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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:20 pm

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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Michael Anteski » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:42 am

The moon is blocking gravitaional forces from further out in space when it's directly above the tidal region. Therefore, gravitational forces from outer space exceed those of the moon with respect to earth. (N.B., it's established that the Sun's effect on tides is negligible compared to the moon's.)
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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Solar » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:44 pm

"Our laws of force tend to be applied in the Newtonian sense in that for every action there is an equal reaction, and yet, in the real world, where many-body gravitational effects or electrodynamic actions prevail, we do not have every action paired with an equal reaction." — Harold Aspden
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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Solar » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:12 am

ughhh..

Apologies for the linkfest. I didn't mean to post all of them.
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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Michael Anteski » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:23 am

In all the "linkfest" ensuing after my reply that the moon blocks outer spatial gravity forces, to account for the observation about tides being lower when the moon is in the above position, I didn't see any responses that addressed the question directly. Does anyone else have commentary bearing directly on the observation in question? It has to be noted that the official theory of gravity is Einsteinian curvature of space time. My counter proposal would be that gravity is basically the same force as electromagnetism, with gravity's electro- component being under-fired compared to electromagnetism's because of their different space-distance factors. To address the "moon overhead/tide height" question meaningfully, one would have to bring in a theory of gravity.
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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby Michael Anteski » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:33 am

If part of the explanation is that the moon is blocking gravitational forces from outer space and the effect is asymmetrical with respect to sides of the earth, the true full explanation could be that the forces from outer space are not symmetric, one side of the earth compared to the other side.
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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby johnm33 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:00 pm

I'm not making any claims for this http://www.cartesio-episteme.net/ep8/tidalforce.pdf but it's worth a look. Its from this http://www.cartesio-episteme.net/ep8/FDTombe.htm archive.
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Re: Tides on tides off

Unread postby CharlesChandler » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:48 pm

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