Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

[starbiter]

This is an improved version of the series on sedimentology, first posted by Lloyd. It explains what i see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PVnBaqqQw8

The authors don't consider duning, or sloshing. If the descriptions from legend and myth are true, there would have been duning and sloshing, IMO.

Plasma physics provides the missing link, an external source of heat and pressure. What covers the surface of Earth is the end of the process. There has been very little change. !0,000 years on the long side, 2500 in the shortened version. Take your pick. That's enough time to crack rock with freezing water, but not much more.

michael

[venn]

timeframe:
- 01-02-2012 to 01-14-2012 (organized by Michael Steinbacher)

01-02-2012

target:
- investigate the area of blue color north of Searchlight visible on Google maps
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=3 ... src=6&z=13

participants:
- Michael Steinbacher
- Andreas Otte
- Curt Young

findings:
- the area of blue color could be verified as a blue/grayish rock of currently unknown substance that „flowed“ around gravel and smaller rocks. Samples were collected and will hopefully be analyzed in the near future.
- Google Maps seems to like the color and overemphasize it.

[seasmith]

coincidently
this came to my mailbox today, just down the road from Searchlight, the Mountain Pass Mine and rare-earth minerals.
(click on image for Big blowup)

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/v ... c=eoa-iotd



googlemap with both locations:

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=3 ... src=6&z=13


note apparent oceanic ingress and duning:

http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/im ... 007248.jpg

[venn]

timeframe:
- 01-02-2012 to 01-14-2012 (organized by Michael Steinbacher)

01-03-2012

target:
- Snow Canyon west of St. George
- Virgin Mesa
- Zion National Park

participants:
- Michael Steinbacher
- Andreas Otte
- Curt Young

findings:
- following I15 to the north a lot of slurry runoff, sometimes on top of each other
- “fresh” basalt layers on top of Snow Canyon mountains. Looks like the basalt was created in situ, there seems to be no way, the basalt areas in between the patches of basalt could erode away while leaving the other parts completely uneroded. The standard model of a lava flow seems to be implausible.




- The Mesa Road at Virgin Mesa was drivable to our surprise during this time of the year. At the top of the Mesa: bubbled and burned rock



- Typical for this area is basalt on top of the south/east facing mountains
- There seems to be a ca. 400 mile ring of basalt formations centered roughly around Four Corners. Could this be a point where the earth got zapped?
- Through a back entry we drove into Zion National Park and got as far north as Kolob Reservoir before the road became to bad and we had to turn around.

[starbiter]

The area South of Hoover Dam with the blue ring has a story to tell, IMHO.

http://g.co/maps/whr58

The blue color appears to be the center of a diocotron instability.

http://www.plasma-universe.com/Diocotron_instability

The blue area is composed of melted rock that is considered volcanic. I believe the rock was drawn in as air borne ions that eventually cooled into various types of rock.

The image below shows the Highland Bighorn area. It is the West side of the blue circle. The North

area of the Highland area seems to be the edge of the process. The North area is zapped, but not nearly as much as the area to the South.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 5&hl=en_US Please open image for detail and the ability to zoom in. The light area to the left of center is the beginning of the visible blue area.
I'm at the top of the map looking West.

http://g.co/maps/2678s

The image below is further South where the process was more intense.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... m&hl=en_US

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... w&hl=en_US

The image above shows the blue color clearly. The power cable towers provides scale.

The map below is looking West.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=35 ... 85,69.09,0


The map below looks North, showing a duning pattern. The Wind would have been from the West/left.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t=f&e ... 15&vpsrc=6

I doubt if magma bubbling up from below would create the layers shown in the maps.

Surrounding the blue area is a ring of basalt and andesite [thick iron rich magma]. More about the "volcanic ring" in the next post.

michael

[starbiter]

The ring of basalt and andesite that surrounds the blue ring goes from Hoover Dam/Boulder City in the North to Bullhead City in the South.

http://g.co/maps/yexcd

The map and image below are from the North edge of the ring. I'm looking ENE from just North of Boulder City. The red rock in the foreground is andesite and dacite, i'm told. The flat area covered in basalt in the background is Fortification Hill.

http://g.co/maps/72vzv please try satellite also.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 2&hl=en_US

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 1&hl=en_US

I'm staying on the top floor of the casino tower. Second window on the left.

The view is from the SW to the NE in the map below.

http://g.co/maps/wduma

The andesite looks very melted, and has trending similar to a dune.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 2&hl=en_US



On the South side, just West of Searchlight the ring crosses a mountain ridge. The ridge turned into pinnacles from the heat. I'm on highway 164, 8 miles West of searchlight, looking South. The pinnacles are from Vanderbilt to the East for about 5 miles.

http://g.co/maps/65krg

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 2&hl=en_US

The area on the left side of the image below is East of Hart on the map above. Zapped, but not as much as the pinnacles.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... l&hl=en_US

The image below is from just South of Vanderbolt, standing on the road looking East. The area has the trending of a dune, but has been zapped.

http://g.co/maps/pjpsf

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 1&hl=en_US

On the outside of this circle is an area that has the sides of the mountains removed. This will be the subject of the next post

michael

[starbiter]

Beyond the circle of basalt and andesite is a ring of mountains with missing sides. Electrons would seem like the most likely culprit. Moving electrons would produce a current, one would think. The photograph below shows removal of material on the right side of the image, but not the left.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 4&hl=en_US

I'm looking due West from Primm. The dirt road visible on the map is visible on the photograph.

http://g.co/maps/ncgwj

The tighter shot below shows the power of the electric erosion process, IMHO.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 4&hl=en_US

From Roach on the South part of the map below to Calico Basin in the North, the sides of the mountains facing the blue ring are missing. The pattern seems to continue. I'll be looking at the area for the foreseeable future.

http://g.co/maps/yfqgh

The electron spin seems to be clockwise. The ion spin appears to be counterclockwise, at least to my eyes. This is the opposite of the description from Dr Peratt on the directions inside a diocotron instability.

michael

[Kapriel]

[...]
- The Mesa Road at Virgin Mesa was drivable to our surprise during this time of the year. At the top of the Mesa: bubbled and burned rock
[...]

Hi Andreas,
Frequently the black stain on rocks seen in that region consist of iron, manganese and silica (aka "desert varnish"), could this picture possibly show desert varnish rather than burnt rock?

[venn]

Hi Andreas,
Frequently the black stain on rocks seen in that region consist of iron, manganese and silica (aka "desert varnish"), could this picture possibly show desert varnish rather than burnt rock?

Hi Kim,

I'm open to the typical desert varnish explanation, but the EU puts much more potent tools into the geologists toolbox. The standard explanation by now seems unlikely to me. Those black areas are consistently to be found where you would expect them through electrical charring which could also account for the higher manganese / iron content of the affected area.

[Kapriel]

Though I know you're right that the EU Theory opens up a whole new world of possibilities, I'm not clear as to why rock would turn black. For instance, when fireplace-brick turns black it's because of the residue left from the firewood, not from the rock itself.

Perhaps certain elements within rock will become liberated or changed when super-heated. But again, would the rock become black? I guess it would depend on the chemistry of the rock. Did Colorado-Mike's rock become blackened? I can't speak for that experiment because I didn't see the samples prior to treatment in the plasma oven.

And although I really *like* the idea, I am also not clear how Marklund Convection could separate iron, manganese and silica out of sand and then micro-laminate them back onto the sandstone. I don't know enough about Marklund Convection to be able to say with confidence that this could happen. I'd thought it applied only to an elemental separation in a near-vacuum. Do we have studies we can look at that describe what happens in a terrestrial environment with heavier particles? I'd be very interested in seeing more detail on that process, scarcely anything publicly accessible has been written about Marklund Convection.

[starbiter]

Hello Kim: I've heated rocks with kilns, torches (including plasma) and zapping by electric arc, and each time the rock became darkened like desert varnish. Some of the time there were bubbles, similar to what I see in the field. My laptop just died so posting images is a problem.

duney

[larryduane100]

Coming back to Sacramento via the infamous Death Valley after the conference I saw blackening that has me convinced of electrical heating. I saw large areas of 'basalt' boulders piled high yet when the road dipped down so that I could see up under them, they were as red as the surrounding desert. In other places I saw the same thing with white rocks-black like lava on the top, white underneath. I stopped and turned some rocks over to see for myself that what I was seeing held true up close. Something hot passed over the area and burned the tops of rocks in selected(sorted?) areas.
Larry

[starbiter]

Thanks Larry: The picture You describe has become obvious in every canyon I drive up. It appears a river of fire (plasma) flowed UP the canyons. As the canyon narrows the current density seems to increase. The charring and melting and bubbling increase. This effect can be predicted. As You describe, the electrical heating is obviously external .

Death Valley was zapped greatly. The mountains are high grade metamorphic. That equals a large zap.

michael

[venn]

Before continuing with the reports of the expedition days I want to give a general remark: What is probably not coming through with the previous reports is the sense of discovery we all had when looking at geological formations in a different way for the first time. It was fun discussing what we saw, seeing others having unique thoughts and having one or two yourself. I'm looking forward to doing this again soon.

So, if you are currently near Las Vegas, think about spending some gas money and drive around the area with Michael to experience what we experienced.

[Goldminer]

Before continuing with the reports of the expedition days I want to give a general remark: What is probably not coming through with the previous reports is the sense of discovery we all had when looking at geological formations in a different way for the first time. It was fun discussing what we saw, seeing others having unique thoughts and having one or two yourself. I'm looking forward to doing this again soon.

So, if you are currently near Las Vegas, think about spending some gas money and drive around the area with Michael to experience what we experienced.

I second that times ten! The chance to meet and get to know Starbiter, aka Duney is a high point in my play book! Not to diminish the rest of the crew. The world is beautiful, but traveling with these folks is/was fantastic. The Tram ride was another high point, needless to say . . . And all on an unbelievably low budget!