how we have been governed by outside influence since 1931.
I am closing my SIN # ASAP. A Free-Man on the Land was the information about the NWO in Canada that was missing from my understanding of the history of these Bankers and Industrial Military Complex in my country. No country is immune from the agenda of these men. I believe everyone needs to be drug free, government free, debt free, and brain washed free.

You need to think for yourself. If you take anyone's word for anything, then its only heresay.
Unless you do the work yourself you have no proof of all the heresay. You need to do the experience yourself to know the experience. No one can tell you what is real after that. Dead words of puppets and strawmen.
If you listen to others who act as critics and never listen to the music, well your in the dark.
If you think that Science is devoid of Art then your very much misinformed.

If you believe that all Intelligence can be spoken in words, then your missing the music.
The true beauty of creative influence is the power of the aether.
Creative influence of man is Art and Science.
Both are equally powerful.

To attempt to limit science and art to definitions is insane.
If you believe that then your more crazy then insane. Maybe both.
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by lizzie » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:58 pm

Birkeland said: Because people refuse to believe? Crackpots with religious mindsets grows like weed these days.
LOL. Stick stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm

Nothing is "real" except war, the most profitable of all ventures for the merchants of death. The "justifications" for waging war, of course, are as bogus as a three dollar bill. However, they do expect us to send our sons and daughters to fight and die for their wars don't they; Communists, capitalists -- just flip sides of the same coin -- all planned opposition; divide and conqueor. They keep us fighting among ourselves while they sit back and count their money and try not to laugh out loud.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:05 pm

Meanwhile, hows your savings plan holding out these days plasmatic?
Did you pull your money back in March when I did?
Or did you suffer the loss?
So far, near as I can tell I saved $5000 dollars in the last month by pulling my money in the spring.
My friend saved over $20,000 at my urging in the last month, after pulling in June and looking at his portfolio the other day.
:shock:
That conspiracy crap has saved me and my friend quite a bit of money.
Maybe I am crazy to believe it, but my stock broker last year thought I was nuts.
I told him March of last year that a crash was coming and my investments must not be american.
They were not any american stocks as it turned out in the first place. He said no crash would happen...Oh really?
That was still little comfort to me. I still stayed ahead of information from the conspiracy lines.
I decided that the crash would hit me no matter what. I also decided that it would be huge.
I took it out in March this year dispite his warnings I was being foolish, thinking since I had no USA companies that I had security. Looks like he was as smart as the rest of the bankers.
I however have had the last laugh so far and its about $5000 funny this month alone.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by lizzie » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:11 pm

Junglelord said: That conspiracy crap has saved me quite a bit of money.
LOL. That's the best laugh I have had today.

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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:18 pm

In this case laughing all the way away from the bank.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by Divinity » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:54 am

junglelord wrote: (snip)

If you believe that all Intelligence can be spoken in words, then your missing the music.
The true beauty of creative influence is the power of the aether.
Creative influence of man is Art and Science.
Both are equally powerful.

To attempt to limit science and art to definitions is insane.
If you believe that then your more crazy then insane. Maybe both.
(Strange how people are only just discovering the NWO Agenda and the stranglehold of financial control (etc.) the Powers That Be have had over the world population now, just as the whole house of cards is tumbling. I guess there will always be some who are in denial of this, however. :D ).

Meantime, you have hit on another revelation here, Junglelord:

To attempt to limit science and art to definitions is insane.

I've only recently grasped this myself. We all know there is (and should never be) any limitation placed in art, but in science, we have been so used to expecting results, proof, hard evidence, etc. I have never felt that mankind's mind has been so puny it could never possibly grasp all the secrets of reality/the Universe, BUT I am beginning to ponder, now, whether the details truly can be defined in words. When I read your words here, my knowingness tells me they are true but I do understand how others would have difficulty forming the pictures in their minds. I wonder how we get around this? Or indeed, if we will need to?

I liken this to the state of the Universe Itself. In an infinite and eternal universe, there was no beginning and there will be no end and there are no edges. Perhaps this is how science will evolve, in our minds, too. We are going to have to become much more lateral in our thinking.

A huge part of our evolution to the next level (mind expansion) will mean totally new ways of thinking. This could include placing no limits on science too as the findings will be beyond anything we currently comprehend unless we are like you, J/L. And perhaps, as we attain increasing telepathy between ourselves and the aether, words will becoming less important, i.e. an understanding will form between us about how reality is without the need for reports, approval, acceptance, intellect even.

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Re: What is Real?

Post by Plasmatic » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:05 am

Meanwhile, hows your savings plan holding out these days plasmatic?
Did you pull your money back in March when I did?
Or did you suffer the loss?
:lol: Amazing. You just go ahead and keep looking for something to fill that insecurity Jl. Stuffing strawmen in the hole in your ideas wont work chief !
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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:02 am

Hi Divinity!

The Revelation was late in coming but was sparked by the drummers forum I frequent.
This "swing" that we speak of, all that jazz, is not possible to produce via words.
It is a product of creation. It has no words. Words cannot actually reproduce a single moment of it.

Art and Science cannot be seperated. Therefore the boundries imposed by your mind do not exist in reality.
However the truth of boundies cannot be denied. The boundry of definition as being capable of quantifying any creation is beyond words. Fully insane to believe other wise.

Tree, leaves, branches, roots, earth, water, neutrients, chlorophyl, sunlight, Photosynethesis.

There is a full tree.

Yeah right.
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by Birkeland » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:20 am

junglelord wrote:That conspiracy crap has saved me and my friend quite a bit of money.
Well, if you in contrast had been studying free market economics, instead of religious nonsensical kumbayah, you could have earned some money. In any case: the ludicrous conspiracy blamegame of pure ignorance is priceless - keep it up.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by altonhare » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:57 am

Birkeland wrote:
junglelord wrote:That conspiracy crap has saved me and my friend quite a bit of money.
Well, if you in contrast had been studying free market economics, instead of religious nonsensical kumbayah, you could have earned some money. In any case: the ludicrous conspiracy blamegame of pure ignorance is priceless - keep it up.
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