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Re: Heating as a parallel effect rather than a cause?

Unread postby Osmosis » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:35 pm

I mentioned in a previous post (before the latest dark energy release), my thoughts along the same lines. A hurricane is effectively an electrical generator. The spin of the somewhat conductive clouds in earth's field may help in resistive heating, along with the warm water heating. :mrgreen:
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The Coming Little Ice Age

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Re: The Coming Little Ice Age

Unread postby redeye » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:01 am

In England, the harvest has been delayed by the unusually cool temperatures, while sales of thermal underwear have skyrocketed.


We've had an alright summer in Scotland. Just a bit rainy in august thats all. The sales of thermals are probably more to do with pensioners anticipating the increase in gas and electricity prices.

We used to get our first frost around October and by November the winter would have fully set in - right through to April the following year. Last year we had our first frost in February and it was incredibly mild all winter. The year before that was bitterly cold. If anything our winters have become shorter and milder over the last 15 years, whilst our summers have been completely random, cold and wet one year, sunny and dry the next.

Summer is always dodgy in Britain but I can't remember reading about flash floods and tornadoes this year. I'm north of the border though, perhaps Grey cloud could give a better picture of climate change in England.
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Re: Heating as a parallel effect rather than a cause?

Unread postby StevenO » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:49 pm

Heat and electric charge are very similar particle motions and often show up together.
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Re: The Coming Little Ice Age

Unread postby junglelord » Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:21 am

Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century
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Global Warming does another DOH (8(/)

Unread postby Tzunamii » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:26 am

S Africa faces 'winter wonderland'; snow, coldest September temps in recorded history...
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Re: Global Warming does another DOH (8(/)

Unread postby MGmirkin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:24 am

Not "conclusive" by any stretch. But amusing anyway.

Wonder when the sunspots will come back... ;)

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Re: Global Warming does another DOH (8(/)

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:40 pm

MGmirkin wrote:Not "conclusive" by any stretch. But amusing anyway.

Wonder when the sunspots will come back... ;)

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I seem to recall NASA predicting sunspot maximum for 2012 and that it would be a high one. There again, someone has posted something about a NASA press conference stating that the solar wind is at a 50 year low. :roll:
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Re: Global Warming does another DOH (8(/)

Unread postby redeye » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:59 am

I seem to recall NASA predicting sunspot maximum for 2012 and that it would be a high one. There again, someone has posted something about a NASA press conference stating that the solar wind is at a 50 year low.


I'd been wondering about this (I knew about the sunspots but wasn't sure if there would be an effect on the "Solar Wind"). The last couple of Mars missions experienced no loss of signal, due to the build up of a plasma sheaf, whilst landing on Mars. Could this be due to a reduced voltage bridge between interplanetary space and the surface of Mars due to a reduction in power to the heliospheric current sheet?

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Re: Global Warming does another DOH (8(/)

Unread postby webolife » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:46 pm

Looks like the sunspots are coming back:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080924.html
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The world has never seen such freezing heat

Unread postby Tzunamii » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:02 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do1610.xml

A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.


A sudden cold snap brought snow to London in October.
This was startling.
Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China's official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its "worst snowstorm ever". In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.


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Re: The world has never seen such freezing heat

Unread postby MGmirkin » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:34 pm

You missed the best part!

(The world has never seen such freezing heat)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do1610.xml

So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.

The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs - run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious "hockey stick" graph - GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year.

A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. This is an astonishing admission: the figures published by Dr Hansen's institute are not only one of the four data sets that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) relies on to promote its case for global warming, but they are the most widely quoted, since they consistently show higher temperatures than the others.


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Re: The world has never seen such freezing heat

Unread postby MGmirkin » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:47 pm

Then of course there's the other articles probably contradicting AGW (anthropogenic global warming):

(Lord Nelson and Captain Cook's shiplogs question climate change theories)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2496902 ... ories.html

The ships' logs of great maritime figures such as Lord Nelson and Captain Cook have cast new light on climate change by suggesting that global warming may not be an entirely man-made phenomenon.

[...]

The records also suggest that Europe saw a spell of rapid warming, similar to that experienced today, during the 1730s that must have been caused naturally.


(MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data)
http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content ... 3-113.html

Boston (MA) - Scientists at MIT have recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels. This is the first increase in ten years, and what baffles science is that this data contradicts theories stating man is the primary source of increase for this greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. However, since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, it is now believed this may be part of a natural cycle in mother nature - and not the direct result of man's contributions.


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Re: The world has never seen such freezing heat

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:10 pm

Climate scientists allied with the IPCC have been caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, a shocking example of mass public deception that could spell the beginning of the end for the acceptance of man-made climate change theories.

On Monday, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

“This was startling,” reports the London Telegraph. “Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.”

It soon came to light that the data produced by NASA to make the claim, and in particular temperature records covering large areas of Russia, was merely carried over from the previous month. NASA had used temperature records from the naturally hotter month of September and claimed they represented temperature figures in October.

When NASA was confronted with this glaring error, they then attempted to compensate for the lower temperatures in Russia by claiming they had discovered a new “hotspot” in the Arctic, despite satellite imagery clearly showing that Arctic sea ice had massively expanded its coverage by 30 per cent, an area the size of Germany, since summer 2007.

The figures published by Dr Hansen’s institute are one of the primary sets of data used by the IPCC to promote its case for man-made global warming and they are widely quoted because they consistently show higher temperatures than other figures.

“Yet last week’s latest episode is far from the first time Dr Hansen’s methodology has been called in question,” reports the Telegraph. “In 2007 he was forced by Mr Watts and Mr McIntyre to revise his published figures for US surface temperatures, to show that the hottest decade of the 20th century was not the 1990s, as he had claimed, but the 1930s.”

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC and a close ally of Hansen, also raised eyebrows recently during a presentation in Australia, during which he claimed that global temperatures have recently been rising “very much faster” than ever as he cited a graph showing purported temperature increases over the last decade. In fact, as even the vast majority of man-made global warming advocates will concede, temperatures since 1998 have moved sideways and over the last 18 months they have clearly begun a downward trend.

Whether such “mistakes” are made in genuine error or are part of a politicized push for man-made global warming to be universally accepted, and the evidence clearly suggests that latter is the case, the fact is that we can no longer tolerate the cry that “the debate is over” on man-made global warming in light of such gargantuan falsehoods.

Likewise, the push for carbon emissions to be reduced by 80 per cent or more, a figure that would completely cripple western economies and lower living standards to a near third world level, can no longer be accepted as a reasonable course of action now that the primary authority on man-made global warming, the UN IPCC, has been proven to be using fraudulent data to make its case.

Foisted upon the public by means of giant multi-million dollar PR campaigns and brainwashing mandates that have worked themselves into every sector of society, including education, movies, television the arts and culture, all the attention and funding is being lavished upon a manufactured hoax, peddled with the aid of phony data, as governments prepare to suck what’s left out of the middle class and poor with carbon taxes that do nothing to help the environment, while all the real environmental problems are left in the shadows.

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Re: The world has never seen such freezing heat

Unread postby MGmirkin » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:10 pm

(Is "Global Warming" the Result of Fudged Numbers?)
http://my.nowpublic.com/environment/glo ... ed-numbers

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