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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Joe Keenan » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:21 am

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby ElecGeekMom » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:52 am

Here's a dumb question: Is it possible that water vapor could have been part of the exhaust that was present as the probe touched down?
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:07 pm

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Ben D » Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:25 pm

It is difficult to understand why anyone would doubt that there is water on mars,...it seems water is ubiquitous,...comets, planets, moons, etc..

How many of you would have considered that there would be water in Mercury's atmosphere?

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

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Re: Martian Water "flowing"?

Unread postby Solar » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:51 am

Remember this Michael?

This subject reminds me of a debate that was had some while back in the old forum regarding water on Mars.

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The above photo was taken from early HiRise releases and I zoomed and cropped this section from a larger area with the same pattern continuosly over a longer sloping region at the Martian south pole. It seems to show a 'flowing' downhill dynamic.

I've checked at HiRise and can no longer find it? Do you still have the original image or link @ HiRise Michael?

My contention at that time was that this was not 'muddy' H2O running downhill but sublimation along the lowest, therefore most shallow and less dense, portions between the 'groves' as a result of the Martian spring. This revealed the same blackend iron rich soil that is normally seen to blow and generate 'geyser-like' dust fans. But no such blowing appears to have occured in the photo. Interesting nonetheless.
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby moses » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:37 pm

My contention at that time was that this was not 'muddy' H2O running downhill but sublimation along the lowest, therefore most shallow and less dense, portions between the 'groves' as a result of the Martian spring. This revealed the same blackend iron rich soil that is normally seen to blow and generate 'geyser-like' dust fans. But no such blowing appears to have occured in the photo. Interesting nonetheless. Solar
Would you care to explain this again ? Is it water sublimating or CO2 ?
The black area seems to have warmed wrt the white area, as one would
expect, and turned somewhat liquid. But I don't understand exactly what
you are saying.
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Solar » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:58 am

"Our laws of force tend to be applied in the Newtonian sense in that for every action there is an equal reaction, and yet, in the real world, where many-body gravitational effects or electrodynamic actions prevail, we do not have every action paired with an equal reaction." — Harold Aspden
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Solar » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:26 am

"Our laws of force tend to be applied in the Newtonian sense in that for every action there is an equal reaction, and yet, in the real world, where many-body gravitational effects or electrodynamic actions prevail, we do not have every action paired with an equal reaction." — Harold Aspden
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby Solar » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:04 am

Here is another montage of dune ridges from a second "":

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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:06 am

Re: Translucent ice images.
Dendrites on one side of the ridge, with diffuse 'shadows' on the other side. Simply shows the direction of the plasma flows to me.
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Re: "No signs of water yet from Mars lander"

Unread postby moses » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:11 pm

Am I right : The ridges were electrically formed and so there
is a sharp drop with grooves on one side of the ridge. Presumably
the CO2 has sublimated from many of these grooves, making it
appear that the balck substance at the top of the ridge has
liquified and run down the grooves.
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