I hope I am not misquoting or misunderstanding Junglelord but I was there witnessing his amazing revelations the night he 'discovered' non-material structures (and structure/function) and shared that information here, on-line. I was so excited by his discoveries, I watched every word he wrote and believe his theory that (I put this very simplistically) creation starts from a non-material structure, from there the energy/information transforms that into a vortex, then into a geometric shape and unique atomic structure. This scales up or down, whatever the size, purpose or information being 'fed' into that creation.
GC I never claimed the originators of the EU shared my thoughts or have ever intimated it was as important as I believe it to be. They are very careful with their claims and I respect their role to make the theory acceptable to their peers. All I am doing, which you consider arrogant, is sharing my belief about the future importance of it to all aspects of our culture. From Lizzie's posts, I believe we both share the vision of a glorious future for mankind and the EU theory lies at the core of that vision. I appreciate that some will see this as delusional wishful thinking. But every dream has to start from a thought or desire (or a non-material structure
Presently, we have 54% of the population who are Christians or Muslims and another 16% who are atheists. http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
The remainder may believe in a living Universe but has it helped them? i.e. is their world a better place? For sure, Christian Scientists DO seem to benefit from their religion because they know the mind-body-spirit is connected and their thoughts about themselves affect them directly. I am not so sure about other religions' practical applications for the betterment of mankind, are you?
I am sorry if you believe I'm generally off-topic but the main point of my post above is to highlight the suppression of humanity by an elite sector who have managed to maintain the status quo right across the board. How else do you explain the retarded development of our global society? And how else are we to evolve unless we first see things as they are and then correct them?
With regard to the origin of the Universe, if it's Eternal, there can be no origin or end.
LOL! It's ok..no need to comment on that but I'd be interested to see what the originators of the APM or EU theories believe.
I will address your issues, GC, separately later. Thanks.