dahlenaz wrote:Here are some more details to consider. First off do we know for sure that the object stopped over russia?
Look at how fast it was going and how high it appears while going out of sight based on the video
from this angle.
See the third fragment pointed out in the image at this link;
justcurious wrote:The explosive sound and blowing out of windows occurs many seconds after the flashes of light.
justcurious wrote:There is one problem with your theory of an EMP explosion (and no shock wave).
justcurious wrote:Would you mind elaborating on "somehow converted back to mechanical energy near the observer"?
justcurious wrote:Do you mean that the meteor has one charge (for example negative) and the ionized air around it has another, or is it charge separation within the meteor itself being caused by some sort of induction?
Wikipedia wrote:As the aircraft increases speed the shock cone gets tighter around the craft and becomes weaker to the point that at very high speeds and altitudes no boom is heard.
justcurious wrote:Perhaps the meteor flying at supersonic speeds can create a sonic boom, however common sense tells me that it had something to do with the 20X Hiroshima explosion(s).
Published on Feb 21, 2013
The recent explosion of a large meteor over Russia caused hundreds of injuries and considerable damage to local buildings—the most destructive such event in more than 100 years. The explosion has also raised new questions pointing directly to the behavior of large meteors in the Electric Universe.
Here is a simple experiment by a member of the Thunderbolts group, relating to the APPEARANCE of material ejected in the forward direction at 6:22 in this presentation:
The experiment demonstrates some interesting optical effects of scratches on a transparent surface such as a windshield. A good reason to avoid shouting more exotic speculations as fact, something that has already occurred in Internet comments on the video segment. All fact-based interpretations of the clip, however, will be welcome.
For a relevant Thunderbolts Picture of the Day, see The Peekski
Sparky wrote:Just because you can not see a "trail" does not mean that there is none. It may have gone into dark mode. What disappointed me was not seeing an arc. Maybe there was one in the biggest flash. But most of the electrical discharge was in glow mode.
Yes, there is some lens flaring, but the ground fog moving up to meet the downward discharge, then obscuring objects after the discharge subsides, appears to be part of the electrical event.
If the only way you look at these videos is to pause, then you will miss a great deal of activity. Get an editor and stretch the timeline, to see the "boiling" action of the coma.
justcurious wrote:In your writeup you suggest that the shockwave is due to an EMP (electromagnetic explosion).
CharlesChandler wrote:The sonic boom travels at the speed of sound. [...] On my webpage, when I'm talking about "popping" sounds that are coincident with the break-up of the meteor, that's a whole different phenomenon. [...] There is a sonic boom, but long before that hits, and coincident with the break-up of the meteor, people have heard much quieter sounds -- little crackling noises. [...] But I didn't see any reports of this phenomenon in Chelyabinsk.
justcurious wrote:The theory goes like this, there is an EMP explosion which sends out EM waves, which upon reaching the observer transform themselves to mechanical energy and become audible and break stuff.
justcurious wrote:I stated that the bang occurs after the explosive flash and hence the theory has a problem (since there is a delay between the flash and the bang, like in lightning).
justcurious wrote:I really can't imagine how EM waves would transform themselves into mechanical waves just before reaching doors and windows to blast them out.
justcurious wrote:The other options? The sonic boom.
justcurious wrote:Another option is that the meteor simply exploded and caused a shockwave, just like TNT or any other explosive.
justcurious wrote:Another option might have to do with a z-pinch effect. If the meteor is a rapidly moving charge, it should create a magnetic field around it according to the right hand rule, which could squeeze the ionized air (or charges released by the meteor) around the meteor, once the meteor discharges, the magnetic field would vanish and release all that mechanical tension (z-pinch effect), this is my own quack speculation amongst others. But maybe not that crazy as we can see in the sky clearly two smoke trails at the area of most intense activity (remnants of a Birkeland current pair?).
Web said: I am wondering about the statement that a sonic boom cannot cause the kind of damage seen in the Russian event... isn't it just a matter of degrees of magnitude between the level of a sonic boom and the type of sonic shock wave we witnessed via video?
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