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Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:38 pm

I came across this video - at 02:00 (look at the top of the screen) there seems to occur someting I don't understand: it looks like something is falling inwards... Very strange, and very fascinating.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by junglelord » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:51 pm

It looks like dark mode plasma falling into glow mode plasma.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:06 pm

junglelord wrote:It looks like dark mode plasma falling into glow mode plasma.
Ok, but I don't understand the difference between dark mode plasma and glow mode plasma. Do you mean space with relative negative energy? The term nothingness comes to mind, but since logic tells us that nothing can't exist there must be something? What is it? I don't understand.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Solar » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:35 pm

I remember that vid from a ways back. You're talking about the dark material? It seemed to become attracted to the electromagnetic activity of the solar prominence. If you look at the 'arcs" in glow mode; as the dark material streams towards them, the arcs become darker. Almost as if, 'dampening' the current density in the electric 'arcs'. Still a very interesting video today.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:05 pm

Solar wrote:I remember that vid from a ways back. You're talking about the dark material?
Yes.
It seemed to become attracted to the electromagnetic activity of the solar prominence.
Correct.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by nick c » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:35 pm

Hi Birkeland,
Awesome video. That is strange at 2:00, is it a dark filament? don't know.
Birkeland wrote:Ok, but I don't understand the difference between dark mode plasma and glow mode plasma.
From The Electric Sky by Donald E Scott:
Plasma has three operating modes-
1. Dark Current Mode: not visible to the human eye, present day ionospheres of the planets, the strength of the current is extremely low
2. Normal Glow Mode: significant current strength- auroras, emission nebula, comet tails, Sun's corona, I might add...a neon light
3. Arc Mode: very high current strength- electric welding machines, lightning, the Sun's photosphere, solar prominences, the spark that jumps from your finger tip to the door knob

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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by substance » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:54 pm

Very beautiful indeed! One of the most amazing phenomenons shot on real video. I`d say that the flare at 2.00 looked more like if it alone is becoming filamented or threaded. I don`t think the dark stuff is a real thing and being attracted to the flare. :roll:
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by junglelord » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:12 pm

The plasma is continuous. It is in dark mode.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by StefanR » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:30 am

I think this shows arcing quite well:

Sun Explosion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvb11bmE1vU
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:28 am

StefanR wrote:I think this shows arcing quite well:

Sun Explosion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvb11bmE1vU
Great! I'm trying to build a visual understanding of the electromagnetic duality in dimensional energy context. I don't know if this means anything to anyone on this forum, but if you look at energy as dimensional entities where it could change and "grow" inside three-dimensional space limits: Look at this visualization of four dimensional math (chapter 8). Add standing waves to the whole thing and...well, there you have all the ingredients I'm struggeling with right now. It's something there, but what is it? How does it all interconnect and function?
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:43 am

nick c wrote:From The Electric Sky by Donald E Scott:
Plasma has three operating modes-
1. Dark Current Mode: not visible to the human eye, present day ionospheres of the planets, the strength of the current is extremely low
2. Normal Glow Mode: significant current strength- auroras, emission nebula, comet tails, Sun's corona, I might add...a neon light
3. Arc Mode: very high current strength- electric welding machines, lightning, the Sun's photosphere, solar prominences, the spark that jumps from your finger tip to the door knob
Thanks for the clearification and the book reference!
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by junglelord » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:10 am

It interconnects via standing waves as you noted and fractals.
The numbers pi, phi, e, with a understanding of standing waves and platonic solids will reveal all.
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Re: Flares - strange phenomenon (video)

Post by Birkeland » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:57 am

junglelord wrote:It interconnects via standing waves as you noted and fractals.
The numbers pi, phi, e, with a understanding of standing waves and platonic solids will reveal all.
:D

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... f=8&t=1097
Interesting, but I'm more into the aristotelian tradition and inductive logic. Mathematics is, as far as I'm able to understand, flawed when it operates within wrong dimensional context. The link (visualization of four dimensional math (chapter 8)) illustrates and visualizes the mathematical fallacy that black holes rest on: mass can't be packet so tight that it falls into itself (four dimensional). Instead it will "squeeze" matter out at the nucleus' polar regions as the torus non equilibrium is forced to open and let go of the energy inside the nucleus. In other words: the energy changes form from a three dimensional spherical entity into a two dimensional linear entity. If one can understand this one could also understand how to extract the energy in the nucleus wthout forcing it open. I guess you could say one could trick it to open and reveal the goodies. How? It's driving me...not mad, but it's constantly on my mind. I have seen the Focus Fusion lecture by Lerner, but I'm not sure his approach is the right one.
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